| Huge win for Labour in Scotland 06:46 - Oct 6 with 16345 views | GlasgowBlue |
Nationalists imploding. Tory collapse. Labour majority at the next election.
After years of mediocre leadership, Scottish Labour has been revitalised by Anas Sarwar, who is like a breath of fresh air.
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 with 1539 views | Darth_Koont |
Disappointing but hardly a surprise. Given the villainous Tories setting the mood music and an incumbent SNP government who certainly have had some self-inflicted damage from internal disagreements but have their hands largely tied on how to mitigate against the damage caused by inadequate right-wing UK governments.
Meanwhile Labour need no answers or policies as they coast along with scant media scrutiny. I don’t see the same easy path at a general election, certainly in Scotland where they will have to state their case for government much more clearly and answer for it.
At the moment, people can project onto Labour almost anything they want. Like them being in any way progressive and not committed to the status quo and propping up the failing neoliberal settlement.
But seeing a life-long Tory, Brexiteer and anti-social democracy right-winger like you celebrating should set off an alarm bell. 😬 |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:12 - Oct 6 with 1531 views | usm |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:48 - Oct 6 by eireblue |
An observation would be, the turnout was x%.
Another observation could be, x% turnout is higher/lower/similar to recent turnouts of w%, y%,z%
Adding the term “inspiring” is just an expression of opinion. |
Hardly Pearl Harbour though was it |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:18 - Oct 6 with 1512 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Disappointing but hardly a surprise. Given the villainous Tories setting the mood music and an incumbent SNP government who certainly have had some self-inflicted damage from internal disagreements but have their hands largely tied on how to mitigate against the damage caused by inadequate right-wing UK governments.
Meanwhile Labour need no answers or policies as they coast along with scant media scrutiny. I don’t see the same easy path at a general election, certainly in Scotland where they will have to state their case for government much more clearly and answer for it.
At the moment, people can project onto Labour almost anything they want. Like them being in any way progressive and not committed to the status quo and propping up the failing neoliberal settlement.
But seeing a life-long Tory, Brexiteer and anti-social democracy right-winger like you celebrating should set off an alarm bell. 😬 |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:25 - Oct 6 with 1480 views | Zapers |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Disappointing but hardly a surprise. Given the villainous Tories setting the mood music and an incumbent SNP government who certainly have had some self-inflicted damage from internal disagreements but have their hands largely tied on how to mitigate against the damage caused by inadequate right-wing UK governments.
Meanwhile Labour need no answers or policies as they coast along with scant media scrutiny. I don’t see the same easy path at a general election, certainly in Scotland where they will have to state their case for government much more clearly and answer for it.
At the moment, people can project onto Labour almost anything they want. Like them being in any way progressive and not committed to the status quo and propping up the failing neoliberal settlement.
But seeing a life-long Tory, Brexiteer and anti-social democracy right-winger like you celebrating should set off an alarm bell. 😬 |
' some self inflicted damage from internal disagreements'
I thought Nicola Sturgeon was external damage, self inflicted! |  | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:28 - Oct 6 with 1471 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:25 - Oct 6 by Zapers |
' some self inflicted damage from internal disagreements'
I thought Nicola Sturgeon was external damage, self inflicted! |
He seems to have forgotten that the previous MP was dismissed for breaking lockdown laws at the height of the pandemic, the corruption of the Ferries contracts and the three main players in the SNP being arrested by the police. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 10:33]
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:38 - Oct 6 with 1446 views | Zapers |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:28 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
He seems to have forgotten that the previous MP was dismissed for breaking lockdown laws at the height of the pandemic, the corruption of the Ferries contracts and the three main players in the SNP being arrested by the police. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 10:33]
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Yes, but who cares about facts when you are on a mission! | | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:46 - Oct 6 with 1438 views | Guthrum |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:39 - Oct 6 by baxterbasics |
If Labour are able to win back ground form the SNP in Scotland, that should be their majority guaranteed in the coming GE. |
The chief reson Labour struggled from 2015 on was the SNP mopping up most of the seats north of the border. Left too much to do elsewhere, especially when small-c conservative northern Englanders turned as well. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:53 - Oct 6 with 1430 views | Darth_Koont |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:18 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
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Only I’m not deluded am I?
What have I said that is wrong? | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:53 - Oct 6 with 1429 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Disappointing but hardly a surprise. Given the villainous Tories setting the mood music and an incumbent SNP government who certainly have had some self-inflicted damage from internal disagreements but have their hands largely tied on how to mitigate against the damage caused by inadequate right-wing UK governments.
Meanwhile Labour need no answers or policies as they coast along with scant media scrutiny. I don’t see the same easy path at a general election, certainly in Scotland where they will have to state their case for government much more clearly and answer for it.
At the moment, people can project onto Labour almost anything they want. Like them being in any way progressive and not committed to the status quo and propping up the failing neoliberal settlement.
But seeing a life-long Tory, Brexiteer and anti-social democracy right-winger like you celebrating should set off an alarm bell. 😬 |
Wonder how many more sweeping election victories it will take before you stop making excuses and insisting the next one will be different? |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:07 - Oct 6 with 1406 views | Darth_Koont |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:28 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
He seems to have forgotten that the previous MP was dismissed for breaking lockdown laws at the height of the pandemic, the corruption of the Ferries contracts and the three main players in the SNP being arrested by the police. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 10:33]
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Not really.
But if Ferrier had an effect despite the SNP immediately asking her to step down and suspending her with a view to getting her out of the party then that’s good. Ditto the circus around the police inquiry that has led nowhere of consequence.
What corruption around the ferries’ contracts? Again, accusations don’t mean anything without the evidence to back them up. In the real world at least.
But thanks, it’s a much less disappointing result than I thought if this stuff was characteristic of the campaign. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:09 - Oct 6 with 1400 views | Darth_Koont |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:53 - Oct 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Wonder how many more sweeping election victories it will take before you stop making excuses and insisting the next one will be different? |
Eh? 😀 | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:10 - Oct 6 with 1398 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Disappointing but hardly a surprise. Given the villainous Tories setting the mood music and an incumbent SNP government who certainly have had some self-inflicted damage from internal disagreements but have their hands largely tied on how to mitigate against the damage caused by inadequate right-wing UK governments.
Meanwhile Labour need no answers or policies as they coast along with scant media scrutiny. I don’t see the same easy path at a general election, certainly in Scotland where they will have to state their case for government much more clearly and answer for it.
At the moment, people can project onto Labour almost anything they want. Like them being in any way progressive and not committed to the status quo and propping up the failing neoliberal settlement.
But seeing a life-long Tory, Brexiteer and anti-social democracy right-winger like you celebrating should set off an alarm bell. 😬 |
It's not entirely fair to describe Glasgow as an "anti- social democracy right-winger"
Glasgow is anti-racist, anti-anti-semite and generally espouses "One Nation" Toryism.
He just enables the anti- social democracy right-wingers.
Again and again. | | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:20 - Oct 6 with 1372 views | Darth_Koont |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:10 - Oct 6 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's not entirely fair to describe Glasgow as an "anti- social democracy right-winger"
Glasgow is anti-racist, anti-anti-semite and generally espouses "One Nation" Toryism.
He just enables the anti- social democracy right-wingers.
Again and again. |
Hmmm. No comment. 😀
Certainly agree with your net result which is the critical point. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:22 - Oct 6 with 1370 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:20 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Hmmm. No comment. 😀
Certainly agree with your net result which is the critical point. |
Your constand slavish support for "he who must not be mentioned" has certainly enabled the likes of Johnson and Truss, that's for sure. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:27 - Oct 6 with 1328 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:50 - Oct 6 by giant_stow |
Precisely. |
If that is all you meant then I'm surprised you didn’t take issue with GB's use of "huge!"
But anyway, GB's new conservative party won....hurrah. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:29 - Oct 6 with 1318 views | Darth_Koont |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:22 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Your constand slavish support for "he who must not be mentioned" has certainly enabled the likes of Johnson and Truss, that's for sure. |
I defended him against lies and smeary accusations. Of course, I also support the policies as a necessary and welcome change in direction for a country that’s increasingly struggling to look after its own citizens and their future.
You and the other shy and not so shy right-wingers delivered Johnson and Truss. Let’s be honest here. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:30 - Oct 6 with 1301 views | Darth_Koont |
Yes, please! That looks hilarious. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:31 - Oct 6 with 1303 views | blueasfook |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:29 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
I defended him against lies and smeary accusations. Of course, I also support the policies as a necessary and welcome change in direction for a country that’s increasingly struggling to look after its own citizens and their future.
You and the other shy and not so shy right-wingers delivered Johnson and Truss. Let’s be honest here. |
If that's the case, what happened with the Red Wall voters who deserted Corbyn's Labour party in their millions?
As GB says, you are utterly deluded. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:32 - Oct 6 with 1296 views | Ryorry |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:39 - Oct 6 by baxterbasics |
If Labour are able to win back ground form the SNP in Scotland, that should be their majority guaranteed in the coming GE. |
Dangerous to take anything for granted though, complacency is an issue too. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:32 - Oct 6 with 1296 views | blueasfook |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:30 - Oct 6 by Darth_Koont |
Yes, please! That looks hilarious. |
It is quite funny. I wonder how many have been sold? | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:35 - Oct 6 with 1280 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:32 - Oct 6 by blueasfook |
It is quite funny. I wonder how many have been sold? |
Do they not have one of John McDonnell waving his little red book around? | | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:36 - Oct 6 with 1279 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:31 - Oct 6 by blueasfook |
If that's the case, what happened with the Red Wall voters who deserted Corbyn's Labour party in their millions?
As GB says, you are utterly deluded. |
Credit where credit is due. Corbyn was the only person who was able to persuade former miners in Bolsover to brave the torrential rain and cold in the middle of December in order to vote Tory.
A remarkable achievement. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:40 - Oct 6 with 1255 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 07:29 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
In other election news....
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/06/labour-seeking-delay-antisemiti
"Labour is seeking to delay until after the general election a court case against five former staff alleging they leaked a report concerned with the party’s handling of antisemitism complaints, as its costs were said to have apparently soared to £1.4m.
The lawsuit concerns the 2020 leak of an 860-page document that claimed factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn contributed to the party’s ineffective handling of such complaints.
Proposing a trial date no earlier than 28 February 2025, almost five years after the leak, the party has claimed it would be “unfair and inappropriate” to have to go to trial while it runs a general election campaign."
How unfair might it be to fight an election with party machinery running against you I wonder! |
I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this!
....not! | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:43 - Oct 6 with 1250 views | blueasfook |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 11:36 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Credit where credit is due. Corbyn was the only person who was able to persuade former miners in Bolsover to brave the torrential rain and cold in the middle of December in order to vote Tory.
A remarkable achievement. |
Boris couldn't have wished for a better opponent really. With Corbyn in opposition, you have a 200 seat head start basically. | |
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