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Should be massive disincentives on factory farming and BS classifications that if they open a window the meat is now "free range" etc.
Of course this hits the poorest the hardest though, but the system of production and culture of lean cuts in plastic wrap and not eating the whole animal needs changing.
The drive has to come from an angle where people eat less meat because they believe it's good for them on a personal level; their own health, pocket etc.
Generally speaking we're pretty selfish and even when we do believe in something we tend to leave it to others to do the good bits on our behalf.
If we think there's something in it for us we're more likely to comply.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:32 - Aug 16 with 1493 views
Yep. Beef especially and dairy farming are ridiculously wasteful. Local or organic makes no real difference in terms of the amount of water and energy cattle need.
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Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:48 - Aug 16 with 1401 views
Switched to a vegetarian diet two years ago and feel much better physically and mentally. Even if it’s one/two non-meat meals a week, it’s still better than nothing.
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Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:50 - Aug 16 with 1381 views
Homo Sapiens evolved from primates with 400cc brains to where we are today by eating meat. If we all become vegan, in a generation we will all be monkeys again.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:50 - Aug 16 by LegendofthePhoenix
Homo Sapiens evolved from primates with 400cc brains to where we are today by eating meat. If we all become vegan, in a generation we will all be monkeys again.
...some are closer than others already it would appear.
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Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:56 - Aug 16 with 1349 views
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:50 - Aug 16 by LegendofthePhoenix
Homo Sapiens evolved from primates with 400cc brains to where we are today by eating meat. If we all become vegan, in a generation we will all be monkeys again.
That idea has been challenged pretty convincingly.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:32 - Aug 16 by Darth_Koont
Yep. Beef especially and dairy farming are ridiculously wasteful. Local or organic makes no real difference in terms of the amount of water and energy cattle need.
Would agree with that, not all meat is born equal innit.
I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've eaten beef, pork or lamb in the past 3 years. I have meat or fish 2 or 3 times per week and when I do it's either got 2 legs or none. It's a very hard thing to cut out completely, but not a hard thing to cut down significantly IMO, or make more sensible choices.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:03 - Aug 16 by clive_baker
Would agree with that, not all meat is born equal innit.
I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've eaten beef, pork or lamb in the past 3 years. I have meat or fish 2 or 3 times per week and when I do it's either got 2 legs or none. It's a very hard thing to cut out completely, but not a hard thing to cut down significantly IMO, or make more sensible choices.
I'm not quite there right now, but definitely cut down on them and especially the worst offenders.
We did try doing vegan once but with my partner being celiac it does offer a fairly boring diet outside of just repeating meals constantly.
Everyone just needs to reduce and get over themselves when it comes to things like tofu, chickpeas etc.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:07 - Aug 16 by J2BLUE
I am yet to brave tofu.
I mean you can do quite a bit with it. We've put it in soups (silken stuff) and that works pretty well.
The really firm stuff is great with a bit of prep, can get it really crispy and it soaks up flavour really well so good as a chicken substitute for things like wraps.
Here is a decent starting point for the chicken stuff
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:10 - Aug 16 by DanTheMan
I mean you can do quite a bit with it. We've put it in soups (silken stuff) and that works pretty well.
The really firm stuff is great with a bit of prep, can get it really crispy and it soaks up flavour really well so good as a chicken substitute for things like wraps.
Here is a decent starting point for the chicken stuff
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:07 - Aug 16 by DanTheMan
I'm not quite there right now, but definitely cut down on them and especially the worst offenders.
We did try doing vegan once but with my partner being celiac it does offer a fairly boring diet outside of just repeating meals constantly.
Everyone just needs to reduce and get over themselves when it comes to things like tofu, chickpeas etc.
That's good that you've cut down, and yes people do have dietry considerations which make things harder. I went fully Vegan for a year about a decade ago and it was hard. Probably easier now given there's more choice, but the thing about veganism is it's a lifestyle choice that is way broader than diet, and requires some thought. Like shopping for a belt or shoes needs thought.
A plant based diet is easier, and vegetarianism is easier still as you're not limiting dairy. We all know if there's meat in something or not, it's a very easy thing to do for the most part. I personally think we shouldn't let perfection become the enemy of progress, if people can cut down thats a very good start. We don't all need to be vegan tomorrow.
There's also a cost benefit. So many dishes really dont miss the meat and are significantly cheaper to make.
The way prices are going think we will all be forced into being vegetarian, which isn't a bad thing per se, prices will dictate how people will shop and currently meat is one of the most expensive things in the trolley.
Personally I'd like to think people can have the choice, rather than get vegetarianism rammed down their throat like a Jehovah witness on steriods.
A more, reasoned, calmer debate is needed, educate people on why it's not just about poor old larry the lamb that is being sacrificed for your enjoyment, that mankind as a species is going to face climate Armageddon if we all don't start changing our ways.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:13 - Aug 16 by clive_baker
That's good that you've cut down, and yes people do have dietry considerations which make things harder. I went fully Vegan for a year about a decade ago and it was hard. Probably easier now given there's more choice, but the thing about veganism is it's a lifestyle choice that is way broader than diet, and requires some thought. Like shopping for a belt or shoes needs thought.
A plant based diet is easier, and vegetarianism is easier still as you're not limiting dairy. We all know if there's meat in something or not, it's a very easy thing to do for the most part. I personally think we shouldn't let perfection become the enemy of progress, if people can cut down thats a very good start. We don't all need to be vegan tomorrow.
There's also a cost benefit. So many dishes really dont miss the meat and are significantly cheaper to make.
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I definitely think encouraging people not to jump straight to vegan (unless they want to of course, all power to them) but to just cut down.
I think once people introduce meals without meat it doesn't become so daunting and they realise it can be just as good. Honestly you usually just need to use a bit more fat / salt to make things taste banging.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:28 - Aug 16 by Mullet
Should be massive disincentives on factory farming and BS classifications that if they open a window the meat is now "free range" etc.
Of course this hits the poorest the hardest though, but the system of production and culture of lean cuts in plastic wrap and not eating the whole animal needs changing.
Still in massive denial and living in an alternative reality then I see...
Having spent the last few days near a beach I can confirm that in 95% of cases general intake of everything needs to be reduced considerably. It is depressing.
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Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:38 - Aug 16 with 1093 views
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 15:50 - Aug 16 by LegendofthePhoenix
Homo Sapiens evolved from primates with 400cc brains to where we are today by eating meat. If we all become vegan, in a generation we will all be monkeys again.
That is a total bullocks, but it would be a damn sight better for the world if it was true!
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:50 - Aug 16 by NthQldITFC
That is a total bullocks, but it would be a damn sight better for the world if it was true!
I'm just waiting for someone (probably from the US of A) to propose "meat trading" in the same way they do carbon trading. You just know it will happen.
Meat intake needs to be reduced to avoid climate disaster.... on 16:10 - Aug 16 by DanTheMan
I mean you can do quite a bit with it. We've put it in soups (silken stuff) and that works pretty well.
The really firm stuff is great with a bit of prep, can get it really crispy and it soaks up flavour really well so good as a chicken substitute for things like wraps.
Here is a decent starting point for the chicken stuff
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Not a fan of Tofu, tends to be too much like flavourless scrambled egg when I've had it, but i haven't tried this method. However i tried tempeh yesterday for the first time in a thai green curry and was much more impressed with it. May just stick with that whilst i'm cutting down on my meat intake
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