| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey 21:06 - Mar 10 with 2651 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
When are they going to be censored too? |  |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:10 - Mar 10 with 2317 views | MattinLondon |
The next time they speak out against this government. |  | | |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:16 - Mar 10 with 2311 views | Basuco |
Both these are worth a listen, edit 2nd one added.
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:20 - Mar 10 with 2280 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:10 - Mar 10 by MattinLondon |
The next time they speak out against this government. |
You might be on to something there! |  |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:23 - Mar 10 with 2283 views | Swansea_Blue |
My favourite one on this was someone saying that Lineker should stop making political statements as soon as Peston stops talking about Man Utd. I’ve no idea of the background, but it sounds like Peston is a fan and does tweet/whatever about Man U fairly regularly. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:37 - Mar 10 with 2246 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:16 - Mar 10 by Basuco |
Both these are worth a listen, edit 2nd one added.
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I don’t know who Kaveh Solhekol is (after the Jon Stewart thread, there’s a common theme here of me not knowing who anyone is 🤣), but that totally nails it.
AC is different gravy. He’s divisive and still a hugely bias political animal, but he’s also got a point. I tend to agree. That’ll be dismissed by many though because of who he is. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:45 - Mar 10 with 2217 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:16 - Mar 10 by Basuco |
Both these are worth a listen, edit 2nd one added.
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Hadn't seen the Alastair Campbell one before but it was watching Karveh Solhekol that motivated me to write the thread. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:48 - Mar 10 with 2175 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:37 - Mar 10 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t know who Kaveh Solhekol is (after the Jon Stewart thread, there’s a common theme here of me not knowing who anyone is 🤣), but that totally nails it.
AC is different gravy. He’s divisive and still a hugely bias political animal, but he’s also got a point. I tend to agree. That’ll be dismissed by many though because of who he is. |
He is chief reporter for Sky Sports News and always speaks knowledgeably and eloquently on any topic he covers - often controversial ones with legal ramifications. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 21:51 - Mar 10 with 2169 views | Basuco |
Gary Lineker speaking to Ross Atkins in 2021 brings it into context as well .
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:10 - Mar 10 with 2100 views | homer_123 |
As an aside - MOTD will actually be better without the mind numbingly dull punditry.
Note: that has nothing to do with the current BBC vs Lineker situation [Post edited 10 Mar 2023 22:10]
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:24 - Mar 10 with 2050 views | Ftnfwest |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:10 - Mar 10 by homer_123 |
As an aside - MOTD will actually be better without the mind numbingly dull punditry.
Note: that has nothing to do with the current BBC vs Lineker situation [Post edited 10 Mar 2023 22:10]
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Disappointed tbh. I was hoping for Zulu |  | | |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:26 - Mar 10 with 2052 views | lowhouseblue |
should the bbc, a publicly funded broadcaster, be politically impartial with respect to party politics?
if the bbc's most prominent talent takes a very public party political stance does that affect the public perception of the bbc's party political impartiality?
i respect lineker's decision to speak out, and his views, but i'm not sure where he has left the bbc to go. sadly i suspect that if he doesn't want to comply with the impartiality guidance he needs to resign. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:31 - Mar 10 with 1997 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:26 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
should the bbc, a publicly funded broadcaster, be politically impartial with respect to party politics?
if the bbc's most prominent talent takes a very public party political stance does that affect the public perception of the bbc's party political impartiality?
i respect lineker's decision to speak out, and his views, but i'm not sure where he has left the bbc to go. sadly i suspect that if he doesn't want to comply with the impartiality guidance he needs to resign. |
So Sugar and co will be sanctioned. That is what you are saying? | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:36 - Mar 10 with 1963 views | lowhouseblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:31 - Mar 10 by Nthsuffolkblue |
So Sugar and co will be sanctioned. That is what you are saying? |
what i am saying is what's in my post. i know nothing about alan sugar. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:39 - Mar 10 with 1931 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:36 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
what i am saying is what's in my post. i know nothing about alan sugar. |
Suffice it to say you are accepting one rule for one and another rule for another. | |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 03:09 - Mar 11 with 1647 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:36 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
what i am saying is what's in my post. i know nothing about alan sugar. |
If you have the time and energy to make a bland regurgitated post about how GL should resign, then you have the time and energy to go and read about the Alan Sugar bias that head of the BBC demonstrably doesn't care about.
What you are saying is you are a hypocrite that hides behind avoidance. Hearing that loud and clear. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 5:00]
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 08:12 - Mar 11 with 1542 views | Herbivore |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:26 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
should the bbc, a publicly funded broadcaster, be politically impartial with respect to party politics?
if the bbc's most prominent talent takes a very public party political stance does that affect the public perception of the bbc's party political impartiality?
i respect lineker's decision to speak out, and his views, but i'm not sure where he has left the bbc to go. sadly i suspect that if he doesn't want to comply with the impartiality guidance he needs to resign. |
A new low for lowhouse. |  |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 08:56 - Mar 11 with 1422 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:26 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
should the bbc, a publicly funded broadcaster, be politically impartial with respect to party politics?
if the bbc's most prominent talent takes a very public party political stance does that affect the public perception of the bbc's party political impartiality?
i respect lineker's decision to speak out, and his views, but i'm not sure where he has left the bbc to go. sadly i suspect that if he doesn't want to comply with the impartiality guidance he needs to resign. |
But the key thing here are that the are HIS PERSONAL views and he’s not expressed them on behalf of the BBC.
He’s well within his rights, and I say this as someone who doesn’t like his smugness/tone deaf look how much my contract is demeanour. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 8:59]
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 09:19 - Mar 11 with 1358 views | bournemouthblue |
The BBC have got themselves into a right pickle on this one, the Tories were having their impartiality looked at any way weren't they?
I get the impression the Tories were particularly unhappy really at being held to account on anything, which didn't really help
I actually think the BBC's attempt at balance has backfired in the past, giving a platform to the likes of Farage |  |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:21 - Mar 11 with 1212 views | RamRob |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 03:09 - Mar 11 by Kropotkin123 |
If you have the time and energy to make a bland regurgitated post about how GL should resign, then you have the time and energy to go and read about the Alan Sugar bias that head of the BBC demonstrably doesn't care about.
What you are saying is you are a hypocrite that hides behind avoidance. Hearing that loud and clear. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 5:00]
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To be honest that depends on what the policies were when AS made his comments, whether he was challenged against those policies and whether there was an outcome that was accepted by the BBC at the time. Unfortunately we won't know as not all the details will have been published.
The difference with other people may just be that they bowed to the pressure and backtracked. Gary has stuck to his guns.
Up to the BBC to decide whether or not to take further action. |  |
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:38 - Mar 11 with 1143 views | jontysnut |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 22:26 - Mar 10 by lowhouseblue |
should the bbc, a publicly funded broadcaster, be politically impartial with respect to party politics?
if the bbc's most prominent talent takes a very public party political stance does that affect the public perception of the bbc's party political impartiality?
i respect lineker's decision to speak out, and his views, but i'm not sure where he has left the bbc to go. sadly i suspect that if he doesn't want to comply with the impartiality guidance he needs to resign. |
Where has he said vote Labour, or Monster Raving Looney. He's called out the inflammatory language of a politician. There will probably be a few Tories (somewhere) who equally deplore Braverman's tone. |  | | |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:39 - Mar 11 with 1142 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:21 - Mar 11 by RamRob |
To be honest that depends on what the policies were when AS made his comments, whether he was challenged against those policies and whether there was an outcome that was accepted by the BBC at the time. Unfortunately we won't know as not all the details will have been published.
The difference with other people may just be that they bowed to the pressure and backtracked. Gary has stuck to his guns.
Up to the BBC to decide whether or not to take further action. |
Sugar deleted his Tweet after the Labour Party complained and there was a public backlash.
Sugar was not sanctioned by the BBC nor told to delete by them. From the BBC's own website: "Lord Sugar has not apologised for the tweet but, responding to Mr McDonnell, he said Mr Corbyn needed to "make a firm statement about anti-Semitism"." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43604058
Whether or not you agree with the comment/sentiment, it is clearly one rule for one and another rule for another. There has been no suggestion of any change in the BBC policy on private political statements either.
EDITED to include link. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 15:39]
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| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:53 - Mar 11 with 1104 views | RamRob |
| Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson, Tim Davey on 15:39 - Mar 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Sugar deleted his Tweet after the Labour Party complained and there was a public backlash.
Sugar was not sanctioned by the BBC nor told to delete by them. From the BBC's own website: "Lord Sugar has not apologised for the tweet but, responding to Mr McDonnell, he said Mr Corbyn needed to "make a firm statement about anti-Semitism"." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43604058
Whether or not you agree with the comment/sentiment, it is clearly one rule for one and another rule for another. There has been no suggestion of any change in the BBC policy on private political statements either.
EDITED to include link. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 15:39]
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I would say that the people writing the article are not the same as the people making the decisions, the higher ups may have been appeased by him deleting the tweeet.
The person writing the article is just reporting what they have found, and don't necessarily have the full details, so I don't really take that because it's from its own website it means anything more than from another source.
My point is the BBC appear to be ok with the outcome from what happened with Alan Sugar.
Rightly or wrongly, they are not currently satisfied with the Lineker situation and that may just be because he is sticking to principles as he is perfectly entitled to do. I don't think he should apologise, it's up to the BBC to either take further action or rethink their stance. I don't see what Alan Sugar has to do with it. Each situation is different. | |
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