| Lee Evans 06:02 - Jun 27 with 6714 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
So many people on Twitter saying we should sell Evans, he's not a CS midfielder and too injury prone etc.
I just don't get it. IMO he was one of our best performers before his knee injury against Derby and he's played nearly 60 matches for ITFC in total.
I know Mass transformed our midfield and Jack Taylor hasn't joined to sit on the bench, but we'll need at least 4 CMs.
4/5 of our 9 central midfielders will probably leave or be loaned out, but I think people have short memories when it comes to discussing Evans.
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| Lee Evans on 06:18 - Jun 27 with 4749 views | RIPbobby |
Absolutely beautiful footballer. Always has a part to play. None of the others can pick a pass like him. Class. |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 06:28 - Jun 27 with 4714 views | franz_tyson |
Can we afford him to be out for half the the season? Even though he's a big unit, I find him a bit sluggish and not as dynamic as a Morsy or a Luongo. Think he's an obvious one to move on with his injury history. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 06:31 - Jun 27 with 4692 views | EssexBloo |
Decent player but he’s well down the list now. It’s a sign of our progression and improvement. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 06:31 - Jun 27 with 4679 views | PioneerBlue |
It’s the maths, we probably need to get to 5 CMs we have 6 recognised CMs (excluding El Miz, Harper and E Miz). We probably need to get to 6 Attackers we have 7 recognised Attackers, this is without adding or improving the Attackers with new players and that doesn’t leave any space for a new Striker unless we go with 2 and cast Ahadme aside.
There are now a few decisions required if we are to free up additions, ignoring likes of Pigott. Evans, Camera, Ball are going to be considering their game time. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 21:40]
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| Lee Evans on 06:42 - Jun 27 with 4646 views | mkbobby |
Great passer but I just felt he slowed our game down and couldn’t tackle for toffee & turned like the titanic , time to move on |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 06:54 - Jun 27 with 4588 views | tractorboy1978 |
A decent enough player but has a poor injury record over a number of seasons and isn't mobile enough to play in a two in a Championship midfield. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 06:58 - Jun 27 with 4516 views | CityBlue |
Statistically the best MF in L1 before his injury |  |
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| Lee Evans on 07:10 - Jun 27 with 4445 views | Herbivore |
He's a tidy footballer, although he looked massively off it when he came back from injury before then getting injured again. Thing is, we've now seen how playing with a more dynamic box to box midfielder in Luongo has really helped us to up our game and it's shown up Evans' limitations in comparison. He's not mobile enough and that means he doesn't get past the last man like Luongo did on many occasions and it also means he gives away a lot of free kicks by being unable to get to him man in time to break play up legally. He also slows play down as he likes to take a couple of touches before passing it. He's by no means a bad player, but with his injury record thrown in as well is he really what we need in the Championship? Not for me. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 7:40]
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| Lee Evans on 07:25 - Jun 27 with 4366 views | Dubtractor |
| Lee Evans on 07:10 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
He's a tidy footballer, although he looked massively off it when he came back from injury before then getting injured again. Thing is, we've now seen how playing with a more dynamic box to box midfielder in Luongo has really helped us to up our game and it's shown up Evans' limitations in comparison. He's not mobile enough and that means he doesn't get past the last man like Luongo did on many occasions and it also means he gives away a lot of free kicks by being unable to get to him man in time to break play up legally. He also slows play down as he likes to take a couple of touches before passing it. He's by no means a bad player, but with his injury record thrown in as well is he really what we need in the Championship? Not for me. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 7:40]
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Agree with all of that. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 07:30 - Jun 27 with 4331 views | Horsham |
| Lee Evans on 07:25 - Jun 27 by Dubtractor |
Agree with all of that. |
I do other than a slight point that when Evans and Morsy were the pairing, Morsy played the box to box role and Evans maybe sat a bit deeper but when Morsy and Luongo were paired Morsy sat more and Luongo got forward more. I think the fairer comparison is Evans v Morsy as the sitter. Morsy comes out on top there too so the conclusion is the same. |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 07:33 - Jun 27 with 4304 views | DanTheMan |
| Lee Evans on 07:10 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
He's a tidy footballer, although he looked massively off it when he came back from injury before then getting injured again. Thing is, we've now seen how playing with a more dynamic box to box midfielder in Luongo has really helped us to up our game and it's shown up Evans' limitations in comparison. He's not mobile enough and that means he doesn't get past the last man like Luongo did on many occasions and it also means he gives away a lot of free kicks by being unable to get to him man in time to break play up legally. He also slows play down as he likes to take a couple of touches before passing it. He's by no means a bad player, but with his injury record thrown in as well is he really what we need in the Championship? Not for me. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 7:40]
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Spot on. Think his knees being made of glass is the biggest issue for me. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 08:05 - Jun 27 with 4114 views | Steve_M |
| Lee Evans on 07:10 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
He's a tidy footballer, although he looked massively off it when he came back from injury before then getting injured again. Thing is, we've now seen how playing with a more dynamic box to box midfielder in Luongo has really helped us to up our game and it's shown up Evans' limitations in comparison. He's not mobile enough and that means he doesn't get past the last man like Luongo did on many occasions and it also means he gives away a lot of free kicks by being unable to get to him man in time to break play up legally. He also slows play down as he likes to take a couple of touches before passing it. He's by no means a bad player, but with his injury record thrown in as well is he really what we need in the Championship? Not for me. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 7:40]
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Yep, in addition Evans' form had tailed off by the time he got injured. A very good six weeks or so at the start of the season but that's pretty much it after two seasons.
Him and Morsy as a partnership in some of those tight away games in Jan and Feb was a big part of the reason we weren't good enough, far too slow and wanting to keep the ball too long. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 08:24 - Jun 27 with 3997 views | textbackup |
Think he’d be too slow, and predictable, in the championship. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 08:36 - Jun 27 with 3912 views | homer_123 |
He can play, no question at all.
For me, he's not dynamic enough. He's not quick enough off the ball or with the ball, he lacks pace and isn't strong enough.
For me, at the moment, we have Morsy and Luongo and now Taylor. I cannot see Evans starting ahead of any of those three. Camara, now, for me, if it were a choice between the two, I'd keep Camara over Evans. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 08:43 - Jun 27 with 3877 views | StokieBlue |
He was good at the start of the season before his injury.
However I think the tail end of the season highlighted that he maybe slows us down too much and that we were a better unit with someone like Massimo in the centre.
I think if a decent offer comes in he will likely be sold.
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| Lee Evans on 08:44 - Jun 27 with 3860 views | chicoazul |
Evans has proven he can’t cut it in the Championship. Lovely player when it’s moving at his speed mind you, but he won’t have that luxury now. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 08:50 - Jun 27 with 3823 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
No chance we're letting him go. He's a different kind of player to anything we have in our midfield, and on his day, he's one of our very best players. I think realistically we'll be going with this:
Keep:
Morsy
Luongo
Taylor
Evans
Camara (but ease him in gradually first half of the season)
Loan:
Humphreys
El Mizouni
Sell:
Ball
Harper
In the sell column, I would still have a question-mark next to Ball, as he's a very versatile player who can also be utilised as a centre-back. Right now, that's not a position that we have tonnes of depth with, so potentially he could be kept to cover, but I don't see him getting a game in midfield. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 09:00 - Jun 27 with 3750 views | the_toff |
He's had about 2 good months for us in 2 years. Has struggled with injuries his whole career, even when fit he's fairly immobile and IMO tends to slow the play down too much. His set pieces and delivery is good though, I will give him that. I just don't see a world where he gets back in our side now though. Move him on. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 09:03 - Jun 27 with 3725 views | BondiBlue |
| Lee Evans on 06:42 - Jun 27 by mkbobby |
Great passer but I just felt he slowed our game down and couldn’t tackle for toffee & turned like the titanic , time to move on |
We used to say the same about jim magilton. Word for word. Not trying to make a point, just noticed the similar language. | |
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| Lee Evans on 09:09 - Jun 27 with 3702 views | Steve_M |
| Lee Evans on 09:03 - Jun 27 by BondiBlue |
We used to say the same about jim magilton. Word for word. Not trying to make a point, just noticed the similar language. |
Yes, but Jim was an excellent player, probably just lacking the pace to be a very good Premier League midfielder. | |
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| Lee Evans on 09:12 - Jun 27 with 3655 views | the_toff |
| Lee Evans on 09:09 - Jun 27 by Steve_M |
Yes, but Jim was an excellent player, probably just lacking the pace to be a very good Premier League midfielder. |
What Jim did well he did of a much higher standard than Evans. Plus the game has moved on a lot in 20 years. Evans doesn't have the physicality or athleticism you would want from a partner to Morsy. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 09:14 - Jun 27 with 3639 views | BondiBlue |
| Lee Evans on 09:09 - Jun 27 by Steve_M |
Yes, but Jim was an excellent player, probably just lacking the pace to be a very good Premier League midfielder. |
"Not trying to make a point" | |
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| Lee Evans on 09:14 - Jun 27 with 3648 views | LankHenners |
| Lee Evans on 07:10 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
He's a tidy footballer, although he looked massively off it when he came back from injury before then getting injured again. Thing is, we've now seen how playing with a more dynamic box to box midfielder in Luongo has really helped us to up our game and it's shown up Evans' limitations in comparison. He's not mobile enough and that means he doesn't get past the last man like Luongo did on many occasions and it also means he gives away a lot of free kicks by being unable to get to him man in time to break play up legally. He also slows play down as he likes to take a couple of touches before passing it. He's by no means a bad player, but with his injury record thrown in as well is he really what we need in the Championship? Not for me. [Post edited 27 Jun 2023 7:40]
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Yep, always thought he was overhyped when he was playing as it was - all the ‘highest rated midfielder in the league’ stuff was a bit silly as it was based on the flawed WhoScored ratings system which essentially means if you’re a midfielder who passes the ball a lot in a team that wins and doesn’t concede many you bank a high rating regardless of actual performance.
As you say, given how much better we looked with a player of Luongo’s qualities it seems bonkers to me that people are holding him up as an important player. If we can find a buyer for him we should sell and I think we will. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 09:14 - Jun 27 with 3641 views | Big_Jase |
Can’t run and and can’t tackle. Can spray a ball about when people are sitting behind the ball, but he’s nowhere near good enough for the standard required in this league.
I still think people are going to be surprised how ruthless town are going to be in letting players go and recruiting. There will be a few “shock” departures and replacements. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 09:16 - Jun 27 with 3622 views | BondiBlue |
FWIW i think mckenna will keep him, as no-one else can do what he does. | |
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