| Ronnie Edwards 19:44 - Aug 13 with 5560 views | Nutkins_Return |
What is happening with him? Are Peterborough holding out for silly money. Assumed he was heading to Prem as strongly linked. Worth us going for him? Very high potential and already has a lot games under his belt.
Get him in with Baggott going other way on loan? |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 19:57 - Aug 13 with 4837 views | ITFCBlues |
Yeah, I can see us spending 8-10m on him |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 20:01 - Aug 13 with 4812 views | Herbivore |
| Ronnie Edwards on 19:57 - Aug 13 by ITFCBlues |
Yeah, I can see us spending 8-10m on him |
There is zero chance Peterborough get that much for a League 1 CB. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 21:53 - Aug 13 with 4395 views | NeedhamChris |
| Ronnie Edwards on 20:01 - Aug 13 by Herbivore |
There is zero chance Peterborough get that much for a League 1 CB. |
If you add in potential add ons and sell ons, they should manage it. | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 22:04 - Aug 13 with 4301 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Offer them 3m with add ins, plus Kyle Edwards transfer and baggott or Humphreys on main for the season. |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 22:21 - Aug 13 with 4189 views | tractordownsouth |
Was thinking about this the other day, the only way we'd get him is on loan after he's bought by a top team.
As good as he is though, I don't think he's what we need. He and Woolfenden are very similar and we should be looking for a more traditional defender to play in that role. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 00:18 - Aug 14 with 3882 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ronnie Edwards on 20:01 - Aug 13 by Herbivore |
There is zero chance Peterborough get that much for a League 1 CB. |
Palace had a 7.5m bid rejected last summer, so clearly PL clubs would pay circa that figure for a England youth international! | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 05:21 - Aug 14 with 3693 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Ronnie Edwards on 00:18 - Aug 14 by ITFCBlues |
Palace had a 7.5m bid rejected last summer, so clearly PL clubs would pay circa that figure for a England youth international! |
That offer was reported as being “could be up to” something of that magnitude. Don’t think P’boro would be turning down straight cash of anything like that amount. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 07:46 - Aug 14 with 3427 views | Kieran_Knows |
Would love for us to sign him. Said it several times but really hoping Ashton can sign him like he did Webster from us during his time at Bristol City and then sell Edwards on for a healthy bit of profit! |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 08:01 - Aug 14 with 3338 views | Herbivore |
| Ronnie Edwards on 21:53 - Aug 13 by NeedhamChris |
If you add in potential add ons and sell ons, they should manage it. |
Possibly, I'm still sceptical though. It would be a record fee for a League 1 player. | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 09:23 - Aug 14 with 3077 views | Churchman |
Is he that good? Is he worth the kind of money talked about on here, given he’s a League One player? Genuinely asking because I’ve not noticed him and know nothing about him bar what Wiki says.
As for Baggott, he’s the same age, good size and from what I’ve seen looks a real prospect. Regarding our players, it’s noticeable how fast we are to bin them. I’ve heard how Burgess and Woolfenden are not up to Championship standard, yet I assume the same people think Edwards is?
The reality is Woolfenden is up to Championship standard. He was immense Saturday. And Burgess wasn’t too far behind. Brave, big, mobile, he got caught out a couple of times first half but stepped up. I genuinely believe they’re good enough.
I heard on here all about vulnerability on the turn etc. Well, the two Stoke meatheads were nothing special. They managed to shackle Hirst pretty well, but one of them looked like he had cement boots when Jackson drifted off him for the second goal.
In conclusion, we don’t need Edwards. We could do with a high quality experienced CH for when things get tougher - if FFP stretches to it, the player is prepared to buy in to what we are doing and if anyone is available. If not, stay with what we have and see how they go until new year is my take on it.. |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:44 - Aug 14 with 2953 views | Guthrum |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:23 - Aug 14 by Churchman |
Is he that good? Is he worth the kind of money talked about on here, given he’s a League One player? Genuinely asking because I’ve not noticed him and know nothing about him bar what Wiki says.
As for Baggott, he’s the same age, good size and from what I’ve seen looks a real prospect. Regarding our players, it’s noticeable how fast we are to bin them. I’ve heard how Burgess and Woolfenden are not up to Championship standard, yet I assume the same people think Edwards is?
The reality is Woolfenden is up to Championship standard. He was immense Saturday. And Burgess wasn’t too far behind. Brave, big, mobile, he got caught out a couple of times first half but stepped up. I genuinely believe they’re good enough.
I heard on here all about vulnerability on the turn etc. Well, the two Stoke meatheads were nothing special. They managed to shackle Hirst pretty well, but one of them looked like he had cement boots when Jackson drifted off him for the second goal.
In conclusion, we don’t need Edwards. We could do with a high quality experienced CH for when things get tougher - if FFP stretches to it, the player is prepared to buy in to what we are doing and if anyone is available. If not, stay with what we have and see how they go until new year is my take on it.. |
I would guess that the future sale margin on a defender at the kind of price being bandied around is pretty slim, given the risk of so large an investment.
I agree entirely that anyone replacing our already pretty decent CBs (we've conceded just one goal so far*) would have to be a marked strengthening, not like-for-like. That or somebody with a lot of experience, to steady and develop our current players - similar to Keogh.
* Against a team which made the play-offs in May and one tipped for success after a good summer transfer window. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 09:57 - Aug 14 with 2881 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:44 - Aug 14 by Guthrum |
I would guess that the future sale margin on a defender at the kind of price being bandied around is pretty slim, given the risk of so large an investment.
I agree entirely that anyone replacing our already pretty decent CBs (we've conceded just one goal so far*) would have to be a marked strengthening, not like-for-like. That or somebody with a lot of experience, to steady and develop our current players - similar to Keogh.
* Against a team which made the play-offs in May and one tipped for success after a good summer transfer window. |
Pretty slim? He's a regular for England U20s - Webster went for £25m and never had that sort of pedigree. One good season in the Championship with his background and you are looking at a minimum of that sort of price. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:19 - Aug 14 with 2777 views | Guthrum |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:57 - Aug 14 by tractorboy1978 |
Pretty slim? He's a regular for England U20s - Webster went for £25m and never had that sort of pedigree. One good season in the Championship with his background and you are looking at a minimum of that sort of price. |
That is rather more money than I thought a young defender would go for.
And we do have the bloke who made the Webster deal here. | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 10:30 - Aug 14 with 2684 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:57 - Aug 14 by tractorboy1978 |
Pretty slim? He's a regular for England U20s - Webster went for £25m and never had that sort of pedigree. One good season in the Championship with his background and you are looking at a minimum of that sort of price. |
Difference being Webster had shown he was very capable of playing at this level and was half the price.
8m for a L1 CB is just never going to happen | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 10:39 - Aug 14 with 2620 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:30 - Aug 14 by ITFCBlues |
Difference being Webster had shown he was very capable of playing at this level and was half the price.
8m for a L1 CB is just never going to happen |
It's a very rare scenario really. You don't often get somebody from a third tier club playing regularly for England at that sort of age group, i.e more senior youth level. Dele Alli is the last one that springs to mind.
I don't think he will go for that price now - not up front anyway. I'd imagine the big discrepancy between Peterborough's valuation of him and linked Prem club's valuations is why he still hasn't moved. As far as doing a deal is concerned Peterborough/MacAnthony are probably the worst L1 club to have to negotiate with as well. You'd think something has to give before the end of this window.
Only way we could get him is if we were more willing to back his ability and potential (with size of fee) than a PL club. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:50 - Aug 14 with 2554 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:39 - Aug 14 by tractorboy1978 |
It's a very rare scenario really. You don't often get somebody from a third tier club playing regularly for England at that sort of age group, i.e more senior youth level. Dele Alli is the last one that springs to mind.
I don't think he will go for that price now - not up front anyway. I'd imagine the big discrepancy between Peterborough's valuation of him and linked Prem club's valuations is why he still hasn't moved. As far as doing a deal is concerned Peterborough/MacAnthony are probably the worst L1 club to have to negotiate with as well. You'd think something has to give before the end of this window.
Only way we could get him is if we were more willing to back his ability and potential (with size of fee) than a PL club. |
Maybe, but we've not shown any willingness thus far to pay big fees so I just don't see this happening.
Also need to consider, is this the type of player we need right now? We've already got a fairly inexperienced bunch of CB's, does adding Edwards really help with this? | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 10:50 - Aug 14 with 2549 views | the_toff |
Ronnie Pickering? Who? | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 11:10 - Aug 14 with 2453 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:50 - Aug 14 by ITFCBlues |
Maybe, but we've not shown any willingness thus far to pay big fees so I just don't see this happening.
Also need to consider, is this the type of player we need right now? We've already got a fairly inexperienced bunch of CB's, does adding Edwards really help with this? |
I think we just need someone that is good to be honest irrespective of age or masses of Championship experience. Edwards has played a season at this level anyway and did well by all accounts.
If you can get someone that can do everything McKenna wants them to do and they come with potential huge resale value - great.
Burgess is going to be very hard to displace on the first two games viewing anyway! | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 11:54 - Aug 14 with 2281 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:23 - Aug 14 by Churchman |
Is he that good? Is he worth the kind of money talked about on here, given he’s a League One player? Genuinely asking because I’ve not noticed him and know nothing about him bar what Wiki says.
As for Baggott, he’s the same age, good size and from what I’ve seen looks a real prospect. Regarding our players, it’s noticeable how fast we are to bin them. I’ve heard how Burgess and Woolfenden are not up to Championship standard, yet I assume the same people think Edwards is?
The reality is Woolfenden is up to Championship standard. He was immense Saturday. And Burgess wasn’t too far behind. Brave, big, mobile, he got caught out a couple of times first half but stepped up. I genuinely believe they’re good enough.
I heard on here all about vulnerability on the turn etc. Well, the two Stoke meatheads were nothing special. They managed to shackle Hirst pretty well, but one of them looked like he had cement boots when Jackson drifted off him for the second goal.
In conclusion, we don’t need Edwards. We could do with a high quality experienced CH for when things get tougher - if FFP stretches to it, the player is prepared to buy in to what we are doing and if anyone is available. If not, stay with what we have and see how they go until new year is my take on it.. |
Yes he is that good.
One of the best young defenders in the country |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:06 - Aug 14 with 2223 views | itfcjoe |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:30 - Aug 14 by ITFCBlues |
Difference being Webster had shown he was very capable of playing at this level and was half the price.
8m for a L1 CB is just never going to happen |
He's not going to be £8m, and Darragh likes to spin a yarn re previously rejected bids.
Would be a fantastic signing if could get him in that £3m range |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:10 - Aug 14 with 2123 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
If you're going to spend that money on him then he's going to need the minutes to justify it. Based on Woolfenden and Burgess so far, it's hard to see where he gets those minutes.
Can he play right back? I know he played in a 3 at Peterborough for a while, and was the central of the 3 too. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:15 - Aug 14 with 2074 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ronnie Edwards on 09:23 - Aug 14 by Churchman |
Is he that good? Is he worth the kind of money talked about on here, given he’s a League One player? Genuinely asking because I’ve not noticed him and know nothing about him bar what Wiki says.
As for Baggott, he’s the same age, good size and from what I’ve seen looks a real prospect. Regarding our players, it’s noticeable how fast we are to bin them. I’ve heard how Burgess and Woolfenden are not up to Championship standard, yet I assume the same people think Edwards is?
The reality is Woolfenden is up to Championship standard. He was immense Saturday. And Burgess wasn’t too far behind. Brave, big, mobile, he got caught out a couple of times first half but stepped up. I genuinely believe they’re good enough.
I heard on here all about vulnerability on the turn etc. Well, the two Stoke meatheads were nothing special. They managed to shackle Hirst pretty well, but one of them looked like he had cement boots when Jackson drifted off him for the second goal.
In conclusion, we don’t need Edwards. We could do with a high quality experienced CH for when things get tougher - if FFP stretches to it, the player is prepared to buy in to what we are doing and if anyone is available. If not, stay with what we have and see how they go until new year is my take on it.. |
I’ve heard how Burgess and Woolfenden are not up to Championship standard, yet I assume the same people think Edwards is? '
Who has said Woolfenden (in particular) is not up to Championship standard, ffs? You'd have to be a complete footballing moron to think Woolfenden is not up to Championship standard! |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:15 - Aug 14 with 2070 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:06 - Aug 14 by itfcjoe |
He's not going to be £8m, and Darragh likes to spin a yarn re previously rejected bids.
Would be a fantastic signing if could get him in that £3m range |
Would they sell for 3m? Would we even pay 3m? | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:20 - Aug 14 with 2015 views | ReusersTown |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:06 - Aug 14 by itfcjoe |
He's not going to be £8m, and Darragh likes to spin a yarn re previously rejected bids.
Would be a fantastic signing if could get him in that £3m range |
I could see him going for the 3 - 3.5m bracket too, which i would be happy ebough with. People are getting carried away again, probably the same ones determined that Hirst would be 4.5m. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:22 - Aug 14 with 2003 views | Parky |
No chance. | | | |
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