| Net spend 13:12 - Apr 28 with 2220 views | tractordownsouth |
Going back to what Ashton said about our net spend on transfer fees being zero, did that apply to last season or all of his time here?
Last season it probably wasn't far off, with Downes, Dozzell and Gibbs fetching just over £3m between them.
I struggle to work out how we've recouped our spend this season though. Add together Broadhead (£1.5m), Clarke (£1m), Davis (£1m), Camara (500k) and you get about £4m, plus Ahamde who presumably cost a low six figure sum. In terms of incomings we've only had the 750k from Simpson and £1m from the Downes sell on, unless I'm missing anybody.
Obviously the wage budget has gone up hugely so it's a lot of money spent either way, but can't see how the numbers for this season add up to make the fees pay for themselves purely through sales. |  |
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| Net spend on 13:15 - Apr 28 with 2175 views | Metal_Hacker |
Yeah I was having this argument with another Wendies fan last night and I was struggling to support my/Ashton's words to be fair . I just ended by saying the Wendies fan didn't know what he was talking about and walked away- neither did I really but ferk em
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| Net spend on 13:18 - Apr 28 with 2133 views | Illinoisblue |
It sounded like a politician’s answer from Ashton. No way can we be in a net zero spend situation. |  |
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| Net spend on 13:22 - Apr 28 with 2083 views | xrayspecs |
It was not clear and you got the sense he was choosing his words carefully.
I think we got more for Downes, closer to £2m up front and £1m sell-on? You can add in Scott Fraser, iirc someone said we managed to recoup what we spent on him. I think we also got small fees for Bishop, Hawkins (very small) and possibly Lankaster.
EDIT: we may have got a fee for Toto. [Post edited 28 Apr 2023 13:34]
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| Net spend on 13:23 - Apr 28 with 2081 views | Daninthecampo |
We got good money back for Fraser didn't we? But still can't see how we spent zero | | | |
| Net spend on 13:23 - Apr 28 with 2078 views | oldburian |
Do not forget there has been a significant uplift in attendance income, the sale of the replica shirts and ‘I follow’ receipts which will together mitigate the transfer spend. | | | |
| Net spend on 13:26 - Apr 28 with 2016 views | itfcjoe |
There was a bigger sell on for Downes which probably helped a bit but I don't see it being net zero |  |
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| Net spend on 13:35 - Apr 28 with 1928 views | ArnieM |
Maybe we should just accept football has moved in financially . It’s crazy money in the game now ( not that I agree with it btw). And that money sloshing around doesn’t just stop to one or two Championship clubs…. It’s filtering down into league one, quite naturally as big clubs get relegated down a level. As I’ve often said before Sky money ( coz ultimately that’s what it ya), filters through snd makes it an uneven playing field. I feel sorry for the “ established” league one clubs who have to compete with the bigger clubs on a fraction of the budget. Clubs need rich owners these days. Closer to home, I think narwich are trying desperately to get a rich partner as the financial demands have gone way beyond old Delias pocket now, and they’re certainly aware of what’s going on at Ipswich…, the silence from that direction towards us is deafening isn’t it! |  |
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| Net spend on 13:43 - Apr 28 with 1900 views | Ftnfwest |
I think he meant this season which is probably right considering the bonus Downes money. Overall since the Cook days i think we've spent on fees more like £7-7.5m overall and recouped about £5m. It's the wage bill that's done up significantly.
The thing is though it's mainly a conscious decision to get younger players in on permanent deals rather than loans. Plymouth have done it the other way and good luck to them, it's worked, and meant they have been able to get players in that are as good as ours largely without fees although i'm sure there will have been some. The downside for them is that they are just about to lose a number of them and will have to start again.
Both Mckenna and Schumacher are fine young managers and the majority of players they've brought in were very good before they came, but in my opinion are all even better now. But Plymouth will have to do all that work again.. |  | | |
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| Net spend on 13:48 - Apr 28 with 1834 views | FrimleyBlue |
Perhaps there's quite a fair bit we had in from other player sales, we see youngsters going to the likes of spurs and man city, whilst they aren't big sums, they all add up.
Also with the fee's we've 'paid' could they be in installments and depending on reaching certain milestones.. |  |
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| Net spend on 13:50 - Apr 28 with 1802 views | Freddies_Ears |
He said it would be a zero net spend over 3 years, including next season. Then added, even if we sell a player for a big fee, the squad is still far stronger than previously.
We have brought in a fair bit already, but I guess there is a possibility of one moving on, based on that. We could turn a very quick profit on Broadhead, for example. | | | |
| Net spend on 13:52 - Apr 28 with 1790 views | tractorboy1978 |
Depends how payments/receipts on the deals have been structured I guess, i.e Broadhead won't be £1.5m up front but the Downes add-on may have been payable in a lump. Does seem hard to come to zero though! [Post edited 28 Apr 2023 13:52]
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| Net spend on 13:53 - Apr 28 with 1776 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Instalments.
Payments from Downes, Dozzell, Gibbs etc negotiated over a few payments, Simpson, Downes sell on as one lump sum.
Fees for Broadhead et al over the life of the contract. = less out, more in [Post edited 28 Apr 2023 13:53]
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| Net spend on 14:03 - Apr 28 with 1710 views | blueasfook |
| Net spend on 13:18 - Apr 28 by Illinoisblue |
It sounded like a politician’s answer from Ashton. No way can we be in a net zero spend situation. |
I seem to remember reading something along the lines of we have made a net loss of about £12million since Gamechanger took over? I may be wrong. |  |
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| Net spend on 17:01 - Apr 28 with 1520 views | BigCommon |
May well have been very low ( near zero), at the time it was mentioned at FF.. But how many of the 20 odd players we've signed in last 2 seasons, will have add on clauses for gaining promotion from L1?.. Camara? Walton? Davis? Clarke? Chaplin? Broadhead? Morsy?...Etc.. Got to be quite a few, you'd think..And that's going to add up..
And it's been mentioned already on here, that we could see some early business done. Before we fall under financial constraints of Champioship. Which, if that gets lumped onto 22/23 L1 season figures...Then it sure ain't going to be zero net spend.........Is it? |  | | |
| Net spend on 17:17 - Apr 28 with 1481 views | OldFart71 |
| Net spend on 13:50 - Apr 28 by Freddies_Ears |
He said it would be a zero net spend over 3 years, including next season. Then added, even if we sell a player for a big fee, the squad is still far stronger than previously.
We have brought in a fair bit already, but I guess there is a possibility of one moving on, based on that. We could turn a very quick profit on Broadhead, for example. |
Don't see selling Broadhead as a good move. Maybe a Davis if a decent replacement is on the radar and I think a few players like KVY will move on for a decent sort of fee, maybe 500k. Emphasis must be to either consolodate in the Championship or should we be in a decent position come next seasons January window to push for the Prem. But that all premature as we need to gain promotion this season first. | | | |
| Net spend on 18:33 - Apr 28 with 1400 views | Wakh |
Payments in and out are in installments though. The due dates of those incomings and outgoing would surely dictate. | | | |
| Net spend on 18:45 - Apr 28 with 1359 views | Nutkins_Return |
Can definitely see net spending pre Jan window being net zero but not really since but Ashton isn't necessarily lying as the payments structure we don't know and there will be a level of amortisation as Frimley alluded to.
I love the fact Ashton managed to get fees for the like of Hawkins, Toto and Drinan.
Where we have spent though over other clubs is on agent fees and salaries.
We'll have to do a fair bit of wheeling and dealing next season if we want to sign some really quality. By that I mean probably being quite ruthless in trimming the squad. | |
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| Net spend on 19:36 - Apr 28 with 1279 views | mojo |
| Net spend on 17:17 - Apr 28 by OldFart71 |
Don't see selling Broadhead as a good move. Maybe a Davis if a decent replacement is on the radar and I think a few players like KVY will move on for a decent sort of fee, maybe 500k. Emphasis must be to either consolodate in the Championship or should we be in a decent position come next seasons January window to push for the Prem. But that all premature as we need to gain promotion this season first. |
Isn't KVY out of contract at the end of this season? | | | |
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