| Over achieving and over criticising 23:29 - Feb 10 with 9334 views | waveneyblue |
Just reading through comments on here and on facebook/x, there's becoming a really unpleasant theme with the level of criticism aimed at the team.
Certain posters have their favourite scapegoat, Burns, Hladky, Jackson, Wolfenden, Clarke, etc etc. Some go all in with criticism of the entire team or some proper random stuff i.e Moore and hilariously McKenna.
When you look back at the abject dross since 2015 (probably earlier if you ignore the fluke play off season) I'm really struggling to understand it.
Everything about the club is better, and virtually every player has improved but the level of negativity is off the scale. If you came on here blind to the league table you would think we were just below midtable .
The defence has allowed 7 shots on goal in the last 3 games. The midfield continues to create chances and the forwards were pretty decent today.
The over achievement has messed with people's heads and the entitlement is crazy.
Let's go back to enjoying the ride and supporting the team. It might just work in our favour.
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:55 - Feb 11 with 1539 views | Herbivore |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:53 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Or people not posting new threads bemoaning moaners and then moaners moaning because a moaners moans In defence of the moaning in a thread about moaners. |
As you are often keen to point out, you don't have to reply. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 with 1546 views | DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:57 - Feb 11 with 1523 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:55 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
As you are often keen to point out, you don't have to reply. |
I was happy to. Still am
Just odd someone then posts moaning about me posting In a certain thread thats pretty much open to the head moaner. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:58 - Feb 11 with 1502 views | mrfixit426 |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:57 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
I was happy to. Still am
Just odd someone then posts moaning about me posting In a certain thread thats pretty much open to the head moaner. |
Oh god make it stop. |  | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:08 - Feb 11 with 1476 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:58 - Feb 11 by mrfixit426 |
Oh god make it stop. |
I literally laughed out loud at this comment, thanks! |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:09 - Feb 11 with 1470 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:08 - Feb 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I literally laughed out loud at this comment, thanks! |
Literally? [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 10:09]
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:11 - Feb 11 with 1468 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 by DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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Quite. You can’t legislate for Chappers missing from 15 yards out with a ball perfectly set on his favoured foot. Fine margins and all that.
It’s superb entertainment when you weigh it against the shapeless, clueless and/or just boring rubbish we’d been served up over the many years before KM arrived. Long may it continue. I’m frustrated we’ve dropped off, as I feel as though we’ve got to take our chance when we put ourselves in such a good position before KM is poached from is. It’s still an incredible season though in the context of our last decade or so. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 with 1457 views | Garv |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 by DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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A lot of people expected us to drop out of the top two in December. The fact it's taken until February to happen says it all, and we have a game on Leeds.
A lot of these last 9 games have come with mitigating circumstances as well. QPR is the extreme example with half our squad unavailable. Beating Leicester home or away was always a big ask, without Hirst since boxing day, without Morsy for three games, Davis for two games, illness affecting a few, the freak first half at Deepdale. Yesterday was the first time we've been at full strength for ages. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 with 1460 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 by DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:17 - Feb 11 with 1443 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. |
Or perhaps they are aware that this is the best season and best football we've played in nearly 20 years and context is key? |  | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:18 - Feb 11 with 1440 views | StokieBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. |
You've got no evidence to support that supposition, you've just made it to have another dig at the club. Watson has been consistent with that view on the podcast for weeks and everything he's said is accurate unlike what you've said.
I didn't want to get involved yesterday because I felt you were being deliberately provocative with your posting ("league one team - WTAF") so that you generated a lot of replies which you could then spend ages replying to.
That honestly seems to be the driving force at this point, your posts are deliberately provocative (like this one for example) in order to generate replies so you can spend the vast majority of your time posting on here.
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:18 - Feb 11 with 1439 views | itfcjoe |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:21 - Feb 11 with 1432 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:18 - Feb 11 by StokieBlue |
You've got no evidence to support that supposition, you've just made it to have another dig at the club. Watson has been consistent with that view on the podcast for weeks and everything he's said is accurate unlike what you've said.
I didn't want to get involved yesterday because I felt you were being deliberately provocative with your posting ("league one team - WTAF") so that you generated a lot of replies which you could then spend ages replying to.
That honestly seems to be the driving force at this point, your posts are deliberately provocative (like this one for example) in order to generate replies so you can spend the vast majority of your time posting on here.
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Actually I'm off out sb. Just thought it was sad for the local media to be such a way but hey we've had that chat before
Anyway have a good one | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:24 - Feb 11 with 1418 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:21 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Actually I'm off out sb. Just thought it was sad for the local media to be such a way but hey we've had that chat before
Anyway have a good one |
Sad that Watson (a respected journalist) is allowed to have an opinion, just like you (slightly less respected) are on here?
In an ideal world you just want your opinion to be the only one don't you? | |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:25 - Feb 11 with 1417 views | StokieBlue |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:21 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Actually I'm off out sb. Just thought it was sad for the local media to be such a way but hey we've had that chat before
Anyway have a good one |
Once again, you have no evidence that the local media don't believe or agree with what they are publishing. Just because you think that it doesn't make it correct without evidence.
If you go back and read my post you'll see my first example referred to yesterday.
You made this board awful to read yesterday with your utterly idiotic posting. You were picking fights with posters across multiple threads and trying to stimulate responses to reply to.
It's awful on here after some matchdays and a lot of that is down to you causing arguments everywhere.
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:26 - Feb 11 with 1415 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:18 - Feb 11 by StokieBlue |
You've got no evidence to support that supposition, you've just made it to have another dig at the club. Watson has been consistent with that view on the podcast for weeks and everything he's said is accurate unlike what you've said.
I didn't want to get involved yesterday because I felt you were being deliberately provocative with your posting ("league one team - WTAF") so that you generated a lot of replies which you could then spend ages replying to.
That honestly seems to be the driving force at this point, your posts are deliberately provocative (like this one for example) in order to generate replies so you can spend the vast majority of your time posting on here.
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You might have a point there. Now I'm not sure if replying to him his helping him out or doing him a disservice in the long run! | |
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| Do you simply ignore everyone that calls you out? on 10:26 - Feb 11 with 1419 views | Dyland |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. |
It's been explained countless times that local media, indeed any media, have always relied on a quid pro quo relationship for access to, well, anything where access is needed i.e. businesses like sports clubs. There is nothing sinister or unusual going on. You can get whatever news you like from any other source. Expecting the local rag to agree to your negative bias is another unrealistic thing, and another thing you double down on that makes you look silly. |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:28 - Feb 11 with 1407 views | Churchman |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 by DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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You really need to stop posting sane, interesting, accurate stuff like this when the witless warriors are in full cry.
Enjoying the ride is the key phrase. I would add that the team has looked a little dislocated and loose at times in the games I’ve seen in the last couple of months. Ive not seen the game back yet apart from the last 10 minutes (what a 10 minutes that was. It was full on) and the comments after.
One of the Sky bods made a comment that earlier in the season we were just passing and playing. For the first chunk of the game yesterday we were taking an extra touch, looked at times a little hesitant. Then we started to play and you could see the confidence flood in. I’m paraphrasing here but I think it’s an interesting point. By the end WBA didn’t know whether they were on their @rse or their armpit. And they’re a good side.
Back to your excellent post, I think there is an element of things going against us a bit, as is bound to happen over a long season. Ref decisions, unlucky injuries and suspensions at the wrong time (particularly the QPR game where we did well to get a point in the end), tough fixtures close together. Ok, we’ve lost the odd game, one or two heavily, but I expected us to take far more beatings than those at WBA and Leeds.
We’ve been in it, competitive and entertaining by and large. Even when we’ve dropped points. Exceeded my expectations anyway. Ok, we may not prove to be as good as the top three but we are not a mile off. The Leicester games, Saints and Leeds at home showed that.
I’ve seen back the first goal yesterday now. Yes, Woolfenden’s first decision wasn’t great, but the Albion player didn’t really bully him. He kind of slipped underneath him. It was one heck of a piece of play and while I felt Lladky was on the wrong foot and slightly out of position, the bloke smashed it in. Sometimes you have to credit the opposition. |  | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:34 - Feb 11 with 1390 views | Keno |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:58 - Feb 11 by mrfixit426 |
Oh god make it stop. |
^^^ POTD ^^^ |  |
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| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:39 - Feb 11 with 1377 views | Churchman |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:24 - Feb 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Sad that Watson (a respected journalist) is allowed to have an opinion, just like you (slightly less respected) are on here?
In an ideal world you just want your opinion to be the only one don't you? |
Please don’t ask him questions, Flash. Pleeeese. It just encourages him. Just let him toddle out and buy his Wes Burns face mask and Monster Munch for next week’s game. | | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:45 - Feb 11 with 1362 views | DJR |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 10:14 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Cor. That's a prime example of eadt being in chains.
Not a chance the old eadt puts that out during a win of 1 in 9.. no chance. |
The good thing with Stuart Watson's comments is that he brings a lot of objectivity into things, given he grew up an Everton fan. | | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 11:05 - Feb 11 with 1317 views | BloomBlue |
It's pure entitlement, by some fans.
We had a great start, all teams have a poor run in a season, look at Man City at the end of last year.
Too many entitled Town fans think football is more PlayStation than real world. We've been in L1 for a few years, we're now in the Championship up against three teams who were given millions for failure last season. That was always going to be a challenge, but instead of supporting the team too many simply want to moan for the sake of it.
I've lived in London for years and for years they've always told me the three most entitled set of fans in the country are Spurs, Newcastle and Ipswich. Unfortunately when I see the reaction of some Town fans I agree with them. |  | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 11:30 - Feb 11 with 1287 views | TMWWNGAS |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 08:05 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe |
This team is on track to get more points than we’ve ever got in the second tier - more than John Lyall’s league winners, more than any of Burley’s teams, more than Joe Royle’s teams…..but every week we have fans calling out players and the team as not being good enough |
To be fair and I think this is where it differs...
We are on track if you look at total season to date.
We are not on track if to look at the form over the last 8/9 games... and this is where this pettiness IMO begins as people's viewpoints, opinions and expectations are different (not wrong)
I for one would've taken play offs at the start of the season.
BUT we got ourselves into such a strong position and for want of a word threw it away. I'm also not daft, there are reasons for is tailing of in this manner Hirst/referees/less maginins going our way.
I do think relying on both Leeds and Soton to fall away is probably a bit of a steep hope.. but you never know... just so unfortunate for us the top 3 are so strong. | | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 12:03 - Feb 11 with 1245 views | stonojnr |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 09:56 - Feb 11 by DJR |
This is Stuart Watson's take.
In the last three games, Ipswich have faced 17 shots (seven on target) and conceded seven goals. By contrast, they've produced 84 shots (29 on target) and scored five. Earlier in the season, the Blues were winning fine margin games by being ultra clinical in both boxes. Now they're going through a spell where that's tipped the other way. General performance levels haven't suddenly dropped off a cliff though.
A very tricky set of winter fixtures has been negotiated. Town have only one game left against the current top-five now and that's Southampton at home on Easter Monday. The nine matches between now and then - starting with Wednesday night's trip to Millwall - are all against teams in the bottom half. January recruits can make a difference once fully bedded in.
Entertainment is consistently being delivered. Lessons have no doubt been learned. Momentum can be regained. What will be, will be. Keep enjoying the ride.
Take a look at that table. Newly-promoted Ipswich Town have reached the 30-game mark averaging two points-per-game. That's remarkable. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 9:57]
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which is all perfectly true and Im not criticising our position, it feels vaguely ludicrous to given where we were, to be that upset about things as they stand now.
for me the biggest issue currently is ok so when do we stop letting in cheap goals and start scoring properly again ?
everything seems to be geared to well the next game we'll get our mojo back for sure, but the next game always seems to be a repeat of the last game, and we need to break that cycle because before long it will affect how the season turns out.
thats the thing about this recent run of games, theyve all been pretty similar, with teams defending in numbers, packing out the box, and then scoring on the counter. .
so what happens if thats how all the teams facing us next decide to play against us ? as if I was an opposition manager looking to come play Ipswich, Id be setting up a team exactly like that. | | | |
| Over achieving and over criticising on 12:14 - Feb 11 with 1234 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I agree in the most part. The players have done incredible, every game minus like 2 we have been ultra competitive and great entertainment. The January business was superb imo. AAH looks very fun and Moore looks like exactly what we need. I think he played well yesterday and should've got more service. It has, without doubt been a roaring success of a season and it's also impossible I think to say we are out of the race for top 2. We are absolutely still in it. Even after a bad run of form.
That being said I also am fine with people being frustrated with 1 win in 9 when we repeatedly gift goals to the opposition week after week. Not so long ago we were what 12 point clear of 3rd or something now we are 4th. People are going to be frustrated. I dont think it makes them anti Ipswich or disrespectful supposing they aren't saying anything too extreme. It's just being a football fan.
One thing is for sure. The players absolutely deserve our support and not to be turned on. Regardless of who is in form or out of it. Get behind them. [Post edited 11 Feb 2024 12:17]
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