| National Lottery 15:28 - Oct 19 with 4935 views | catch74 |
When it was introduced, think we were all told we’d personally know a big winner within 5 years or something along those lines. What’s the most anyone has personally won and the most anyone they directly know has won?
I’m £200 on a scratch card and a friend won £25000 on a scratch card (don’t know of anyone else that’s won anything near that though.) I don’t know anyone that has won more than £100 on the lottery.
It’s ridiculously low odds and obviously barely worth doing but money from it has been put towards some great causes.
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| National Lottery on 17:14 - Oct 19 with 2072 views | JakeITFC |
| National Lottery on 17:09 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
Would it not make more sense to play the same numbers every week, rather than a different set each time?
Yes, it's small margins given the astronomical odds, but I would have thought that, based on even probability, your best bet is to stick with the same set? |
They don't throw the old numbers out after every draw. |  | | |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 with 2055 views | Zx1988 |
| National Lottery on 17:14 - Oct 19 by JakeITFC |
They don't throw the old numbers out after every draw. |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |  |
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| National Lottery on 17:25 - Oct 19 with 2040 views | Bugs |
The most I have won is about £30, I think.
I know someone in our village who has won £4 million on a £10 scratch card. |  | | |
| National Lottery on 17:31 - Oct 19 with 2026 views | Bugs |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |
Just because a set of numbers have come out, doesn't mean they wont again. So the odds never diminish having the same numbers every week.
Also 1,2,3,4,5,6 is just as likely to come out as your chosen numbers that you have every week. | | | |
| National Lottery on 17:33 - Oct 19 with 2020 views | factual_blue |
| National Lottery on 16:13 - Oct 19 by SitfcB |
An idiot tax more like 
Especially if you do the same set numbers. |
It doesn't make any difference if you do the same set of numbers every week or not. |  |
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| National Lottery on 17:36 - Oct 19 with 2018 views | factual_blue |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |
The balls have no memory. It's entirely random every time.
Whilst hard to grasp, probability theory would in fact tell you that it's possible the same balls could have been drawn every week for the last 29 years (we lost 2-1 at home to Blackburn on the day of the first draw). | |
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| National Lottery on 17:43 - Oct 19 with 2000 views | factual_blue |
| National Lottery on 17:31 - Oct 19 by Bugs |
Just because a set of numbers have come out, doesn't mean they wont again. So the odds never diminish having the same numbers every week.
Also 1,2,3,4,5,6 is just as likely to come out as your chosen numbers that you have every week. |
I think the calculation of the odds of winning is
https://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Lotto-Odds | |
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| National Lottery on 22:18 - Oct 19 with 1922 views | SitfcB |
| National Lottery on 17:09 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
Would it not make more sense to play the same numbers every week, rather than a different set each time?
Yes, it's small margins given the astronomical odds, but I would have thought that, based on even probability, your best bet is to stick with the same set? |
I stick to the same sets of numbers for each draw, that’s why I said it  |  |
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| National Lottery on 22:22 - Oct 19 with 1919 views | jeera |
| National Lottery on 22:18 - Oct 19 by SitfcB |
I stick to the same sets of numbers for each draw, that’s why I said it |
That's the problem isn't it.
Either you stick with placing those numbers each week or spend the rest of your life avoiding the results at all cost. |  |
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| National Lottery on 22:29 - Oct 19 with 1913 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| National Lottery on 15:54 - Oct 19 by Blue_Order |
When I was a kid I went to a childminders house before school. The childminders husband turned an old tumble dryer in the garden into a ‘lottery machine’ (he named it Hilda)… drew the numbered (ping pong) balls out and then went and put those numbers on.
It was either the first or second time he did it… won £1.2m. |
Blatant money laundering. | | | |
| National Lottery on 22:30 - Oct 19 with 1910 views | jeera |
| National Lottery on 22:29 - Oct 19 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Blatant money laundering. |
Ouch.
Upped for the unashamed audacity. | |
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| National Lottery on 22:31 - Oct 19 with 1909 views | TheBoyBlue |
Our family got the very first two numbers that ever got drawn and we thought "gosh, this is easy." Needless to say we didn't get any more.
Got 4 numbers once. 2 away from £30m, but got £32. Had the same numbers every week for years but that's the most I got and I don't know anyone who has done much better. Gave up years ago. | |
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| National Lottery on 23:37 - Oct 19 with 1871 views | GavTWTD |
I won £20k about 5 years ago. It was when they changed from £1 to £2 and I won that in their raffle. |  |
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| National Lottery on 00:13 - Oct 20 with 1854 views | textbackup |
my mum had a share of £80k back in about 2004, and a good mate won £1m on the millionaire code thing about 7/8 years back |  |
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| National Lottery on 00:41 - Oct 20 with 1829 views | The_Romford_Blue |
The actual value in terms of prizes and odds in the lottery is actually extraordinarily bad. Obviously the value in terms of percentage for football accumulators are the worst for sports betting of any kind (because every match is at 110% overround approximately rather than 100% fixed prices so combining 10 matches at that means your price is so much shorter than the true odds). But the lottery itself is even worse for actual true value. |  |
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| National Lottery on 01:24 - Oct 20 with 1821 views | MalcolmMeatballHead |
| National Lottery on 15:57 - Oct 19 by unbelievablue |
A classmate's Dad won 64k on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
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Are your friends initials DS? |  | | |
| National Lottery on 01:30 - Oct 20 with 1820 views | MalcolmMeatballHead |
About 9 years ago I won 2 million on the lottery, a few weeks later I done a £2 accumulator and won 1 million.
On top of that my wife won 500k on a gameshow last year and on the same day I won 300k at Ascot from a 50p bet
I know some will think I'm lying but it's honestly the truth [Post edited 20 Oct 2022 1:41]
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| National Lottery on 01:36 - Oct 20 with 1817 views | ClareBlue |
I think these posts are exactly why the lottery works
Any number sequence has exactly the same probability
Probability never changes because of any previous result
balls are not hot or cold
The payout does not reflect your chance, but people do it based on a payout is life changing, so you accept that you do not get the roper reward if you do get lucky because you have done well anyway.
And in Orwell's 1984 he wrote about this. They had a lottery for the working class where the news reported huge winners every week. The problem was nobody ever knew a winner but always said they would be next. It gave them hope to better their circumstances, but it was just a con and a way of generating revenue from the poor.
That wouldn't happen in UK, or course. | | | |
| National Lottery on 02:24 - Oct 20 with 1776 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |
Your broad understanding is wrong.
Any given set of six numbers has the same chance as any other set of six numbers. Every time. Regardless of previous outcomes.
It is completely random and that means that the numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6 could come out in every draw for the next hundred years. But probably won't. |  |
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| National Lottery on 06:16 - Oct 20 with 1740 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| National Lottery on 02:24 - Oct 20 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Your broad understanding is wrong.
Any given set of six numbers has the same chance as any other set of six numbers. Every time. Regardless of previous outcomes.
It is completely random and that means that the numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6 could come out in every draw for the next hundred years. But probably won't. |
Indeed. Likewise in a casino if someone sees Red has hit 5 times in a row, some people will instantly come to the table to get a bet on black in the belief that it is due to be hit because of the recent run of the balls. But of course, no previous draw influences the next draw.
It’s known as the Monte Carlo fallacy. | |
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| National Lottery on 10:17 - Oct 20 with 1684 views | itfcjoe |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |
I think you could have stopped your post after the 8th word to be fair....! |  |
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| National Lottery on 10:23 - Oct 20 with 1665 views | clive_baker |
| National Lottery on 06:16 - Oct 20 by The_Romford_Blue |
Indeed. Likewise in a casino if someone sees Red has hit 5 times in a row, some people will instantly come to the table to get a bet on black in the belief that it is due to be hit because of the recent run of the balls. But of course, no previous draw influences the next draw.
It’s known as the Monte Carlo fallacy. |
TBH those people deserve to lose money. |  |
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| National Lottery on 10:25 - Oct 20 with 1659 views | clive_baker |
| National Lottery on 17:20 - Oct 19 by Zx1988 |
This is based on no mathematical knowledge whatsoever, but if you take an event that has odds of, say, 1:1,000,000 with 100% equal probability, you know that your chosen outcome will appear once in the next million occurrences of the event.
If you enter once, and your outcome doesn't occur, if you were to stick with the same outcome the odds next time should be 1:999,999, and so forth each time you bet on the same outcome.
Infinitesimally small differences, I'll admit, but a difference nonetheless.
Unless my broad understanding is wrong, of course. |
That would only be true if that outcome is removed once it has occurred. Which of course isn't the case with the lottery. | |
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| National Lottery on 11:02 - Oct 20 with 1631 views | CaptainAhab |
I won £117 a year or so ago. The lady in coop who paid out for me got really excited and said it was the most she'd ever seen anyone win, which tells you rather a lot about your chances... | | | |
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