| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes 12:16 - Apr 14 with 3630 views | smithy69 |
Base this purely on form, fan pressure, squad availability, games left to come and current league standings,
1) Leicester
2) Ipswich
3) Leeds
4) Southampton |  | | |  |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:27 - Apr 14 with 3186 views | pointofblue |
Ipswich - 89
Hull (A) L
Coventry (A) D
Huddersfield (H) W
Total - 93
Leicester - 88
West Brom (H) D
Southampton (H) D
Preston (A) W
Blackburn (H) W
Total - 94
Leeds - 87
Middlesbrough (A) D
QPR (A) W
Southampton (H) W
Total - 94
Southampton - 81
Preston (H) W
Cardiff (A) W
Leicester (A) D
Stoke (H) W
Leeds (A) L
Total - 91
Probably Leicester with their three of four fixtures at home and Preston practically out of the play off race. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:32 - Apr 14 with 3164 views | dissboy2 |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:27 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Ipswich - 89
Hull (A) L
Coventry (A) D
Huddersfield (H) W
Total - 93
Leicester - 88
West Brom (H) D
Southampton (H) D
Preston (A) W
Blackburn (H) W
Total - 94
Leeds - 87
Middlesbrough (A) D
QPR (A) W
Southampton (H) W
Total - 94
Southampton - 81
Preston (H) W
Cardiff (A) W
Leicester (A) D
Stoke (H) W
Leeds (A) L
Total - 91
Probably Leicester with their three of four fixtures at home and Preston practically out of the play off race. |
easier to come from behind I think, so saints with momentum and more points to play for than others. | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:38 - Apr 14 with 3141 views | smithy69 |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:32 - Apr 14 by dissboy2 |
easier to come from behind I think, so saints with momentum and more points to play for than others. |
They have to play Leicester and Leeds plus 3 other games in 2.5 weeks. That workload will see them done IMO. Can see them taking points of those 2 potentially - but think they will struggle to breakdown 1/2 teams who will sit in like Cardiff etc | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:00 - Apr 14 with 3096 views | southnorfolkblue |
That would be my ranking too....but it's unbelievably tight between the top 3 imho. I think that we still benefit from the lack of expectation compared to the others and we have been in this position before | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:03 - Apr 14 with 3084 views | Illinoisblue |
Leicester with a game in hand and undoubted quality in their squad are clear favorites despite their wobble and fans dislike of their manager |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:20 - Apr 14 with 3047 views | Kropotkin123 |
Objectively, us. |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:23 - Apr 14 with 3030 views | Kropotkin123 |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:03 - Apr 14 by Illinoisblue |
Leicester with a game in hand and undoubted quality in their squad are clear favorites despite their wobble and fans dislike of their manager |
Two of those games are verses 4th and 5th and they wasted the easiest games any team has and are in terrible form, with a hostile fan base, and the mental fatigue of a team that let a 17 point gap slip. I'd rather be Southampton than them right now. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:32 - Apr 14 with 2993 views | Herbivore |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:27 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Ipswich - 89
Hull (A) L
Coventry (A) D
Huddersfield (H) W
Total - 93
Leicester - 88
West Brom (H) D
Southampton (H) D
Preston (A) W
Blackburn (H) W
Total - 94
Leeds - 87
Middlesbrough (A) D
QPR (A) W
Southampton (H) W
Total - 94
Southampton - 81
Preston (H) W
Cardiff (A) W
Leicester (A) D
Stoke (H) W
Leeds (A) L
Total - 91
Probably Leicester with their three of four fixtures at home and Preston practically out of the play off race. |
Spectacular turnaround in form for Leeds in particular but also Leicester whilst we continue to be indifferent. You're definitely a glass half full kinda guy. |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:37 - Apr 14 with 2973 views | J2BLUE |
Town.
2 point advantage, 2 week break, will know roughly what is needed by the time we play again and our two difficult away games may have become meaningless for our opponents. It's got to be us hasn't it?
Taking nothing for granted. The away games will still be difficult if they are playing with freedom but this is a great position to be in. Let's also hope the likes of Boro and QPR make things easier. |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 with 2852 views | pointofblue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:32 - Apr 14 by Herbivore |
Spectacular turnaround in form for Leeds in particular but also Leicester whilst we continue to be indifferent. You're definitely a glass half full kinda guy. |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 15:03 - Apr 14 with 2827 views | Herbivore |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
Again, that's a very pessimistic (and I'd say inaccurate) appraisal of our and others' recent matches. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 15:11 - Apr 14 with 2791 views | smithy69 |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
Disagree with pretty much most of
This - but that’s the joy of a forum
Didn’t think we looked flat yesterday at all. Midds are a decent team who if they had woken up earlier are a Top 6 team
Very dangerous on the break | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 15:37 - Apr 14 with 2739 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Points are far preferable to games in hand. We are second in the form table, 3 pts ahead to Leeds and 4 ahead of Leicester. Both of those have Southampton to play.
I would absolutely rather be us than them. |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 18:32 - Apr 14 with 2586 views | Coastalblue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
Leicester missed one absolute sitter against Millwall and were completely freadful for the rest of the game, they woke up a little from the 88th minute onwards.
They absolutely deserved to lose that game. I've not seen the Plymouth game so can't comment on that, but their supporters didn't seem to feel they were particularly hard done by. |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 19:09 - Apr 14 with 2512 views | textbackup |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 12:38 - Apr 14 by smithy69 |
They have to play Leicester and Leeds plus 3 other games in 2.5 weeks. That workload will see them done IMO. Can see them taking points of those 2 potentially - but think they will struggle to breakdown 1/2 teams who will sit in like Cardiff etc |
We seem to have seriously struggled with so many games in a short space of time… if Southampton come through that lot and make top 2 then fair play |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 21:40 - Apr 14 with 2390 views | SmithersJones |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
Based on xG, all three of us deserved to win our last two games. So if that carries on, chance conversion will be key (not the most revolutionary piece of analysis, I know). | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 21:56 - Apr 14 with 2325 views | Stewart27 |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 13:37 - Apr 14 by J2BLUE |
Town.
2 point advantage, 2 week break, will know roughly what is needed by the time we play again and our two difficult away games may have become meaningless for our opponents. It's got to be us hasn't it?
Taking nothing for granted. The away games will still be difficult if they are playing with freedom but this is a great position to be in. Let's also hope the likes of Boro and QPR make things easier. |
I agree we are in a great position.
But knowing what we need to do hasn’t helped us this week. | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 22:02 - Apr 14 with 2296 views | N2_Blue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
You didn't watch the Middlesborough game did you? |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 22:26 - Apr 14 with 2241 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 18:32 - Apr 14 by Coastalblue |
Leicester missed one absolute sitter against Millwall and were completely freadful for the rest of the game, they woke up a little from the 88th minute onwards.
They absolutely deserved to lose that game. I've not seen the Plymouth game so can't comment on that, but their supporters didn't seem to feel they were particularly hard done by. |
The difference in the Plymouth game was finishing and a couple of saves from the Plymouth keeper. Leicester's shooting was very poor. Plymouth took their chance very well. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 22:27 - Apr 14 with 2233 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 21:56 - Apr 14 by Stewart27 |
I agree we are in a great position.
But knowing what we need to do hasn’t helped us this week. |
Knowing a draw was enough and not panicking to the degree that we had lost didn't help us get those draws?
Of course two wins would have been better but, knowing what the others had done we bettered or matched their results. Do that for our last 3 matches and we are up! | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 23:22 - Apr 14 with 2155 views | Europablue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
I guess you are watching different matches. We also created chances, but didn't convert them, so by your logic, surely we deserved to win?
We've been playing pretty well considering how tired we are looking. A two week rest will do wonders. | | | |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 23:24 - Apr 14 with 2147 views | pointofblue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 22:02 - Apr 14 by N2_Blue |
You didn't watch the Middlesborough game did you? |
Considering Middlesbrough had two gilt edge chances in the second half which they should have converted... (though it would have been slightly unlucky as both were presented to them due to slips). | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 00:46 - Apr 15 with 2098 views | ITFCBlues |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 22:02 - Apr 14 by N2_Blue |
You didn't watch the Middlesborough game did you? |
Lots of huff and puff and a better performance, but Boro still missed the best chances, especially in that 2nd half |  |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 07:42 - Apr 15 with 1977 views | Herbivore |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 23:24 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Considering Middlesbrough had two gilt edge chances in the second half which they should have converted... (though it would have been slightly unlucky as both were presented to them due to slips). |
I know xG isn't a perfect metric, but our xG for and against versus Watford and Boro was pretty similar to the xG stats for Leeds and Leicester's last two games. For you to paint them as deserving to win and still creating chances whilst we are genuinely out of form shows a pretty significant amount of bias. We've deserved to win our last two at least as much as Leeds and Leicester deserved to win their last two. | |
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| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 08:25 - Apr 15 with 1942 views | StokieBlue |
| If you could be any of the Top 4 who would you want to be for going up purposes on 14:57 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Leeds did not deserve to lose recent games. They've created chances but not converted. As we know from last season, in that scenario things tend to eventually give.
Whereas we've looked flat for a while. Draws were probably fair results against Watford and Middlesbrough. We drifted around the hour mark at Blackburn and only switched on then versus Southampton. We didn't turn up at either Cardiff or Norwich.
If we return to the performances from pre Christmas then we'll go up automatically. If not, it will be a relative struggle. |
Leeds had less shots against Blackburn than we had against Middlesbrough. Seems a bit harsh to say they are creating chances and not converting when we are creating more chances but you've called us "flat".
We've certainly dropped off but the others have to an equal or worse extent.
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