| Paul Lambert 2025 19:28 - Oct 15 with 7329 views | TresBonne |
I still remember being in the car on the way to Wycombe away and seeing that Paul Lambert had signed a five year deal.
We were already struggling in L1 at the time weren't we?! Bonkers that we'd have another two years left of the guy at a minimum, even now... |  | | |  |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 19:35 - Oct 15 with 5081 views | Perublue |
It was and is for another 2 years a sick joke final bantz F U Ipswich from Evans … getting as much as we did for Bramble from Newcastle only comes close to ridiculousness. |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 20:25 - Oct 15 with 4895 views | MK1 |
Managers in all walks of life get rewarded for failure.
Bank managers, Government ministers etc.
José Mourinho has been paid £93.5million in sacking payments alone.
But yes, Lambert didn't deserve an extra year, let alone 5. |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 with 4777 views | Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:41 - Oct 15 with 4577 views | HighgateBlue |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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Exactly this. |  | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:44 - Oct 15 with 4584 views | PhilTWTD |
Someone working at the club told me that members of Lambert's staff thought they were going to be out of a job when they heard he was meeting Marcus Evans on the morning of the Wycombe match. |  | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:45 - Oct 15 with 4565 views | PhilTWTD |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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Indeed, his contract terms had been agreed a while back but he wouldn't sign until terms of a similar length had been agreed with some of his staff. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:55 - Oct 15 with 4512 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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Re-writing history a bit there, we were 4th when the contract was signed and hadn’t won for 7 games - and had just 2 wins in the last 11. We were playing awfully too - the wheels had firmly come off by then, and so it continued to prove |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 23:07 - Oct 15 with 4478 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:44 - Oct 15 by PhilTWTD |
Someone working at the club told me that members of Lambert's staff thought they were going to be out of a job when they heard he was meeting Marcus Evans on the morning of the Wycombe match. |
Wonder what lambert walked into when he went into M.Es office that day.... |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 00:08 - Oct 16 with 4367 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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'Another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid...'
We were falling away at that point and he was looking like the clueless fraud he's always been. |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 04:14 - Oct 16 with 4266 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:41 - Oct 15 by HighgateBlue |
Exactly this. |
If you ignore the bit about us doing well. We were well into a slump when the contract was anounced. | |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:03 - Oct 16 with 4134 views | Vaughan8 |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 22:55 - Oct 15 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Re-writing history a bit there, we were 4th when the contract was signed and hadn’t won for 7 games - and had just 2 wins in the last 11. We were playing awfully too - the wheels had firmly come off by then, and so it continued to prove |
Yeah this is more like it. We were definitely going the wrong way.
It was just really odd timing to offer it. He had a couple years left anyway (I think). |  | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:22 - Oct 16 with 4084 views | Churchman |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 04:14 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger |
If you ignore the bit about us doing well. We were well into a slump when the contract was anounced. |
Agreed. We were going down the pan and it was clear for all bar Evans to see. Rotherham didn’t need to get changed to beat us at PR and in the following 22 league games won 5. Ok, a load of those were after windbag Lambert’s contract windfall, but the hiding at mighty Lincoln wasn’t. Bristol Rovers at home had too much for us and even when we did scrape a win, it was rarely convincing.
Covid lockdown came after 4 straight defeats, 3 of them at home. Maybe we were lulling the opposition into a false sense of security and the lads were poised, ready to spring into action for the last 8 games of the season. Yeah, right. We were poor and getting worse. |  | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:38 - Oct 16 with 4041 views | RegencyBlue |
I genuinely believe Evans gave him the contract to shut him up!
Lambert had begun to say things which made it clear what he thought the clubs problems were, namely Evans. Once he signed the new contract however not a peep from him until the end, when he knew he was toast. |  | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:53 - Oct 16 with 3983 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:22 - Oct 16 by Churchman |
Agreed. We were going down the pan and it was clear for all bar Evans to see. Rotherham didn’t need to get changed to beat us at PR and in the following 22 league games won 5. Ok, a load of those were after windbag Lambert’s contract windfall, but the hiding at mighty Lincoln wasn’t. Bristol Rovers at home had too much for us and even when we did scrape a win, it was rarely convincing.
Covid lockdown came after 4 straight defeats, 3 of them at home. Maybe we were lulling the opposition into a false sense of security and the lads were poised, ready to spring into action for the last 8 games of the season. Yeah, right. We were poor and getting worse. |
Lambert would have relegated us again if he'd completed his contract. | |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:02 - Oct 16 with 3952 views | Churchman |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:53 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger |
Lambert would have relegated us again if he'd completed his contract. |
Too right he would. Shambling fraud of a manager. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:06 - Oct 16 with 3942 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 23:07 - Oct 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Wonder what lambert walked into when he went into M.Es office that day.... |
An empty room. Probably. |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:26 - Oct 16 with 3893 views | 66notout |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:02 - Oct 16 by Churchman |
Too right he would. Shambling fraud of a manager. |
He was already that when he was appointed. In the end, having signed the contract on offer, his every move was engineered to speed up the sack. Nasty piece of work. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:33 - Oct 16 with 3875 views | Churchman |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:26 - Oct 16 by 66notout |
He was already that when he was appointed. In the end, having signed the contract on offer, his every move was engineered to speed up the sack. Nasty piece of work. |
Listening to Darren Bent talk about Lambert the other month, I don’t think they swap Christmas cards. DB certainly thinks the gasbag is a useless piece of work, as do the supporters of most of the clubs he’s managed. Not sure how the people up the road view him, given they were his one success. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:50 - Oct 16 with 3825 views | HighgateBlue |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 04:14 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger |
If you ignore the bit about us doing well. We were well into a slump when the contract was anounced. |
But that's the very point that's being made. There was a delay in announcing it, but Evans decided to renew his contract when we were doing well. Clearly the length of the contract was too long, and wasn't justified even on the basis of the form we'd previously shown. But the decision to renew was made before the slump. There were definitely rumblings, i.e. rumours that made their way into the public domain, about Lambert getting a new contract when we were still riding high. Anyone who's ever run a business employing people, let alone a multi-million pound business, knows that (a) renewing a fixed term contract for a key employee rarely takes mere days, and (b) it's suicide in terms of morale to suddenly pull the plug on a contract that's being negotiated just because there's a short term wobble.
Now obviously the short term wobble turned into a huge slump, but leaders have to be decisive, and they take the flak if they get it wrong. Evans got it wrong and suffers the consequences in terms of his standing with the fans. But he didn't decide to give Lambert a new deal when we were doing badly. That's just not what happened.
As for Lambert himself, he had a poor record at Town. But he had a better win rate than Cook, including numerous games in a higher division. The fact that he was grumpy and not chirpy seems to have been his biggest sin. There was no upgrade until McKenna came along, who clearly was the upgrade of all upgrades. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:54 - Oct 16 with 3809 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 21:04 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
I think Phil and others have clarified it was based on how well we were doing but had just been delayed due to negotiations. People still seem to forget that we were mostly second or first up to the middle of January - another few months and we'd have been promoted due to covid and no game changer, no Ashton, no McKenna
The length of the contract was ludicrous obv but we were actually doing fairly well at the time [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 21:04]
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Kind of. We were top after 14 games when the rumours started about a new deal in late October. So had started well. We then picked up 8 points in the next 9 games and had dropped to 5th by 1st Jan when the extension was announced. That period in between was pretty grim.
As usual, Evans was simply a poor judge of what was in front of him. There was some logic in his decision to open negotiations, but the delayed negotiations (the norm back then) ultimately made the decision look a very strange one. |  |
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| In Evans' defence on 08:59 - Oct 16 with 3790 views | Dyland |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:54 - Oct 16 by Swansea_Blue |
Kind of. We were top after 14 games when the rumours started about a new deal in late October. So had started well. We then picked up 8 points in the next 9 games and had dropped to 5th by 1st Jan when the extension was announced. That period in between was pretty grim.
As usual, Evans was simply a poor judge of what was in front of him. There was some logic in his decision to open negotiations, but the delayed negotiations (the norm back then) ultimately made the decision look a very strange one. |
Maybe he isn't/wasn't the type to renege on something once it had been agreed. Obviously this defence overlooks his rotten decision making in itself, arf. |  |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 09:02 - Oct 16 with 3777 views | franz_tyson |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:54 - Oct 16 by Swansea_Blue |
Kind of. We were top after 14 games when the rumours started about a new deal in late October. So had started well. We then picked up 8 points in the next 9 games and had dropped to 5th by 1st Jan when the extension was announced. That period in between was pretty grim.
As usual, Evans was simply a poor judge of what was in front of him. There was some logic in his decision to open negotiations, but the delayed negotiations (the norm back then) ultimately made the decision look a very strange one. |
Amazed how his reputation fell so quickly. He was a hero in August and September and fans even made the massive Lambo banner. Wasn't it the Sunday televised loss against Accrington (Colby Bishop bullied us) followed by the home 2-0 thrashing by Rotherham. He'd gone from saviour hero to has-been turd in 2 months. But Evans was late to the party and gave him a 5 year contract. Still astonished by that. | | | |
| Was it really like that? on 09:20 - Oct 16 with 3713 views | Dyland |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 09:02 - Oct 16 by franz_tyson |
Amazed how his reputation fell so quickly. He was a hero in August and September and fans even made the massive Lambo banner. Wasn't it the Sunday televised loss against Accrington (Colby Bishop bullied us) followed by the home 2-0 thrashing by Rotherham. He'd gone from saviour hero to has-been turd in 2 months. But Evans was late to the party and gave him a 5 year contract. Still astonished by that. |
I didn't much blame him for relegation because of the shambolic transition between McCarthy and Hurst, although in hindsight he takes some responsibility. But that L1 start saw us in an arguably false position as many commented at the time. We were winning, sure, but playing pretty crap and never bossing games. It was always going to even itself out.
Lambert falls in the same bracket as Keane and Jewell for me. | |
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| Paul Lambert 2025 on 09:21 - Oct 16 with 3703 views | PhilTWTD |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 07:03 - Oct 16 by Vaughan8 |
Yeah this is more like it. We were definitely going the wrong way.
It was just really odd timing to offer it. He had a couple years left anyway (I think). |
We were at the time it was announced but, as per the earlier post, his deal had been agreed when things had been looking rather better. The negotiations regarding the other staff delayed things and by that point it looked more bizarre. ME should obviously have held his horses. | | | |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 09:26 - Oct 16 with 3678 views | PhilTWTD |
| Paul Lambert 2025 on 08:06 - Oct 16 by BLUEBEAT |
An empty room. Probably. |
Probably as the meeting was in Wycombe ahead of the match there. | | | |
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