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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby 08:32 - May 10 with 14473 views

A Norwich fan has laid down a challenge to name 50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby, can the TWTD hive mind provide a list, off the top of my head I have this but there must be many many more than this current list

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Ray Crawford
Ted Phillips
Trevor Whymark
John Wark
Arnold Muhren
Frans Thijsen
Alan Brazil
Eric Gates
David Johnson (1)
Darren Bent
Kieran Dyer
Terry Butcher
Kevin Beattie
Mick Mills
Matt Holland
Paul Cooper
Roy Bailey

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:20 - May 10 with 2542 views

ThatMuhrenCross

There will be way more than 50, but here's a few to add into the mix:

Craig Forest, Frank Yallop, Ray Crawford, Mick Mills, Colin Viljoen, Kevin Beattie, Brian Talbot, Paul Mariner, Trevor Whymark, Eric Gates, Russell Osman, Terry Butcher, Richard Wright, Frans Thijssen, Arnold Muhren, Jim Magilton, Matt Holland, Alan Brazil, John Wark, George Burley....

All internationals.

I could go on, but I think it's point proven already!

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:20 - May 10 with 2541 views

NthQldITFC

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 10:03 - May 10 by iamatractorboy
In fairness, that was in response to a Town fan saying 50.

I don't see any particular reason to bring fairness into it!

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ArnoldMoorhen

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 12:20 - May 10 by bournemouthblue

That's my logic, there's a few in the 90's potentially too I would think

Was Bontcho Guenchev any good, is Ian Marshall pushing it?

I have 40 now but there must be way more

Ray Crawford
Ted Phillips
Trevor Whymark
Paul Mariner
John Wark
Arnold Muhren
Frans Thijssen
Alan Brazil
Eric Gates
David Johnson (1)
Darren Bent
Kieran Dyer
Terry Butcher
Kevin Beattie
Mick Mills
Matt Holland
Paul Cooper
Roy Bailey
Marcus Stewart
Bryan Hamilton
Colin Viljoen
George Burley
Tony Mowbray
Richard Wright
Billy Baxter
Danny Hegan
Frank Brogan
Jimmy Robertson
Billy Reed
Mauricio Tarrico
Tyrone Mings
Russell Osman
Alan Hunter
Brian Talbot
Jonathan Walters
Clive Woods
John Elsworthy
David Geddis
Dalian Atkinson
Darren Ambrose

Older posters than I speak very highly of this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Leadbetter

I insist that you add Steve McCall and Roger Osborne.

I personally would make a case for Steve Whitton, and think that Paul Goddard and Chris Kiwomya should be in there, too. Jason Dozzell played more top League games than Pukki, too.

From the Burley team:

Huckerby v Reuser?
Mark Venus? John McGreal?

And, probably the biggest omission so far of recent-ish players, JIM MAGILTON anyone?

Compare Kevin Wilson's career record with either of them, too.

Going further back, Romeo Zondervan knew how to play football.

Guenchev played in a World Cup Semi Final, didn't he? Ian Marshall is pushing it a bit, but then so is Pukki who scored most of his goals outside of the Prem.

50 is a stretch for us, though.

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:26 - May 10 with 2517 views

superblue70

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:21 - May 10 by ArnoldMoorhen

Micky Stockwell? Played nearly 100 prem games, scored a few from right back/ right mid as well.

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:33 - May 10 with 2493 views

You_Bloo_Right

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:21 - May 10 by ArnoldMoorhen

Leadbetter - the man who inspired the "wingless wonders".

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:42 - May 10 with 2483 views

bournemouthblue

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:00 - May 10 by Jon_456
Adam Webster

He's been quietly going about his business, does he still start for Brighton?

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bournemouthblue

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:12 - May 10 by BlueandTruesince82
Tommy Miller Martin Reuser Findi though perhaps whilst not town Gus Uhlenbeek Jason DeVos

Reuser I'd agree on

How tested was Miller in the Prem?

De Vos I really liked but didn't play Prem, did he play SPL?

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bournemouthblue

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:26 - May 10 by superblue70
Micky Stockwell? Played nearly 100 prem games, scored a few from right back/ right mid as well.

Good shout!

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:52 - May 10 with 2461 views

bournemouthblue

That's 47 currently and others say, there are many more, no doubt about it ðŸ˜‚

Ray Crawford
Ted Phillips
Trevor Whymark
Paul Mariner
John Wark
Arnold Muhren
Frans Thijssen
Alan Brazil
Eric Gates
David Johnson (1)
Darren Bent
Kieran Dyer
Terry Butcher
Kevin Beattie
Mick Mills
Matt Holland
Paul Cooper
Roy Bailey
Marcus Stewart
Bryan Hamilton
Colin Viljoen
George Burley
Tony Mowbray
Richard Wright
Billy Baxter
Danny Hegan
Frank Brogan
Jimmy Robertson
Billy Reed
Mauricio Tarrico
Tyrone Mings
Russell Osman
Alan Hunter
Brian Talbot
Jonathan Walters
Clive Woods
John Elsworthy
David Geddis
Dalian Atkinson
Darren Ambrose
Micky Stockwell
Jim Magilton
Jimmy Leadbetter
Bontcho Guenchev
Martijn Reuser
Kevin Wilson
Romeo Zondervan

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:52 - May 10 by bournemouthblue

Put Piotr Malarczyk on there just to take the piss

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:33 - May 10 by You_Bloo_Right
Leadbetter - the man who inspired the "wingless wonders".

And wouldn't have done so were it not for the fact that he was very good at it - think Arnold Muhren, but not moving very much, and definitely not heading the ball, which Muhren was actually quite good at.

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 09:19 - May 10 by Keno
Brain Talbot

Can’t see Allan Hunter’s name either.

Probably repeating but I’ll bung in Jimmy Leadbetter, Billy Baxter, Jimmy Robertson, Richard Naylor, Scowy, Micky Stockwell, Chris Kiwomya, Mathie, Goddard, Marshall, Graham Harbey.

Ok maybe not the Harbeymeister.

Edit: apols for the repeats. How about Diesel Morris, Derek Jefferson, David Best and Colin Harper. Oh, and which Norwich player scored the winner in an FA Cup Final? Let’s add Roger Osborne

[Post edited 10 May 2023 14:21]

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 14:58 - May 10 with 2387 views

rickw

I think they might argue Ambrose for one as he never really did it for long in the Prem and not for us.
How about Craig Forrest, 56 caps for Canada then played for Chelsea and West Ham after us oh and Cresswell too

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:33 - May 10 by You_Bloo_Right
Leadbetter - the man who inspired the "wingless wonders".

So he was the inspiration for England's World Cup win.

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 16:58 - May 10 with 2304 views

Kropotkin123

Would be stupid to suggest Pukki or Huckerby would be higher than anyone who won the league

1 Roy Bailey
2 Billy Baxter
3 Larry Carberry
4 John Compton
5 Andy Nelson
6 John Elsworthy
7 Jimmy Leadbetter
8 Roy Stephenson
9 Ray Crawford
10 Doug Moran
11 Ted Phillips

Likewise the UEFA Cup and finishing 2nd in the league

12 Paul Cooper
13 George Burley
14 Terry Butcher
15 Steve McCall
16 Mick Mills
17 Russell Osman
18 Arnold MÃ¼hren
19 Frans Thijssen
20 John Wark
21 Alan Brazil
22 Eric Gates
23 Paul Mariner

And none of them are better than the FA Cup players, so you can add

23 Brian Talbot
24 Allan Hunter
25 Kevin Beattie
26 Roger Osborne
27 David Geddis
28 Clive Woods

Other notable players when Ipswich finished in the top six for 9/10 seasons

29 Bryan Hamilton
30 Trevor Whymark
31 David Johnson (1)
32 Colin Viljoen

Significant players that contributed to us finishing 5th under Burley

33 Richard Wright
34 Fabian Wilnis
35 Jamie Clapham
36 John McGreal
37 Mark Venus
38 Titus Bramble
39 Hermann HreiÃ°arsson
40 Jim Magilton
41 Matt Holland
42 Martijn Reuser
43 James Scowcroft
44 Marcus Stewart

Better players from Lyall's team
45 Craig Forrest
46 David Linighan
47 Simon Milton
48 Mick Stockwell
49 Jason Dozzell
50 Chris Kiwomya

Better players that I'm excluding because I think their achievements were elsewhere
- Dalian Atkinson
- Darren Bent
- Kieran Dyer
- Jonathon Walters
- Tyrone Mings
- Aaron Creswell
- Mauricio Taricco

I looked at Pukki and honestly, 22 goals across to dreadful relegation seasons is pretty bad. So there could be arguments for many more.

Eg, Marshall, Zondervan, Mogga, etc. No doubt I've missed some important players from the Robson era.

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:42 - May 10 by bournemouthblue
He's been quietly going about his business, does he still start for Brighton?

108 premier league apps so 50% more than Pukki has managed

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 16:58 - May 10 by Kropotkin123

Now that, indubitably, was an afternoon well spent!

Very solid work. Have an apple.

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:42 - May 10 by bournemouthblue
He's been quietly going about his business, does he still start for Brighton?

Yep. Started in their recent 5-1 thrashing by Everton. I saw him the other week when they were on Sky - can’t remember which match, but he seemed fine. Very much quietly going about his business. Over 100 PL appearances for them now.

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 15:05 - May 10 by solemio
So he was the inspiration for England's World Cup win.

As Sir Alf himself said of Leadbetter, “Yes, he was Scottish, but I owed him so much.”

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 17:55 - May 10 with 2227 views

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 13:52 - May 10 by bournemouthblue

Don't forget the forever underrated Paul Mason.

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50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 16:58 - May 10 by Kropotkin123

[Post edited 10 May 2023 19:15]

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StokieBlue

Can't see Reuser in any of these lists, surely an oversight?

Don't remember Pukki and Huckerby starting matches in the same side as this lot, just look at it!

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/afc-ajax/1995/2/

SB

Edit: Jumped the gun - brain failed to register that pages 2 and 3 existed.

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gazzer1999

So let's ask a budgie fan to name 50 better players than Kevin Beattie and Paul Mariner. or Arnie and Franz.

I don't get why it's Pukki and Huckerby? on 19:25 - May 10 with 2173 views

Dyland

Pukki fine, he's just left, and I get why he has cult status. Huckerby was years ago though, why are they talking about him in the same breath as Pukki? These can't be their two best ever players in their fans' eyes? I mean... really...?

EDIT: Is there a caveat somewhere, like best players in the last twenty or whatever years...?

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Dyland

50 Ipswich Players better than Pukki and Huckerby on 19:22 - May 10 by StokieBlue
Can't see Reuser in any of these lists, surely an oversight? Don't remember Pukki and Huckerby starting matches in the same side as this lot, just look at it! https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/afc-ajax/1995/2/ SB Edit: Jumped the gun - brain failed to register that pages 2 and 3 existed. [Post edited 10 May 2023 19:23]

The evidence was there before your eyes if you only cared to dig a little deeper.

:)

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