| Edmundson - off the naughty step? 09:34 - Jan 15 with 5582 views | chicoazul |
Surely now he needs to come in from the cold. As much as I love dear old Janoi I think a more trad back 3 of him Woolf and Burg/Leigh/new player could be powerful enough to see us thru games that we are leading? Got to be worth a shot. Would give Burns a bit more to do defensively though. [Post edited 15 Jan 2023 9:35]
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:38 - Jan 15 with 3661 views | chicoazul |
How about;
Walton
Edmundson
Woolf
Burgess
Davis
KVY
Evans
Morsy
Burns
Chaplin
Ladapo
Be a lot more solid. | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:42 - Jan 15 with 3610 views | Mullet |
The alternative is probably KVY for Wes who wasn't having a great game until his goal. Not that I think we have a personnel issue at the back, the inconsistency seems to move around from player to player and the link with the CMs. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:46 - Jan 15 with 3582 views | DJR |
I don't really get the criticism of Donacien. Of course he may not be hitting the heights of last season, and isn't getting forward as much, but I don't think I can point to one goal we've conceded this season that is down to JD. |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:46 - Jan 15 with 3567 views | Dubtractor |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:38 - Jan 15 by chicoazul |
How about;
Walton
Edmundson
Woolf
Burgess
Davis
KVY
Evans
Morsy
Burns
Chaplin
Ladapo
Be a lot more solid. |
More solid, but we'd struggle to score many goals with that. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:56 - Jan 15 with 3457 views | Herbivore |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:38 - Jan 15 by chicoazul |
How about;
Walton
Edmundson
Woolf
Burgess
Davis
KVY
Evans
Morsy
Burns
Chaplin
Ladapo
Be a lot more solid. |
Far too defensive and given we're struggling for goals I don't see the value in sacrificing an attacking player for a CB. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:57 - Jan 15 with 3444 views | blueislander |
Edmundson is certainly more comfortable on the ball than Burgess. It was noticeable yesterday that Burgess did not want the ball from Walton who was forced to kick it long, which he generally did poorly. |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:02 - Jan 15 with 3399 views | ArnieM |
No. He’s not good enough . |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 with 3383 views | DJR |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:57 - Jan 15 by blueislander |
Edmundson is certainly more comfortable on the ball than Burgess. It was noticeable yesterday that Burgess did not want the ball from Walton who was forced to kick it long, which he generally did poorly. |
Woolfy also didn't seem to want the ball either yesterday, but I think that was down to the way Plymouth pressed us, with four or five players close to the penalty area when Walton had the ball, a tactic which I don't think I've seen before.
I suppose it is swings and roundabouts with Edmundson and Burgess. The former is better on the ball, but isn't as tall which means we aren't as secure in the air with him in the side. Leaving aside those two areas (and perhaps Edmundson's recent wobblyness) I don't there is much different defensively between the two players who are clearly decent enough at this level. | | | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 with 3375 views | Funge |
This one is a real head-scratcher - how on earth does Keogh make the bench ahead of him?
It would appear that we are one injury away from having Keogh starting, which is a major concern.
Very curious about why Ed is so far out of favour.... |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 with 3373 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:57 - Jan 15 by blueislander |
Edmundson is certainly more comfortable on the ball than Burgess. It was noticeable yesterday that Burgess did not want the ball from Walton who was forced to kick it long, which he generally did poorly. |
The problem with Edmundson, and what’s keeping him out at the minute, is he’s got 2-3 mistakes per game in him. If we played 3 CBs he’d be a shoe in, but we’ve moved on from that formation. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:06 - Jan 15 with 3347 views | chicoazul |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:46 - Jan 15 by Dubtractor |
More solid, but we'd struggle to score many goals with that. |
7 goals in our last 4 in the league, scoring isn’t our problem. My team has 3 of our top 4 scorers in it, sub Wes for Harness and you have the top 3. Our problem is clearly not being able to close out games, the team has conniptions when they go a goal up. | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:14 - Jan 15 with 3307 views | chicoazul |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 by Funge |
This one is a real head-scratcher - how on earth does Keogh make the bench ahead of him?
It would appear that we are one injury away from having Keogh starting, which is a major concern.
Very curious about why Ed is so far out of favour.... |
Naughty step mate. | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:20 - Jan 15 with 3261 views | cbower |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 09:42 - Jan 15 by Mullet |
The alternative is probably KVY for Wes who wasn't having a great game until his goal. Not that I think we have a personnel issue at the back, the inconsistency seems to move around from player to player and the link with the CMs. |
I thought that was really poor defending from both Davis and Burgess when Hardie hit the bar. Challenges by both got nowhere near and Burgess in particular seemed to try and win the ball when he had absolutely no chance of getting there. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:20 - Jan 15 with 3259 views | Wickets |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 by DJR |
Woolfy also didn't seem to want the ball either yesterday, but I think that was down to the way Plymouth pressed us, with four or five players close to the penalty area when Walton had the ball, a tactic which I don't think I've seen before.
I suppose it is swings and roundabouts with Edmundson and Burgess. The former is better on the ball, but isn't as tall which means we aren't as secure in the air with him in the side. Leaving aside those two areas (and perhaps Edmundson's recent wobblyness) I don't there is much different defensively between the two players who are clearly decent enough at this level. |
Yes i have to agree that we fell short on the pressing yesterday Plymouth did it better . But it was a decent performance in a tough game we are still well in this title race . |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:20 - Jan 15 with 3261 views | Chocorange |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:04 - Jan 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The problem with Edmundson, and what’s keeping him out at the minute, is he’s got 2-3 mistakes per game in him. If we played 3 CBs he’d be a shoe in, but we’ve moved on from that formation. |
For me thinking back, the number of goals being conceded from the left side of our defence is a concern.
Look back recently at Charlton, Wycombe, yesterday, off the top of my head.
Also , everyone wanted Burgess in and he is the best we have in the air …… but one on one not so good , passing out from the back not good either.
His being in the team has coincided with lack of clean sheets too.
Edmundson is better coming out from the back (which may be useful if more teams press like Plymouth did yesterday , we had no movement or out ball. ), but we also conceded from the left with him in the team.. I haven’t checked back but was it as often.
Are the team aware of the left side frailty , should Morsy be more left side than right to protect.
Yesterday was also odd when Humphrey’s came in as a deep lying mid when defensive work is not his strongest suit, especially when that pushed Morsy forward and ultimately substituted … those decisions are on KM , it ended up a mess against a top of the table team for the last 15 minutes.
So would you have Burgess , Edmondson , sign someone or work hard on training ? |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:21 - Jan 15 with 3237 views | PhilTWTD |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:14 - Jan 15 by chicoazul |
Naughty step mate. |
Not sure where this 'naughty step' thing has come from. Don't think there's any truth in it at all so probably best not to repeat it. |  | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:23 - Jan 15 with 3222 views | chicoazul |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:21 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure where this 'naughty step' thing has come from. Don't think there's any truth in it at all so probably best not to repeat it. |
I think you know perfectly well! | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:23 - Jan 15 with 3214 views | chicoazul |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:20 - Jan 15 by Chocorange |
For me thinking back, the number of goals being conceded from the left side of our defence is a concern.
Look back recently at Charlton, Wycombe, yesterday, off the top of my head.
Also , everyone wanted Burgess in and he is the best we have in the air …… but one on one not so good , passing out from the back not good either.
His being in the team has coincided with lack of clean sheets too.
Edmundson is better coming out from the back (which may be useful if more teams press like Plymouth did yesterday , we had no movement or out ball. ), but we also conceded from the left with him in the team.. I haven’t checked back but was it as often.
Are the team aware of the left side frailty , should Morsy be more left side than right to protect.
Yesterday was also odd when Humphrey’s came in as a deep lying mid when defensive work is not his strongest suit, especially when that pushed Morsy forward and ultimately substituted … those decisions are on KM , it ended up a mess against a top of the table team for the last 15 minutes.
So would you have Burgess , Edmondson , sign someone or work hard on training ? |
They’re trying to sign at least one defender at the moment and it may be 2. | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:27 - Jan 15 with 3180 views | Garv |
He'd be playing ahead of Burgess for me. It's slightly baffling that even Keogh appears to be ahead of him. |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:27 - Jan 15 with 3177 views | DJR |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:20 - Jan 15 by Chocorange |
For me thinking back, the number of goals being conceded from the left side of our defence is a concern.
Look back recently at Charlton, Wycombe, yesterday, off the top of my head.
Also , everyone wanted Burgess in and he is the best we have in the air …… but one on one not so good , passing out from the back not good either.
His being in the team has coincided with lack of clean sheets too.
Edmundson is better coming out from the back (which may be useful if more teams press like Plymouth did yesterday , we had no movement or out ball. ), but we also conceded from the left with him in the team.. I haven’t checked back but was it as often.
Are the team aware of the left side frailty , should Morsy be more left side than right to protect.
Yesterday was also odd when Humphrey’s came in as a deep lying mid when defensive work is not his strongest suit, especially when that pushed Morsy forward and ultimately substituted … those decisions are on KM , it ended up a mess against a top of the table team for the last 15 minutes.
So would you have Burgess , Edmondson , sign someone or work hard on training ? |
For all the fantastic positives (just look at the set up for Harness's shot which hit the bar), Davis is rather suspect defensively too which I don't think helps us on the left.
But to replace Davis with, say, Leigh will mean we don't offer as much going forward, so the answer to the problem isn't easy.
Perhaps we've just to hope the two new signings make us that bit more clinical so that the odd defensive lapse doesn't prove costly. In this regard, I liked what I saw of Hirst when he came on. | | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:30 - Jan 15 with 3148 views | Funge |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:21 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure where this 'naughty step' thing has come from. Don't think there's any truth in it at all so probably best not to repeat it. |
... which rather begs the question, Philip, as to why he can't even make the bench ahead of a 36-year old Keogh?
Makes no sense. | | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:31 - Jan 15 with 3118 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:30 - Jan 15 by Funge |
... which rather begs the question, Philip, as to why he can't even make the bench ahead of a 36-year old Keogh?
Makes no sense. |
Maybe he got a new bed too? |  |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:34 - Jan 15 with 3084 views | PhilTWTD |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:30 - Jan 15 by Funge |
... which rather begs the question, Philip, as to why he can't even make the bench ahead of a 36-year old Keogh?
Makes no sense. |
He had had a knee problem which has meant he hadn't trained much some weeks. But I think they've preferred Keogh as a sub option as he's aerially better in games when they think they might be on the end of an aerial barrage. | | | |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:35 - Jan 15 with 3046 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:34 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
He had had a knee problem which has meant he hadn't trained much some weeks. But I think they've preferred Keogh as a sub option as he's aerially better in games when they think they might be on the end of an aerial barrage. |
What about luongo and aluko? | |
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| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:36 - Jan 15 with 3045 views | PhilTWTD |
| Edmundson - off the naughty step? on 10:35 - Jan 15 by FrimleyBlue |
What about luongo and aluko? |
We can only have 18 players in the squad, so someone's going to be left out. Aluko was with the analysts up by the press box. | | | |
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