| Over achieving and over criticising 23:29 - Feb 10 with 6503 views | waveneyblue |
Just reading through comments on here and on facebook/x, there's becoming a really unpleasant theme with the level of criticism aimed at the team.
Certain posters have their favourite scapegoat, Burns, Hladky, Jackson, Wolfenden, Clarke, etc etc. Some go all in with criticism of the entire team or some proper random stuff i.e Moore and hilariously McKenna.
When you look back at the abject dross since 2015 (probably earlier if you ignore the fluke play off season) I'm really struggling to understand it.
Everything about the club is better, and virtually every player has improved but the level of negativity is off the scale. If you came on here blind to the league table you would think we were just below midtable .
The defence has allowed 7 shots on goal in the last 3 games. The midfield continues to create chances and the forwards were pretty decent today.
The over achievement has messed with people's heads and the entitlement is crazy.
Let's go back to enjoying the ride and supporting the team. It might just work in our favour.
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:31 - Feb 11 with 1030 views | Dyland |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 00:00 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Incorrect.
The over achievement is being used as a smokescreen to what has become a very very poor run of results.
Absolutely in the summer you'd have taken where we find ourselves. However it is indeed 1 win in 8 or 9 league games what ever it is. Why should that and player performances be ignored because of what happened before it. We are talking about now. And lately certain player performances aren't good enough for this level. They have time to perform again. So let's see it. |
No one is suggesting fans can't criticise players, question or discuss ability levels, and tactics and subs etc.
Texters made a good point yesterday about judging us as a top six Championship team, rather than against the blank slate at season's start. I agree.
The context is nonetheless that we have over performed and exceeded expectations (except Donners and Herbers who've always said we'll finish top, but they are mad innit x) based largely on a decent core team who have been together for a bit and are extremely well drilled. And momentum, which has inevitably run out. Fact is, they are largely a bit slower, and absolutely a bit smaller than many seasoned Champ players, and certainly the ones who've recently been in the Prem, up and down etc. WBA a case in point. But we were still better as a team, imo. Of course we will still struggle to break down a team like WBA.
The subs as all have said made a massive difference to our attacking play. That is normal, across most teams at all levels. You turn this into criticism of our starters. Said criticism is often untempered and lacking nuance or context.
We are a work in progress and yes, we should absolutely measure our season against our amazing start, as long as we remember the context. One half against PNE aside, our disappointing form hasn't caused concerns there are deep rooted issues. We still play the way McKenna wants, can dominate the ball and create. Sure, our defenders make individual errors that have really cost us points, and yep we are always looking to improve the team and squad. It's been two windows ffs. |  |
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| Context ffs on 08:44 - Feb 11 with 985 views | Dyland |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 00:28 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
The words are its a very very poor run of results
In those 9 games only 4 sides have a worse run of results
9 points from 27 available is poor. Sugar-coat it all you like but it is.
Why should players and manager be applauded when it goes well but not criticised when it's not. |
Against QPR it was a scratch team e.g.
"Sugar-coat it all you like."
Leicester and Leeds have squads costing many times ours etc.
"Sugar-coat it all you like."
We outplayed Nodge (compare the last fifteen years at both clubs) and they celebrated a draw like they'd finally won a meaningful cup.
"Sugar-coat it all you like."
We're playing teams who have been up and down Prem or at this level for years whilst we've been underfunded and relegated without a whimper.
"Sugar-coat it all you like."
Etc. Etc. Etc. | |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:46 - Feb 11 with 975 views | FrimleyBlue |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:31 - Feb 11 by Dyland |
No one is suggesting fans can't criticise players, question or discuss ability levels, and tactics and subs etc.
Texters made a good point yesterday about judging us as a top six Championship team, rather than against the blank slate at season's start. I agree.
The context is nonetheless that we have over performed and exceeded expectations (except Donners and Herbers who've always said we'll finish top, but they are mad innit x) based largely on a decent core team who have been together for a bit and are extremely well drilled. And momentum, which has inevitably run out. Fact is, they are largely a bit slower, and absolutely a bit smaller than many seasoned Champ players, and certainly the ones who've recently been in the Prem, up and down etc. WBA a case in point. But we were still better as a team, imo. Of course we will still struggle to break down a team like WBA.
The subs as all have said made a massive difference to our attacking play. That is normal, across most teams at all levels. You turn this into criticism of our starters. Said criticism is often untempered and lacking nuance or context.
We are a work in progress and yes, we should absolutely measure our season against our amazing start, as long as we remember the context. One half against PNE aside, our disappointing form hasn't caused concerns there are deep rooted issues. We still play the way McKenna wants, can dominate the ball and create. Sure, our defenders make individual errors that have really cost us points, and yep we are always looking to improve the team and squad. It's been two windows ffs. |
You literally can't criticise anything. You're reminded of our pre Xmas form. Reminded we got promoted etc
There's no acceptance of any form of criticism.
Look at the broadhead stuff. People saying its disrespectful for posters to say he's not been on form. Disrespectful?!,.
I Just don't get a football forum that's so anti criticism. And before you mention context again. The likes of arnie. Myself and others have provided solid examples of why we feel a certain element is seen as a negative.. is that accepted? No. Its still responded as being anti ipswich.
And sorry but its not normal to have to be saved by subs so often. Even in our pre Dec form. It's great when it happens but it's not something you should be relying on weekly.
And yes we've had 2 windows. Yet we are still lining up with 9 out of 11 players who were playing in league 1 together. If you've been shopping to add quality to the side then surely we should be seeing them together going into the third week of February.
Absolutely its great that it worked so well pre Xmas. But when you have won 1 in 9 it's not wrong to think we've hit a wall and when you're best players of previous year aren't performing its not wrong to be critical.
If we are to applaud and rightly so successes then absolutely we have the right to criticise the negatives and at present there is something not working.
Lots of talk about wokfy yesterday. The cbs. But this system that's done us so well.. is this now hurting us in a league where you get punished more than league 1.
Think people have forgotten that yesterday just a week from preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes or what ever it was.
We kicked off. Bombed forwards. Burns didn't so anything with the ball.. brom broke. We were out of position already and brom had a shot inside the first minute and were inches away from scoring.
At what point does KM do something to solve that issue.. it's literally week in week out at present. |  |
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| Fiar points on 08:55 - Feb 11 with 959 views | Dyland |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:46 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
You literally can't criticise anything. You're reminded of our pre Xmas form. Reminded we got promoted etc
There's no acceptance of any form of criticism.
Look at the broadhead stuff. People saying its disrespectful for posters to say he's not been on form. Disrespectful?!,.
I Just don't get a football forum that's so anti criticism. And before you mention context again. The likes of arnie. Myself and others have provided solid examples of why we feel a certain element is seen as a negative.. is that accepted? No. Its still responded as being anti ipswich.
And sorry but its not normal to have to be saved by subs so often. Even in our pre Dec form. It's great when it happens but it's not something you should be relying on weekly.
And yes we've had 2 windows. Yet we are still lining up with 9 out of 11 players who were playing in league 1 together. If you've been shopping to add quality to the side then surely we should be seeing them together going into the third week of February.
Absolutely its great that it worked so well pre Xmas. But when you have won 1 in 9 it's not wrong to think we've hit a wall and when you're best players of previous year aren't performing its not wrong to be critical.
If we are to applaud and rightly so successes then absolutely we have the right to criticise the negatives and at present there is something not working.
Lots of talk about wokfy yesterday. The cbs. But this system that's done us so well.. is this now hurting us in a league where you get punished more than league 1.
Think people have forgotten that yesterday just a week from preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes or what ever it was.
We kicked off. Bombed forwards. Burns didn't so anything with the ball.. brom broke. We were out of position already and brom had a shot inside the first minute and were inches away from scoring.
At what point does KM do something to solve that issue.. it's literally week in week out at present. |
Except one CAN criticise and question all the stuff I said. Ignoring the context is silly though.
Maybe some of the usual pelters you get may be coming currently from the fact many posters were at PR yesterday and left the ground buzzing from the atmosphere and finale. So you're coming across as a bit of a miserable sod as well being (fairly or unfairly) critical. | |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:57 - Feb 11 with 953 views | blueislander |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:31 - Feb 11 by Dyland |
No one is suggesting fans can't criticise players, question or discuss ability levels, and tactics and subs etc.
Texters made a good point yesterday about judging us as a top six Championship team, rather than against the blank slate at season's start. I agree.
The context is nonetheless that we have over performed and exceeded expectations (except Donners and Herbers who've always said we'll finish top, but they are mad innit x) based largely on a decent core team who have been together for a bit and are extremely well drilled. And momentum, which has inevitably run out. Fact is, they are largely a bit slower, and absolutely a bit smaller than many seasoned Champ players, and certainly the ones who've recently been in the Prem, up and down etc. WBA a case in point. But we were still better as a team, imo. Of course we will still struggle to break down a team like WBA.
The subs as all have said made a massive difference to our attacking play. That is normal, across most teams at all levels. You turn this into criticism of our starters. Said criticism is often untempered and lacking nuance or context.
We are a work in progress and yes, we should absolutely measure our season against our amazing start, as long as we remember the context. One half against PNE aside, our disappointing form hasn't caused concerns there are deep rooted issues. We still play the way McKenna wants, can dominate the ball and create. Sure, our defenders make individual errors that have really cost us points, and yep we are always looking to improve the team and squad. It's been two windows ffs. |
I tend not to analyse too much. I leave that to more erudite posters who understand football. However let’s look at the league matches since the derby. That match should have been an easy victory had we taken the chances we created in the first 15 minutes. I don’t think that was a bad performance.We have lost two matches. Leeds were brilliant and we were never in it. Preston was an aberration. The first two goals should not have been allowed to stand. We totally dominated the second half, in all, not a bad performance. We twice drew deservedly with the team that is demonstrably the best in the league. Very good performances. We were forced to field an understrength team against QPR , and weren’t able to break them down. At Stoke I would concede we were below par. Yesterday we played a team that had totally dominated us earlier in the season, and almost won it at the death. Oh yes, and we beat Sunderland. |  | | |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 with 944 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:46 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
You literally can't criticise anything. You're reminded of our pre Xmas form. Reminded we got promoted etc
There's no acceptance of any form of criticism.
Look at the broadhead stuff. People saying its disrespectful for posters to say he's not been on form. Disrespectful?!,.
I Just don't get a football forum that's so anti criticism. And before you mention context again. The likes of arnie. Myself and others have provided solid examples of why we feel a certain element is seen as a negative.. is that accepted? No. Its still responded as being anti ipswich.
And sorry but its not normal to have to be saved by subs so often. Even in our pre Dec form. It's great when it happens but it's not something you should be relying on weekly.
And yes we've had 2 windows. Yet we are still lining up with 9 out of 11 players who were playing in league 1 together. If you've been shopping to add quality to the side then surely we should be seeing them together going into the third week of February.
Absolutely its great that it worked so well pre Xmas. But when you have won 1 in 9 it's not wrong to think we've hit a wall and when you're best players of previous year aren't performing its not wrong to be critical.
If we are to applaud and rightly so successes then absolutely we have the right to criticise the negatives and at present there is something not working.
Lots of talk about wokfy yesterday. The cbs. But this system that's done us so well.. is this now hurting us in a league where you get punished more than league 1.
Think people have forgotten that yesterday just a week from preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes or what ever it was.
We kicked off. Bombed forwards. Burns didn't so anything with the ball.. brom broke. We were out of position already and brom had a shot inside the first minute and were inches away from scoring.
At what point does KM do something to solve that issue.. it's literally week in week out at present. |
"You literally can't criticise anything." Wrong. Plenty of people are able to make constructive criticism and do. Your criticisms are another level. So many downarrows, so many criticisms of what you post, and you still think you're right, everyone else is wrong, and "You literally can't criticise anything."
Wake up. You are utterly deluded.
The rest of your post, every bit of it is wrong.
Bringing on attacking subs - you say "it's not something you should be relying on weekly" and yet it's a tactic we use weekly. It's not a mistake, it's something we literally choose to do and is regularly successful.
We line up with players who played in League 1 because we bought them to play in the Champ, and they have stepped up.
"People have forgotten... preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes" - you have forgotten that neither of those goals should have stood and the officials have apologised for them.
STOP POSTING RUBBISH. |  |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 with 946 views | itfcjoe |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:46 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
You literally can't criticise anything. You're reminded of our pre Xmas form. Reminded we got promoted etc
There's no acceptance of any form of criticism.
Look at the broadhead stuff. People saying its disrespectful for posters to say he's not been on form. Disrespectful?!,.
I Just don't get a football forum that's so anti criticism. And before you mention context again. The likes of arnie. Myself and others have provided solid examples of why we feel a certain element is seen as a negative.. is that accepted? No. Its still responded as being anti ipswich.
And sorry but its not normal to have to be saved by subs so often. Even in our pre Dec form. It's great when it happens but it's not something you should be relying on weekly.
And yes we've had 2 windows. Yet we are still lining up with 9 out of 11 players who were playing in league 1 together. If you've been shopping to add quality to the side then surely we should be seeing them together going into the third week of February.
Absolutely its great that it worked so well pre Xmas. But when you have won 1 in 9 it's not wrong to think we've hit a wall and when you're best players of previous year aren't performing its not wrong to be critical.
If we are to applaud and rightly so successes then absolutely we have the right to criticise the negatives and at present there is something not working.
Lots of talk about wokfy yesterday. The cbs. But this system that's done us so well.. is this now hurting us in a league where you get punished more than league 1.
Think people have forgotten that yesterday just a week from preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes or what ever it was.
We kicked off. Bombed forwards. Burns didn't so anything with the ball.. brom broke. We were out of position already and brom had a shot inside the first minute and were inches away from scoring.
At what point does KM do something to solve that issue.. it's literally week in week out at present. |
I wish i had the time or inclination to go after every piece of this comment as it is contains so much rubbish.
A couple of examples
Not usual to rely on subs - we basically take off every attacker and goal/assist source bar Davis with 20 minutes to go. Who else is going to score?
The ‘system is hurting us’ - we are going along at 2 points per game. We’ve just deserved a win against a side we couldn’t lay a glove on 3 months ago, but then you’d have said how terrible we were because we had the temerity to be well beaten for the first time that season
At the start - out of position and they broke….and inches away. Firstly with the way we dominate the ball this can happen - we overload teams when we have the ball and the guy put it 3 foot over the bar, big deal.
When relying on lunatics like Arnie as your character witness then what do you expect as well - if you can’t see what we are doing here yet, why, and how it works then you never will. May as well just watch the 2 minute highlights and come and post your hot takes |  |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 09:00 - Feb 11 with 932 views | bluefunk |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:46 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
You literally can't criticise anything. You're reminded of our pre Xmas form. Reminded we got promoted etc
There's no acceptance of any form of criticism.
Look at the broadhead stuff. People saying its disrespectful for posters to say he's not been on form. Disrespectful?!,.
I Just don't get a football forum that's so anti criticism. And before you mention context again. The likes of arnie. Myself and others have provided solid examples of why we feel a certain element is seen as a negative.. is that accepted? No. Its still responded as being anti ipswich.
And sorry but its not normal to have to be saved by subs so often. Even in our pre Dec form. It's great when it happens but it's not something you should be relying on weekly.
And yes we've had 2 windows. Yet we are still lining up with 9 out of 11 players who were playing in league 1 together. If you've been shopping to add quality to the side then surely we should be seeing them together going into the third week of February.
Absolutely its great that it worked so well pre Xmas. But when you have won 1 in 9 it's not wrong to think we've hit a wall and when you're best players of previous year aren't performing its not wrong to be critical.
If we are to applaud and rightly so successes then absolutely we have the right to criticise the negatives and at present there is something not working.
Lots of talk about wokfy yesterday. The cbs. But this system that's done us so well.. is this now hurting us in a league where you get punished more than league 1.
Think people have forgotten that yesterday just a week from preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes or what ever it was.
We kicked off. Bombed forwards. Burns didn't so anything with the ball.. brom broke. We were out of position already and brom had a shot inside the first minute and were inches away from scoring.
At what point does KM do something to solve that issue.. it's literally week in week out at present. |
From where do you derive the “right” to criticise? What is it that you do (or don’t do) that provides it? |  | | |
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| Shut up with your smartarse context Jerseys (n/t) on 09:00 - Feb 11 with 929 views | Dyland |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"You literally can't criticise anything." Wrong. Plenty of people are able to make constructive criticism and do. Your criticisms are another level. So many downarrows, so many criticisms of what you post, and you still think you're right, everyone else is wrong, and "You literally can't criticise anything."
Wake up. You are utterly deluded.
The rest of your post, every bit of it is wrong.
Bringing on attacking subs - you say "it's not something you should be relying on weekly" and yet it's a tactic we use weekly. It's not a mistake, it's something we literally choose to do and is regularly successful.
We line up with players who played in League 1 because we bought them to play in the Champ, and they have stepped up.
"People have forgotten... preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes" - you have forgotten that neither of those goals should have stood and the officials have apologised for them.
STOP POSTING RUBBISH. |
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| Ouch on 09:01 - Feb 11 with 924 views | Dyland |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe |
I wish i had the time or inclination to go after every piece of this comment as it is contains so much rubbish.
A couple of examples
Not usual to rely on subs - we basically take off every attacker and goal/assist source bar Davis with 20 minutes to go. Who else is going to score?
The ‘system is hurting us’ - we are going along at 2 points per game. We’ve just deserved a win against a side we couldn’t lay a glove on 3 months ago, but then you’d have said how terrible we were because we had the temerity to be well beaten for the first time that season
At the start - out of position and they broke….and inches away. Firstly with the way we dominate the ball this can happen - we overload teams when we have the ball and the guy put it 3 foot over the bar, big deal.
When relying on lunatics like Arnie as your character witness then what do you expect as well - if you can’t see what we are doing here yet, why, and how it works then you never will. May as well just watch the 2 minute highlights and come and post your hot takes |
Well put. | |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 09:02 - Feb 11 with 921 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:57 - Feb 11 by blueislander |
I tend not to analyse too much. I leave that to more erudite posters who understand football. However let’s look at the league matches since the derby. That match should have been an easy victory had we taken the chances we created in the first 15 minutes. I don’t think that was a bad performance.We have lost two matches. Leeds were brilliant and we were never in it. Preston was an aberration. The first two goals should not have been allowed to stand. We totally dominated the second half, in all, not a bad performance. We twice drew deservedly with the team that is demonstrably the best in the league. Very good performances. We were forced to field an understrength team against QPR , and weren’t able to break them down. At Stoke I would concede we were below par. Yesterday we played a team that had totally dominated us earlier in the season, and almost won it at the death. Oh yes, and we beat Sunderland. |
"I leave that to more erudite posters who understand football" - I wish Frimmers would take a leaf out of your book because you've posted far more eruditely and with understanding of football in this one post than he ever has. | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:08 - Feb 11 with 896 views | DBaldy |
Another thread dominated by our idiot in residence I see.
I'd suggest the entire forum put him on ignore and then the rest of us can have a proper discussion about our games.
Either that or Phil could permanently ban him, as this kind of stuff completely ruins the forum. | | | |
| Fiar points on 09:08 - Feb 11 with 879 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fiar points on 08:55 - Feb 11 by Dyland |
Except one CAN criticise and question all the stuff I said. Ignoring the context is silly though.
Maybe some of the usual pelters you get may be coming currently from the fact many posters were at PR yesterday and left the ground buzzing from the atmosphere and finale. So you're coming across as a bit of a miserable sod as well being (fairly or unfairly) critical. |
That's what I mean.
There was another post saying the performance was great ( something along those lines) and your mention of leaving buzzing.. I get it I'd have felt the same being there as the final 10 minutes we exciting. And I did even at home let out a groan when the whistle went as I wanted the game to continue.
But the 80 before that wasn't and it was similar to lambert era of lots of ball little done with it. That's not being disrespectful just the best way to describe it.
With the continued slacking early In games. Then our quite sluggish attempts at breaking down teams at present, we are relying on the subs far far to much imo. You really shouldn't be relying on subs every game to save points.
And yes we discuss opponents. But this was a brom side who had injuries. Brought a sub on took him off.
Who'd only won 4 away games all season. Yet it took a sub to save us a point.
You're absolutely right people can question criticism. But you don't see that. You get pss off. Fk off etc.
Suddenly every post meets to be really deep. Full of information. Where as if I say gosh broadhead was good yesterday. You get uppies and agreements without any requirement to share why you think it was good. Yet you point out players you feel weren't great. Woah woah woah. Context. Why. Your mad. Think about the past year etc. | |
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| Shut up with your smartarse context Jerseys (n/t) on 09:09 - Feb 11 with 878 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Shut up with your smartarse context Jerseys (n/t) on 09:00 - Feb 11 by Dyland |
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I do the smart, Frimmers does the arse.
Nah, my comments aren't particularly smart, just facts. It's really easy to post facts (for most people). You just look at the facts and then post them.
And then there's Frimmers.
He has a very creative mind, I'll give him that. He could probably do something useful with it, like writing fantasy or something. | |
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 09:16 - Feb 11 with 850 views | FrimleyBlue |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"You literally can't criticise anything." Wrong. Plenty of people are able to make constructive criticism and do. Your criticisms are another level. So many downarrows, so many criticisms of what you post, and you still think you're right, everyone else is wrong, and "You literally can't criticise anything."
Wake up. You are utterly deluded.
The rest of your post, every bit of it is wrong.
Bringing on attacking subs - you say "it's not something you should be relying on weekly" and yet it's a tactic we use weekly. It's not a mistake, it's something we literally choose to do and is regularly successful.
We line up with players who played in League 1 because we bought them to play in the Champ, and they have stepped up.
"People have forgotten... preston scoring 2 inside 7 minutes" - you have forgotten that neither of those goals should have stood and the officials have apologised for them.
STOP POSTING RUBBISH. |
It's not successful flash if you've won 1 game in 9 league games.
It may have been
It may be again
At the moment you just can't say it's working when we've won 1 game in 9.
Regarding your last point
Preston could have should have scored inside the first minute.
The goals may not have stood flash.. but we left ourselves open to them hadn't we. Just how it was. It's a shame but the games gone and we can't do anything about it now. But we let those chances happen. 1 due to the slowness at the time of morsy breaking out. And the 2nd we lost the ball high up and got countered early.
As you love to point out posts... please share a negative view you've accepted without insults.. I've looked across some and you're there being rather insulting to the posters. Is that acceptance? | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:22 - Feb 11 with 842 views | blueasfook |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:08 - Feb 11 by DBaldy |
Another thread dominated by our idiot in residence I see.
I'd suggest the entire forum put him on ignore and then the rest of us can have a proper discussion about our games.
Either that or Phil could permanently ban him, as this kind of stuff completely ruins the forum. |
I really don't understand why so many get angry about what he posts. Frimmers is a bit of a negative ninny for sure but that's his views. Debate with him if you don't agree with him sure, but I find it strange how he gets so many posters frothing at the mouth.
There are far more obnoxious posters on here than old Frimmers. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:24 - Feb 11 with 840 views | BlueBadger |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 06:55 - Feb 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
That’s not true. Supporting a franchise hasn’t turned obsessive morons into toxic glory seekers = that happened long ago. Town’s support has had an increasingly large vile rump for decades. |
And speaking of increasingly vile rumps... |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:25 - Feb 11 with 832 views | Herbivore |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 00:29 - Feb 11 by HighgateBlue |
We're not entitled to anything, and I think most fans accept that. What you're criticising is some fans' reaction to, or opinions on, the factual situation which presents itself.
But if you're asking for a more objective response, cherry picking the facts is unhelpful at best. Pointing out that there have only been 7 shots on target against us in 3 games is wilfully misleading if you don't also acknowledge that every single one has resulted in a goal. Every. Single. One.
That is off the scale bad, and that fact needs considering along with the many others which point in favour of a negative or a positive reaction.
For what it's worth, I think that the ability to score goals from our chances and the ability to stop the other side's chances from becoming goals are two vital factors in a team's success. Both have been lacking in the last few weeks, especially the latter, but both have been lacking.
But yes, we're in a better position than under Marcus Evans, and I think we're all very glad about that. |
How, in your opinion, do we stop teams scoring with every shot on target against us? What's the magic bullet that fixes that? We have the third best xGA record in the league but have the 9th best goals against record. What would you like us to do so that we can stop teams being more clinical against us than you would expect them to be? [Post edited 11 Feb 9:32]
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| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 09:27 - Feb 11 with 819 views | FrimleyBlue |
| You ignore context even when replying to a post about, er context on 08:59 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe |
I wish i had the time or inclination to go after every piece of this comment as it is contains so much rubbish.
A couple of examples
Not usual to rely on subs - we basically take off every attacker and goal/assist source bar Davis with 20 minutes to go. Who else is going to score?
The ‘system is hurting us’ - we are going along at 2 points per game. We’ve just deserved a win against a side we couldn’t lay a glove on 3 months ago, but then you’d have said how terrible we were because we had the temerity to be well beaten for the first time that season
At the start - out of position and they broke….and inches away. Firstly with the way we dominate the ball this can happen - we overload teams when we have the ball and the guy put it 3 foot over the bar, big deal.
When relying on lunatics like Arnie as your character witness then what do you expect as well - if you can’t see what we are doing here yet, why, and how it works then you never will. May as well just watch the 2 minute highlights and come and post your hot takes |
I think it is a big deal Joe.
Most goals conceded inside 15 minutes. And potentially again we almost went 1 down inside a minute again. Their actually goal came on 17 mins I think so almost lol.
It's odd that most were last week agreeing that we need to stop early goals. Yet now you're saying big deal we let them in early.
Point one.. erm maybe those who started the game
1 win in 9 isn't 2 points a game. But again let's just ignore the current results and just remember the old. Rather odd again but what ever. | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:37 - Feb 11 with 795 views | EastTownBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 06:55 - Feb 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
That’s not true. Supporting a franchise hasn’t turned obsessive morons into toxic glory seekers = that happened long ago. Town’s support has had an increasingly large vile rump for decades. |
Good to see what sort of post receives an up vote from daveU. | | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:41 - Feb 11 with 791 views | Herbivore |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:08 - Feb 11 by DBaldy |
Another thread dominated by our idiot in residence I see.
I'd suggest the entire forum put him on ignore and then the rest of us can have a proper discussion about our games.
Either that or Phil could permanently ban him, as this kind of stuff completely ruins the forum. |
Or we could have a "Frimmers post-match drivel" thread where Frimmers can post all of his 'thoughts' without contaminating every single sodding discussion. | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:45 - Feb 11 with 779 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 00:00 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Incorrect.
The over achievement is being used as a smokescreen to what has become a very very poor run of results.
Absolutely in the summer you'd have taken where we find ourselves. However it is indeed 1 win in 8 or 9 league games what ever it is. Why should that and player performances be ignored because of what happened before it. We are talking about now. And lately certain player performances aren't good enough for this level. They have time to perform again. So let's see it. |
This is nonsense.
We played well again yesterday, and have only 2 defeats in the last 9 I think, from a very tough set of fixtures. We were due a slump.
Let's see what the next set of fixtures bring.
Stop using impossibly high expectations. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:46 - Feb 11 with 768 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:08 - Feb 11 by DBaldy |
Another thread dominated by our idiot in residence I see.
I'd suggest the entire forum put him on ignore and then the rest of us can have a proper discussion about our games.
Either that or Phil could permanently ban him, as this kind of stuff completely ruins the forum. |
Considering what the OP is actually about. Don't you think it's odd your gripe is about someone posting in defence against what the OP is about. | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:49 - Feb 11 with 760 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:41 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
Or we could have a "Frimmers post-match drivel" thread where Frimmers can post all of his 'thoughts' without contaminating every single sodding discussion. |
This is a great idea, albeit he posts a lot of drivel pre match and during as well. So maybe just a daily 'Frimmers drivel' section. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:53 - Feb 11 with 741 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:41 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
Or we could have a "Frimmers post-match drivel" thread where Frimmers can post all of his 'thoughts' without contaminating every single sodding discussion. |
Or people not posting new threads bemoaning moaners and then moaners moaning because a moaners moans In defence of the moaning in a thread about moaners. | |
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