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The media are a really strange bunch aren’t they. Plymouth, who let’s be honest have been excellent all season, barely are getting a mention anywhere
I am over the moon with what’s happening with us and the media positivity can only resonate through the club - but if I was Plymouth I would be using this to motivate there players big time
We just got a great mention on Talk sport alongside the Stevenage manager for getting promoted this weekend / but Plymouth didn’t get a mention ? Really strange
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:31 - May 1 with 3065 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
I know xG is just one thing but that would suggest Plymouth have had the rub of the green. But, as I said before, you make your own luck and Argyle had to brilliant week in, week out to get promoted, and deservedly so. What really impressed me was whenever you suffered a heavy defeat it didn’t derail you, you just regrouped and went again. The only slightly sticky patch was after the defeat to Grimsby in the FA Cup, otherwise it was a case of getting up again after a blow. Really impressive.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
Why are you posting on twtd instead of celebrating promotion on your own forum.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
There really isn't, beyond some of your own here who are generally decent or completely odd.
Pretending you aren't where you are based on loans and us on money is ridiculous. However, we had numerous decisions go against us, no midfield for weeks and months and still hung in there.
I think most fans are quite happy to see you go up due to the Mariner connection and fact you're a small club who were unlucky last season. By contrast I see far more hostility and bitterness from your lot on twitter especially.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
Yes, bizarre chip, you can barely look at a comment or tweet etc. from someone with a decent social media following saying something about Ipswich (for e.g.) without a sea of needy Plymouth fans underneath complaining they're not the centre of attention.
Every club forum has threads about their situation which includes commenting on those around them - it happens on your forum as well when enough of you are actually on there rather than mouthing off on other team's boards.
McKenna never had a pop about you at any point - whatever comments made were taken way out of context and your 'Schuey' (ffs come on you can't be giving a manager a footballer's nickname) even went out of his way to praise McKenna and say that they're good friends the other day. I literally said I can understand Schumacher giving it the 'us against the world' narrative so why you're carrying on like that I have no idea.
The other thing is this and Owlstalk are bigger, more active forums so something happens and about half a dozen people all start a thread on it, then later on in the day another half a dozen people who haven't bothered to read start threads on the same subject.
People have been saying you're a great team all season, but naturally bigger clubs with bigger backing and spending power will get fancied more often than one that is punching a bit. Happens in every league all over the place. If you want to live in an insular world where everything is Plymouth, Plymouth, Plymouth then go ahead but it's one detached from reality.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
The Times article won't go down well with them that's for sure 😂
It would obviously be nuts to belittle what Plymouth have done and I'm not sure the media are. They've been on the right side of tough encounters far too often for suggestions of luck in my book and they've dealt with a lot of adversity along the way. Argyle finding a way to win is as predictable as us now steamrollering any L1 side on a good pitch.
Differences in club size can account for a fair amount of the unequal coverage, but there's another distinction (already touched on) that their fans mostly choose to sidestep: the manner of our victories. Plymouth have showcased all the ingredients of a top L1 side. They've also taken some proper beatings and shown other L1 sides to be very competitive against them. 98 points with only +33 GD demonstrates this well, as do many other stats (chances created vs. conceded a notable one).
We, on the other hand, have been a total mismatch for L1 opposition since the January recruits bedded in. How we've played and won is going to attract attention beyond the usual L1 column inches. If Argyle hold on this Sunday I hope they receive all the limelight for doing so.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:45 - May 1 with 2984 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 11:42 - May 1 by SlippinJimmyJuan
If Danny Kelly is on with H&J today you can expect him to give us a mention too. He rates Bobby's side as one of the greatest of all time and definitely has a soft spot for us.
His brother is a Town fan and a TWTD poster!
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:54 - May 1 with 2949 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
We are going to discuss our title rivals and much of it will be done through an Ipswich lens. I can see our name proudly on your forum's main page now in what is a pretty active thread. Truthfully I've read a fair bit of both your sites since January in a season-first for me, part of my current town addiction lol, and so I can confidently say you are lying or misguided in respect to the irony claim. In fact I've seen a lot of downright cheeky stuff about us on your site and Weds' this season, but I expect it in a rival fans' forum and have never thought to 'correct the record' lol by signing up on either.
Your last sentence is the cringe one. It is in your heads and you should be more self-confident!
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 10:54 - May 1 by pointofblue
Bournemouth got plenty of promotion in 14/15 when they went up whilst supposedly not having two beans to rub together.
Didn't they sign kenwyne Jones on loan on about £40k a week or something haha
Even after years in the premier league the pundits/commentators were still saying how amazing it was etc. Anyone who knew, knew they spent a lot of money.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 13:27 - May 1 with 2856 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
Little Plymouth with the fourth biggest wage bill in the league (depending on the accuracy of this video)?
Therefore, you are only punching very slightly above your weight, with the advantage of Sheffield having a very dodgy spell, and Derby probably splashing on wages rather than transfer fees. The same could also be said for Town capitalising of Sheffield's dodgy spell.
All I see on social media is for almost every post celebrating Ipswich's promotion, there is always a reply somewhere of "But Plymouth......", even on posts by our own club's media team. It becomes tiresome and also makes your fans look a bit tinpot.
I honestly hope that you win the title on Sunday, but I also hope that we manage the 100 points, 100 goals. Winning the third division seems to mean the world to your club, but for Ipswich, it is insignificant. I would rather we don't register winning the third division as an honour, as there is no honour in a team with our history being in the third division.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 15:12 - May 1 with 2688 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:07 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Bizarre chip? All season long on TWTD (or owlstalk for that matter) there is a thread about us. Every week of the season it was 'Plymouth will slip'. Recently it's the 'Plymouth have been so f** lucky'. Your manager then had a pop about that. Before that on here it was 'Plymouth's dodgy away form' (3rd best in the league). We've had plenty of 'Loan FC' comments. When Whittaker was recalled, there was about 15 threads on here.
So, forgive Schuey, the manager who has had to take all the brunt and pressure, for being a bit frustrated and letting off a bit of steam! Forgive Schuey for being a bit fedop of Argyle being underestimated, week in, week out. Deary me.
The irony, is that on PASOTI there's barely ever anything on Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday.
Seems that the big clubs just can't deal with little Plymouth upsetting the applecart.
I've been reading Pasoti for months. There hasn't been a day I couldn't read about Ipswich or Sheff Wed.
We have more posts on other teams. We also have more posts on our team. That's because we have more people posting. It's because we have more fans using this website than you do have fans using Pasoti.
Regarding Home v Away from. Plymouth have 61 points at home and 37 points away. That's a 24 point difference. The difference between Ipswich's home and away tally is 11 points. Sheff Wed's difference is 9. Barnsley's difference is 12 points. Your recent away form is also much improved. 4 of your 10 away wins have occured in your last 4 games. You've also been on the end of some hammerings away from home. Losing 5-1, 5-2, 3-0. Contrast that to us. Our away losses have all been by single goal.
When people say "Plymouth will slip" it is more that people hope you slip. That we say it every game is because you've been top two pretty much all season, which is what we've been targeting. Of course we have wanted you, Sheff Wed and Barnsley to slip up, as you have been promotion rivals. I also note on your website that we had "Ipswich will drop points at..." Bolton, Derby, Peterborough, Barnsley... Town fans were called arrogant on Pasoti before these games. But we had seen the difference in our team since Bristol Rovers and it was proven to be justified. We're not going on other forums crying about it.
It is also odd that you only single out negative comments. They are comments throughout our celebrations congratulating Plymouth. Just me alone I have said I hope Plymouth, Ipswich and Sheff Wed win this weekend so the stats forever reflect how competitive this season has been. I've said any team finishing above this Ipswich team has had an excellent season.
On your congratulations Ipswich thread you have comments like "Why have we got a thread Kow towing to Ipswich when on their forum you’d think they’re top and we’re straggling behind them.", "The [Exeter] match stats do not reflect a 6-0 win.", "Happy to say I know all too well the Ipswich fan base are entrenched with a lot of idiots, more than most in my experience." ...err, thanks for the congrats, I guess. On another thread your fans accuse Exeter of throwing the game, like we didn't beat Charlton 6-0 two home games earlier, like we haven't score 4 or more in six of our last nine home games.
So it is bizarre to us that you feel the need to come on here and: - deny factual information about the difference between your home and away form - complain about promotion rivals wanting you to slip up - only reference perceivably negative comments, amongst many positive ones. - not recognised that you have a section of fans that do the same.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 11:42 - May 1 by SlippinJimmyJuan
If Danny Kelly is on with H&J today you can expect him to give us a mention too. He rates Bobby's side as one of the greatest of all time and definitely has a soft spot for us.
Well, I should have read Phil's earlier contribution to the thread shouldn't I?
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:06 - May 1 with 2431 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 13:58 - May 1 by FoD_Blue
Little Plymouth with the fourth biggest wage bill in the league (depending on the accuracy of this video)?
Therefore, you are only punching very slightly above your weight, with the advantage of Sheffield having a very dodgy spell, and Derby probably splashing on wages rather than transfer fees. The same could also be said for Town capitalising of Sheffield's dodgy spell.
All I see on social media is for almost every post celebrating Ipswich's promotion, there is always a reply somewhere of "But Plymouth......", even on posts by our own club's media team. It becomes tiresome and also makes your fans look a bit tinpot.
I honestly hope that you win the title on Sunday, but I also hope that we manage the 100 points, 100 goals. Winning the third division seems to mean the world to your club, but for Ipswich, it is insignificant. I would rather we don't register winning the third division as an honour, as there is no honour in a team with our history being in the third division.
Portsmouth spent £1.8mn more than us, year 2021/22.
In that same year, Ipswich's wages & salaries was nearly triple ours at £16mn. The video suggests that the wage bill at Argyle this season, is almost that of Ipswich's. If anything, the gap is even wider than it was before, and will be at least 3x that of Argyle. So that video looks silly and the rest of your argument doesn't follow anything.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:11 - May 1 with 2407 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 12:35 - May 1 by Mullet
There really isn't, beyond some of your own here who are generally decent or completely odd.
Pretending you aren't where you are based on loans and us on money is ridiculous. However, we had numerous decisions go against us, no midfield for weeks and months and still hung in there.
I think most fans are quite happy to see you go up due to the Mariner connection and fact you're a small club who were unlucky last season. By contrast I see far more hostility and bitterness from your lot on twitter especially.
The loans have made a massive contribution but we have no reliance on them. We scored 80 pts last season with totally unremarkable loans. Now we're on 98. All these 'lucky' wins of late - have basically been with 1 loan starter in Mumba. We've been winning week in week out with the others out of the squad or on the bench. Azaz and Cosgrove and Matete have been benched for quite a while now. If we were reliant on anyone, it was Whittaker. He left and we maintained everything. Again, the team is massively underrated.
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:21 - May 1 with 2370 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:11 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
The loans have made a massive contribution but we have no reliance on them. We scored 80 pts last season with totally unremarkable loans. Now we're on 98. All these 'lucky' wins of late - have basically been with 1 loan starter in Mumba. We've been winning week in week out with the others out of the squad or on the bench. Azaz and Cosgrove and Matete have been benched for quite a while now. If we were reliant on anyone, it was Whittaker. He left and we maintained everything. Again, the team is massively underrated.
Eh? How is last season relevant exactly? I'm not arguing you've not had injuries either, but this idea no one has noticed your form and the desperate need for attention is weird. The idea that loans haven't massively bolstered your squad or got you a significant amoutn of points in both halves of the season is rubbish. It reeks of the small club attitude coming out of your fanbase and spoiling the narrative somewhat.
The media are always going to pick up on us, as we should never have been down here. Us coming back up is a big deal for us and for the whole of English football. We're known for winning major trophies, producing great players, great football, England managers etc.
You're known for Ginsters and that Paul Whitehouse advert.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 15:12 - May 1 by Kropotkin123
I've been reading Pasoti for months. There hasn't been a day I couldn't read about Ipswich or Sheff Wed.
We have more posts on other teams. We also have more posts on our team. That's because we have more people posting. It's because we have more fans using this website than you do have fans using Pasoti.
Regarding Home v Away from. Plymouth have 61 points at home and 37 points away. That's a 24 point difference. The difference between Ipswich's home and away tally is 11 points. Sheff Wed's difference is 9. Barnsley's difference is 12 points. Your recent away form is also much improved. 4 of your 10 away wins have occured in your last 4 games. You've also been on the end of some hammerings away from home. Losing 5-1, 5-2, 3-0. Contrast that to us. Our away losses have all been by single goal.
When people say "Plymouth will slip" it is more that people hope you slip. That we say it every game is because you've been top two pretty much all season, which is what we've been targeting. Of course we have wanted you, Sheff Wed and Barnsley to slip up, as you have been promotion rivals. I also note on your website that we had "Ipswich will drop points at..." Bolton, Derby, Peterborough, Barnsley... Town fans were called arrogant on Pasoti before these games. But we had seen the difference in our team since Bristol Rovers and it was proven to be justified. We're not going on other forums crying about it.
It is also odd that you only single out negative comments. They are comments throughout our celebrations congratulating Plymouth. Just me alone I have said I hope Plymouth, Ipswich and Sheff Wed win this weekend so the stats forever reflect how competitive this season has been. I've said any team finishing above this Ipswich team has had an excellent season.
On your congratulations Ipswich thread you have comments like "Why have we got a thread Kow towing to Ipswich when on their forum you’d think they’re top and we’re straggling behind them.", "The [Exeter] match stats do not reflect a 6-0 win.", "Happy to say I know all too well the Ipswich fan base are entrenched with a lot of idiots, more than most in my experience." ...err, thanks for the congrats, I guess. On another thread your fans accuse Exeter of throwing the game, like we didn't beat Charlton 6-0 two home games earlier, like we haven't score 4 or more in six of our last nine home games.
So it is bizarre to us that you feel the need to come on here and: - deny factual information about the difference between your home and away form - complain about promotion rivals wanting you to slip up - only reference perceivably negative comments, amongst many positive ones. - not recognised that you have a section of fans that do the same.
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Our away form was top 4/5 all season, which doesn't really constitute dodgy away form, despite our imperious home form or having played 2 league games where we got mullered (Peterborough & Barnsley). If being top 4/5 away all season long constitutes 'dodgy away form', then we'll have to agree to disagree as to the definition of 'dodgy'. Dodgy away form to me suggests a side in the lower half of the table, not the 4th or 5th best in the league.
The difference between Ipswich 'dropping points at Bolton, Derby, Peterborough, Barnsley etc' is because on paper that's a run of fixtures against some of the top sides in the league. What Argyle had all season long, week in week out, was everyone saying 'they will slip', 'they won't keep it up'. 'loan fc', 'if their loan players get recalled in Jan they'll be in trouble' etc etc
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:45 - May 1 with 2319 views
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:11 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
The loans have made a massive contribution but we have no reliance on them. We scored 80 pts last season with totally unremarkable loans. Now we're on 98. All these 'lucky' wins of late - have basically been with 1 loan starter in Mumba. We've been winning week in week out with the others out of the squad or on the bench. Azaz and Cosgrove and Matete have been benched for quite a while now. If we were reliant on anyone, it was Whittaker. He left and we maintained everything. Again, the team is massively underrated.
Why have you come on to a thread that is generally supportive of Plymouth, only to wind people up? What would your friends on PASOTI make of that?
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:11 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
The loans have made a massive contribution but we have no reliance on them. We scored 80 pts last season with totally unremarkable loans. Now we're on 98. All these 'lucky' wins of late - have basically been with 1 loan starter in Mumba. We've been winning week in week out with the others out of the squad or on the bench. Azaz and Cosgrove and Matete have been benched for quite a while now. If we were reliant on anyone, it was Whittaker. He left and we maintained everything. Again, the team is massively underrated.
It’s not us you need to convince of your credentials. We’ve played you twice and they’ve been 2 very tight games that in reality were probably games that both warranted a draw. We’ve seen first hand that you’re a good side.
If you need / want to convince anyone it’s the wider footballing community and media who seemingly aren’t that interested in your achievement, which is what the thread was about. Ultimately the media care about viewers, listeners, readers and clicks, that’s what pays the bills. Call me entitled but Ipswich is a bigger club with a bigger reach, hence that’s where the column inches are dedicated.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 15:12 - May 1 by Kropotkin123
I've been reading Pasoti for months. There hasn't been a day I couldn't read about Ipswich or Sheff Wed.
We have more posts on other teams. We also have more posts on our team. That's because we have more people posting. It's because we have more fans using this website than you do have fans using Pasoti.
Regarding Home v Away from. Plymouth have 61 points at home and 37 points away. That's a 24 point difference. The difference between Ipswich's home and away tally is 11 points. Sheff Wed's difference is 9. Barnsley's difference is 12 points. Your recent away form is also much improved. 4 of your 10 away wins have occured in your last 4 games. You've also been on the end of some hammerings away from home. Losing 5-1, 5-2, 3-0. Contrast that to us. Our away losses have all been by single goal.
When people say "Plymouth will slip" it is more that people hope you slip. That we say it every game is because you've been top two pretty much all season, which is what we've been targeting. Of course we have wanted you, Sheff Wed and Barnsley to slip up, as you have been promotion rivals. I also note on your website that we had "Ipswich will drop points at..." Bolton, Derby, Peterborough, Barnsley... Town fans were called arrogant on Pasoti before these games. But we had seen the difference in our team since Bristol Rovers and it was proven to be justified. We're not going on other forums crying about it.
It is also odd that you only single out negative comments. They are comments throughout our celebrations congratulating Plymouth. Just me alone I have said I hope Plymouth, Ipswich and Sheff Wed win this weekend so the stats forever reflect how competitive this season has been. I've said any team finishing above this Ipswich team has had an excellent season.
On your congratulations Ipswich thread you have comments like "Why have we got a thread Kow towing to Ipswich when on their forum you’d think they’re top and we’re straggling behind them.", "The [Exeter] match stats do not reflect a 6-0 win.", "Happy to say I know all too well the Ipswich fan base are entrenched with a lot of idiots, more than most in my experience." ...err, thanks for the congrats, I guess. On another thread your fans accuse Exeter of throwing the game, like we didn't beat Charlton 6-0 two home games earlier, like we haven't score 4 or more in six of our last nine home games.
So it is bizarre to us that you feel the need to come on here and: - deny factual information about the difference between your home and away form - complain about promotion rivals wanting you to slip up - only reference perceivably negative comments, amongst many positive ones. - not recognised that you have a section of fans that do the same.
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Oh dear fat thumb sorry - thought you could cancel out a downvote by upvoting but appears not 😔
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 20:27 - May 1 with 2209 views
Reminds me a little of the season we just missed out on the League Title . Villa won it because we ran out of steam and had injuries to players like Beattie which was a massive blow. Villa were crowned Champions but never got the recognition for it in the country or media.
The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:23 - May 1 by Argyle_Fan
Our away form was top 4/5 all season, which doesn't really constitute dodgy away form, despite our imperious home form or having played 2 league games where we got mullered (Peterborough & Barnsley). If being top 4/5 away all season long constitutes 'dodgy away form', then we'll have to agree to disagree as to the definition of 'dodgy'. Dodgy away form to me suggests a side in the lower half of the table, not the 4th or 5th best in the league.
The difference between Ipswich 'dropping points at Bolton, Derby, Peterborough, Barnsley etc' is because on paper that's a run of fixtures against some of the top sides in the league. What Argyle had all season long, week in week out, was everyone saying 'they will slip', 'they won't keep it up'. 'loan fc', 'if their loan players get recalled in Jan they'll be in trouble' etc etc
"Loan FC" has been mentioned so few times on here that I haven't seen it. For context, I come on here pretty much daily and have posted ~6000 times. The idea that everyone was saying is frankly ludicrous.
"they will slip" and "they won't keep it it" is being taken way too far. We had that in our run too. If you win on Sunday, 101 points will be the 2= highest Tier 3 tally in history. The form you have shown is incredible, but comments like "they will slip up" are not just about you, they are about historical precendents. What you have done, if you get to 101, is not the norm. What we have done, if we get 100 points, is not the norm.
Here are the top tier three points tallys 2013/2014: 1 Wolverhampton Wanderers 103 1998/1999: 1 Fulham 101 2011/2012: 1 Charlton Athletic 101 2002/2003: 1 Wigan Athletic 100 2016/2017: 1 Sheffield United 100
Also, I note you conveniently missed out the 5-1 loss to Charlton. A team we recently smashed 6-0. That is a dodgy result.
We beat Bolton 2-0, made them look ordinary. You had a very poor game, and lost 4-0 in the cup. It is not crazy to expect a slip up after that. conceding 4 against them is dodgy. You did well to not allow that result to feed into you league form. Let's not sit here and pretend that comments like "they won't last" weren't made in isolation. After 6 wins in 18 away games, I didn't expect you to go away and win 4 in a row. That isn't the away form you had demonstrated. People had a fair case for thinking you would slip up.
The example that I gave about us having other fans comment on us isn't to say your fans weren't justified in there observation. It is to say you don't see us going on other fans forums crying about the injustice of it all. You need to get a grip, put on you big boy pants, and go and enjoy your team's success. Who gives a #### what Ipswich fans thought? You're up, now it is time to demonstrate you belong in the Championship (or set your sights higher, if you dare to dream).
For a team on course for 101 points, you away form is dodgy. The flip side to that is your home form was exceptional. You got 61 points out of 69!!
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The media are very strange - Plymouth on 19:21 - May 1 by Mullet
Eh? How is last season relevant exactly? I'm not arguing you've not had injuries either, but this idea no one has noticed your form and the desperate need for attention is weird. The idea that loans haven't massively bolstered your squad or got you a significant amoutn of points in both halves of the season is rubbish. It reeks of the small club attitude coming out of your fanbase and spoiling the narrative somewhat.
The media are always going to pick up on us, as we should never have been down here. Us coming back up is a big deal for us and for the whole of English football. We're known for winning major trophies, producing great players, great football, England managers etc.
You're known for Ginsters and that Paul Whitehouse advert.
Levels innit.
Because last season's squad was kept entirely intact bar the sale of Camara. It's entirely relevant because with the same group of players, we got 80 points, and potentially this season 101. I think it's a bit farfetched to suggest that two seasons running on an average of 90 points, we have relied on loans, ignoring the fact that the very large majority of the squad are contracted to the club.
Why should you have never been down here? You'd have to be at least 70 years old to think of and have witnessed Ipswich as a Premiership winning club. Any young Ipswich fan of today only knows Ipswich as a Championship/L1 club. Sorry to burst your bubble. That's literally what you are.
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