| Dropping out of top 2 17:33 - Nov 14 with 8560 views | FrimleyBlue |
Genuine question.
There's been a fair few posts about entitlement amongst town fans.
But genuinely.. when would it be OK to be disappointed if we dropped out of the top 2 places.
I never thought we'd get anywhere near it this season. Top 10 was a hope. So I based most thoughts on that prediction.
But part of me also sees us as we are. Currently top 2. 8 points clear and lovely gap to missing out on automatic.
So when do you pass the stage of being seen as entitled for changing your expectations from a top 10 finish to one where we've made the gap due to our performances so we should finish top 2...
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| Try and stop overthinking this sh1t on 19:25 - Nov 14 with 2163 views | Dyland |
Brain fart stuff.
Genuine reply. |  |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:33 - Nov 14 with 2138 views | Dyland |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 17:44 - Nov 14 by Ewan_Oozami |
Do you know the story of Chicken Licken? |
He got eaten by a fox, along with Goosey Loosey and Gander Lander. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:44 - Nov 14 with 2119 views | MK1 |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:05 - Nov 14 by NeedhamChris |
If ever there was an example of almost every response playing the man and not the ball, this would be a strong contender.
For me it'll be if we're still in a top 2 spot at the end of February. But expectations do change, I'd have been very happy with mid table at the start of the season but that would be a massive disappointment now. Finishing in the top 6 is now (hopefully) a realistic expectation come the end of the season. |
I understand now. IF we are still top 2 come February, then yes I would be thinking top 2. Right now, I guess I would be a little disappointed if we didn't finish top 6, but after a few days I think I would reflect on what a brilliant season we had had. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 19:46]
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:44 - Nov 14 with 2117 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:25 - Nov 14 by ReusersTown |
You can be disappointed at whichever point you like, just don't be a whiney tw*t about it and be grateful for what we currently are. |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 20:10 - Nov 14 with 2089 views | Vaughan8 |
Just bl00dy enjoy it instead of analysing the he1l out of stuff and doing posts like this.
If this is one of the big things you're worrying about, you're doing well  |  | | |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 20:40 - Nov 14 with 2044 views | gosblue |
Based on last season, we are 5 points from safety (target 1), 28 points from a top 10 finish (realistic pre-season target 2) 31 points from a top 6 finish (a pre-season Hope) and 53 points from automatic promotion a pre-season dream. With 30 games remaining, the first 2 targets are virtually assured, missing out on top 6 would feel like a disaster and while finishing 3rd would feel like a failure it would still be a great achievement considering where we have come from. Top 2 is now a realistic target and is being even talked about outside Ipswich circles. Personally, I think Leeds will be top 2 but at the expense of Leicester rather than Ipswich. January will be key. I remember reading on here somewhere that we may be looking at overseas recruitment which makes much more sense than sp*nking £millions on overpriced championship strikers. | | | |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:14 - Nov 14 with 2014 views | Garv |
Saw a few people predicting top 10 before the start of the season. In hindsight that was quite pessimistic and probably just a sign of people being so happy at having the high of promotion they would be comfortable with an 'average' season in 23/24.
We have the best manager in the league. Even at the start that wasn't an outrageous suggestion. Add in the momentum and quality of football we play, we probably should have predicted a good go at the top 6 (of course some people did).
Even after all that, surely no one will be 'disappointed' if and when we drop out. Personally I don't think we will, and if we do we'll get back in it. We're finishing second. |  |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:21 - Nov 14 with 1995 views | Stadiumofdark |
last day of the season |  | | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:22 - Nov 14 with 1994 views | USA |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 17:37 - Nov 14 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Plenty of Leeds fans say on the social media are claiming the promotion is theirs and our wheels will come off soon.
Fascinating how they can predict the future. |
And that it’s them saying we’re entitled…! | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:39 - Nov 14 with 1963 views | Ryorry |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:05 - Nov 14 by NeedhamChris |
If ever there was an example of almost every response playing the man and not the ball, this would be a strong contender.
For me it'll be if we're still in a top 2 spot at the end of February. But expectations do change, I'd have been very happy with mid table at the start of the season but that would be a massive disappointment now. Finishing in the top 6 is now (hopefully) a realistic expectation come the end of the season. |
You cannot ignore the relentless negativity of his posts, and their cumulative effect.
For the first time in 20 years we fans are able to enjoy every aspect of being an ITFC fan - until along comes Frimmers, who pricks our balloon on a regular basis.
There's plenty of low points and years in which negative posts dwelling on our dire owner, managers, league positions, less than great players, dull football, slipping down the table, finances, state of the ground etc would have been appropriate. This is a rare time when they're not, so just give us a break & let us enjoy these high times while they last please. Please |  |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:59 - Nov 14 with 1925 views | NeedhamChris |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:39 - Nov 14 by Ryorry |
You cannot ignore the relentless negativity of his posts, and their cumulative effect.
For the first time in 20 years we fans are able to enjoy every aspect of being an ITFC fan - until along comes Frimmers, who pricks our balloon on a regular basis.
There's plenty of low points and years in which negative posts dwelling on our dire owner, managers, league positions, less than great players, dull football, slipping down the table, finances, state of the ground etc would have been appropriate. This is a rare time when they're not, so just give us a break & let us enjoy these high times while they last please. Please |
I just don't interpret this post as negatively as you and others seem to have.
Also you can ignore them, you just choose not to. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 22:34 - Nov 14 with 1870 views | Ryorry |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 21:59 - Nov 14 by NeedhamChris |
I just don't interpret this post as negatively as you and others seem to have.
Also you can ignore them, you just choose not to. |
I'd put him on ignore like a shot if he wasn't across so many threads with multiple posts - but having so many 'invisible' posts would make many threads just incoherent/unreadable.
Also the option obviously doesn't work if you're logged out & just looking at the forum 'front page' to see what's happening. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:00 - Nov 14 with 1854 views | vilanovablue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 18:03 - Nov 14 by norfsufblue |
For me January 21st....
We will have played both Leeds and Leicester twice and if we are still top 2 after that I'd fancy our chances and be disappointed if we failed after that. |
I think this is the point of the season I'm looking towards. If we're there or thereabouts and I think we'll be second, it's at that point it gets interesting. To be honest I'm just loving being a fan and we're relevant again playing some great football. How often are we passing a ball to a moving man. After so many years of grim football this is a joy. However I'm just interested in the next game and have no intention of getting myself ahead. I've been following town to long to do that. |  | | |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:48 - Nov 14 with 1834 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 22:34 - Nov 14 by Ryorry |
I'd put him on ignore like a shot if he wasn't across so many threads with multiple posts - but having so many 'invisible' posts would make many threads just incoherent/unreadable.
Also the option obviously doesn't work if you're logged out & just looking at the forum 'front page' to see what's happening. |
Is it difficult to scroll past a comment?
I find it odd that the posters name shows when a post is made. So you know a post you're about to read is by me. Yet you choose to read it rather than scroll past it.
Especially this thread.. I've made the OP. It's clear I have yet you've chosen to go into it and read the post and then moan about the content.
The other poster is correct this thread and my OP wasn't negative. It's clearly badly written as many haven't taking it for what it was so apologies to those that didn't but glad a few have understood what I was asking. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:52 - Nov 14 with 1830 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 20:10 - Nov 14 by Vaughan8 |
Just bl00dy enjoy it instead of analysing the he1l out of stuff and doing posts like this.
If this is one of the big things you're worrying about, you're doing well |
I'm enjoying it very much.
Was just curious about this whole entitlement stuff. It keeps being thrown around on here and other social media sites. So just curious when does it not be seen as entitled to feel you deserve a top 2 place. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:57 - Nov 14 with 1813 views | Ryorry |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:48 - Nov 14 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it difficult to scroll past a comment?
I find it odd that the posters name shows when a post is made. So you know a post you're about to read is by me. Yet you choose to read it rather than scroll past it.
Especially this thread.. I've made the OP. It's clear I have yet you've chosen to go into it and read the post and then moan about the content.
The other poster is correct this thread and my OP wasn't negative. It's clearly badly written as many haven't taking it for what it was so apologies to those that didn't but glad a few have understood what I was asking. |
You can't just scroll past it - ignoring it makes many other peoples' replies completely unfathomable, as I said.
You've also totally ignored my other point about being logged out.
Would it really hurt you so much to take on board other posters' comments & do something about it yourself, instead of expecting everyone else to take action to avoid you? | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:08 - Nov 15 with 1805 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:57 - Nov 14 by Ryorry |
You can't just scroll past it - ignoring it makes many other peoples' replies completely unfathomable, as I said.
You've also totally ignored my other point about being logged out.
Would it really hurt you so much to take on board other posters' comments & do something about it yourself, instead of expecting everyone else to take action to avoid you? |
You've literally clicked into this thread to see the content. It's not about other replies. Even being logged out you'd still see the thread has been made by me. So why look at it if it causes you such pain
In regards to your 2nd paragraph. I've toned down certain elements. It's a shame you repeatedly ignore the positive parts but concentrate solely on the negatives but if that's what you wish to do that's on you I'm afraid. But I keep my thoughts balanced on here and look to share both positive and negative view points. If you don't ever want to read negative stuff then I'm afraid I can't help you with that, I like to discuss football in a critical way, that's how I've always enjoyed the sport. Doesn't mean you enjoy what happens anyless. Just how the sport has always been and should always be. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:20 - Nov 15 with 1788 views | Ryorry |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:08 - Nov 15 by FrimleyBlue |
You've literally clicked into this thread to see the content. It's not about other replies. Even being logged out you'd still see the thread has been made by me. So why look at it if it causes you such pain
In regards to your 2nd paragraph. I've toned down certain elements. It's a shame you repeatedly ignore the positive parts but concentrate solely on the negatives but if that's what you wish to do that's on you I'm afraid. But I keep my thoughts balanced on here and look to share both positive and negative view points. If you don't ever want to read negative stuff then I'm afraid I can't help you with that, I like to discuss football in a critical way, that's how I've always enjoyed the sport. Doesn't mean you enjoy what happens anyless. Just how the sport has always been and should always be. |
I was happy as Larry with the ITFC part of my life, us being in top 2, till I saw your first post - which was unavoidable.
Mood immediately dropped & I was sufficiently annoyed at that to register my protest, or would you rather everybody didn't tell you, just put you on ignore, and left you to talk to yourself?
As for your "yes but I also post positive parts" - the problem is you do it in a manner which you then immediately follow with a "but" - eg 'we played great for 80 minutes and won, but (negative negative negative) - so the tone overall is one of being as down as if we'd lost or drawn. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:29 - Nov 15 with 1780 views | SWBlue22 |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:52 - Nov 14 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm enjoying it very much.
Was just curious about this whole entitlement stuff. It keeps being thrown around on here and other social media sites. So just curious when does it not be seen as entitled to feel you deserve a top 2 place. |
When it’s mathematically impossible to finish outside the top 2. |  | | |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:35 - Nov 15 with 1777 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:20 - Nov 15 by Ryorry |
I was happy as Larry with the ITFC part of my life, us being in top 2, till I saw your first post - which was unavoidable.
Mood immediately dropped & I was sufficiently annoyed at that to register my protest, or would you rather everybody didn't tell you, just put you on ignore, and left you to talk to yourself?
As for your "yes but I also post positive parts" - the problem is you do it in a manner which you then immediately follow with a "but" - eg 'we played great for 80 minutes and won, but (negative negative negative) - so the tone overall is one of being as down as if we'd lost or drawn. |
Bet you hated KMs interview sat then after he spoke positively then negatively about the the game. Like I said already I like to discuss football for the sport that it is and part of that is the positive and negatives of the sport.
Plenty people have me on ignore. That's the great thing about the site. It enables people to do so. That's better than people clicking on posts they don't wanna read to them moan about reading them.
Anyways off to bed.
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 05:43 - Nov 15 with 1741 views | MK1 |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 00:35 - Nov 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Bet you hated KMs interview sat then after he spoke positively then negatively about the the game. Like I said already I like to discuss football for the sport that it is and part of that is the positive and negatives of the sport.
Plenty people have me on ignore. That's the great thing about the site. It enables people to do so. That's better than people clicking on posts they don't wanna read to them moan about reading them.
Anyways off to bed.
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I said a few weeks ago that your posts seem to contain a negative slant. It is almost like you always want to say "I told you so" or " I said it wasn't going to be like that". Life is a lot better when you are mainly positive about things. Give it a go and see how you get on. | |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 07:18 - Nov 15 with 1722 views | GavTWTD |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 19:05 - Nov 14 by NeedhamChris |
If ever there was an example of almost every response playing the man and not the ball, this would be a strong contender.
For me it'll be if we're still in a top 2 spot at the end of February. But expectations do change, I'd have been very happy with mid table at the start of the season but that would be a massive disappointment now. Finishing in the top 6 is now (hopefully) a realistic expectation come the end of the season. |
The paragraph about entitlement wasn't needed imo. Otherwise it would have been a good question..But that's trimmers.
It would depend on the manner. If we dropped out of the top 2 because we started to lose regularly, that would be different to Leeds just pipping us because their PPG was slightly better. I hope the 3 teams that get promoted are the ones that deserve it over the season. If we get beaten by better teams then so be it.
The thought of the playoffs doesn't frighten me at all with McKenna. |  |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 07:30 - Nov 15 with 1697 views | RobTheMonk |
I think it's pretty simple: if you're in the top two, you don't want to drop out of the top two. If it happens, well, we're still top 6 which is still exceptional for a newly promoted team. |  | | |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 07:55 - Nov 15 with 1682 views | Buhrer |
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| Dropping out of top 2 on 08:01 - Nov 15 with 1659 views | StokieBlue |
| Dropping out of top 2 on 23:52 - Nov 14 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm enjoying it very much.
Was just curious about this whole entitlement stuff. It keeps being thrown around on here and other social media sites. So just curious when does it not be seen as entitled to feel you deserve a top 2 place. |
"Was just curious about this whole entitlement stuff. It keeps being thrown around on here and other social media sites."
I have never seen it mentioned on here before you mentioned it.
Perhaps I missed it or you're getting your sites mixed up with regards to where you saw the content?
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