| Hladky 09:06 - Jun 4 with 14004 views | BiGDonnie |
I think he'll be off. We'll be looking for a new number one and he wont' want to be on the bench - unless it's at a big club earning more than we'd pay.
Does that mean Walton will be no2 again? Will he agree/want that, or will we sign two new keepers?
In an ideal world we sell Walton and keep Hladky to compete with a new signing who's good with his feet.
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| Hladky on 10:18 - Jun 4 with 3342 views | Jimbo75 |
| Hladky on 09:34 - Jun 4 by Pencilpete |
Sorry but Hladky while great with his feet is a bang average shot stopper - you only have to look at the goals he conceded in the last month of the season .... Coventrys goal went straight through him, Hulls late equiliser was down to him parrying a weak header back into the danger zone, The Norwich free kick from 35 yards should NEVER beat him either ...... |
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| Hladky on 10:21 - Jun 4 with 3298 views | BiGDonnie |
| Hladky on 09:54 - Jun 4 by Steve_M |
Yes I think he might move on now. He's not good enough a keeper for the Premier League, he's conceded a few too many goals that he really shouldn't have done this season. That's obviously been compensated for by his use of the ball but it feels like if he does move on then it'll work out fine all round. |
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| Hladky on 10:22 - Jun 4 with 3299 views | N2_Blue |
| Hladky on 09:58 - Jun 4 by jayessess |
Weird take on Onana - literally made more saves than every other goalkeeper in the Premier League. |
yes but Onana made some absolute howlers irrespective of how many saves he made. Yet Haldky gets crucified for any he makes. Its almost like no keeper is immune to mistakes. I mean how many absolute howlers did Hlady make, I'll bet it was less than Onana over the course of the season.
Hladky may not be good enough to be our keeper in the PL but i just find it wierd that a top flight keeper that makes howlers gets supprt based on the number of saves he makes yet Hlady is given grief for the same thing.
*Note I'm not comparing the two keepers in terms of ability, Onana is obviously a better keeper* |  |
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| Hladky on 10:23 - Jun 4 with 3285 views | N2_Blue |
| Hladky on 10:16 - Jun 4 by soupytwist |
Suffolk might suit him, but he lives in Cambridge. |
ok same point though, quieter small city/town in rural area than big city lifestyle. | |
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| Hladky on 10:27 - Jun 4 with 3266 views | ITFCBlues |
| Hladky on 09:16 - Jun 4 by Guthrum |
Is there any reason why Hladky can't make the step up? Very decent shot-stopper, good with his feet and his brain. Might have been caught out a couple of times, but doesn't happen often and even then his reactions have saved things on occasion. |
I'm not so sure we'll be playing out from the back at the same level we do now. Think it'll be more direct next season.
But with regards to being a good shot stopper - he does have a mistake in him. See Norwich & Hull away towards the end of the season, even though he can also produce saves he has no right too - see Boro at home.
I think it's a position we need to upgrade on myself. The keeper is likely to be very busy next season so we need to have a very good one. |  |
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| Hladky on 10:33 - Jun 4 with 3236 views | Kieran_Knows |
I'd be tying to sign Alex Palmer from WBA. Was excellent in both games against us last season I thought. |  |
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| Hladky on 10:54 - Jun 4 with 3160 views | HighgateBlue |
| Hladky on 09:34 - Jun 4 by Guthrum |
The tricky thing with trying to improve a goalie is you have to get the balance exactly right.
Was having a conversation at the weekend with a ManU supporting mate about the change from de Gea (shot-stopper) to Onana (footballing 'keeper). He reckons they've gone too far across the spectrum and sacrificed the ability to prevent the concession of goals at the altar of possession.
For me, Hladky is pretty much in the sweet spot, capable of great saves and intelligent distribution. We tamper with that at our peril. |
Even in the era before tippy tappy keepers, we've got previous for buying a fancy expensive goalie for the sake of it, and it not going well. And we STILL haven't had that Lazio friendly! |  | | |
| Hladky on 11:01 - Jun 4 with 3125 views | Basuco |
I think he is too small to be a PL keeper, great with his feet as you would expect of a past outfield player, he made some great saves, but also let in a few that I felt he should have saved. In L1 and Championship players tend not to hit those top corners of the net or play difficult to read shots close to the post or bar. In the PL there will be a big jump in quality and will consistently hit the target. |  | | |
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| Hladky on 11:06 - Jun 4 with 3099 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Hladky on 09:22 - Jun 4 by BiGDonnie |
As good as he was last season I think we'll be looking to improve.
Like the look of Rushworth from Brighton. |
Rushworth had a terrible game against us at Portman Road, nearly miscontrolled one into his own net and the crowd got on his back as they soon found out he wasn't great with his feet.
Genuinely, if we are going for a better keeper who is average with his feet i'd rather go back to Christian Walton.
Or sign Palmer from WBA | | | |
| Hladky on 11:20 - Jun 4 with 3059 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hladky on 09:34 - Jun 4 by Pencilpete |
Sorry but Hladky while great with his feet is a bang average shot stopper - you only have to look at the goals he conceded in the last month of the season .... Coventrys goal went straight through him, Hulls late equiliser was down to him parrying a weak header back into the danger zone, The Norwich free kick from 35 yards should NEVER beat him either ...... |
He let in to or three sloppy goals last season that you would expect him to save and he palmed a couple into an oncoming striker which cost us a couple of goals. But he pulled off more more match winning saves that made the difference between going up automatically or being in the play offs. 5 against Leicester away, which got him Sky's MOTM award, the double save against Boro, the double save in the first game at Sunderland which defined our season, the fingertip to the shot at QPR which went of both posts, Coventry away, last minute against Watford at home, Plymouth at home where the entire ground stood to give him a standing ovation, which I've never seen before for a save. All games where the result balanced on fine margins in our favour. The list is endless.
With a keeper the mistakes are highlighted more. Our strikers missed a few that would have been easier to score but they are soon forgotten. [Post edited 4 Jun 2024 11:30]
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| Hladky on 11:22 - Jun 4 with 3041 views | Dennyx4 |
| Hladky on 11:20 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
He let in to or three sloppy goals last season that you would expect him to save and he palmed a couple into an oncoming striker which cost us a couple of goals. But he pulled off more more match winning saves that made the difference between going up automatically or being in the play offs. 5 against Leicester away, which got him Sky's MOTM award, the double save against Boro, the double save in the first game at Sunderland which defined our season, the fingertip to the shot at QPR which went of both posts, Coventry away, last minute against Watford at home, Plymouth at home where the entire ground stood to give him a standing ovation, which I've never seen before for a save. All games where the result balanced on fine margins in our favour. The list is endless.
With a keeper the mistakes are highlighted more. Our strikers missed a few that would have been easier to score but they are soon forgotten. [Post edited 4 Jun 2024 11:30]
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Wasn’t there rumours of Hladky going to Celtic to replace Joe Hart? Any noise from Glasgow on this? |  | | |
| Hladky on 11:33 - Jun 4 with 3007 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hladky on 11:22 - Jun 4 by Dennyx4 |
Wasn’t there rumours of Hladky going to Celtic to replace Joe Hart? Any noise from Glasgow on this? |
Not heard anything. | |
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| Hladky on 13:15 - Jun 4 with 2905 views | Vaughan8 |
| Hladky on 09:11 - Jun 4 by WeirdFishes |
I really hope we keep Hladky as #1, he’s so essential to how we play out from the back as aside from Ederson I genuinely can’t think of a keeper who comes close to him in that respect. |
I agree he was essential to how we play out, but lets be honest, we're now fishing in a bigger pond and we must be able to find a goalie who is as good (if not better) than him if we tried. How much they'd cost I don't know.
The fact we haven't got him signed up yet, but we've not released him suggests we want him, but not at some ridiculous wage. | | | |
| Hladky on 13:18 - Jun 4 with 2899 views | itfcjoe |
Would be a real blow to lose him, I don't necessarily think he'd be number 1 next season but he's a fantastic option if we can't get number 1 target over line until later in the window etc |  |
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| Hladky on 13:20 - Jun 4 with 2849 views | ElephantintheRoom |
He was not far off player of the year and a critical factor to the team’s style of play. Granted he hadn’t signed a new contract - but perhaps that’s the greedy, opportunistic manager’s fault?
You may as well go the whole hog and propose selling the skipper. Ill disciplined and a year older and slower. Or think of his good points. | |
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| Hladky on 13:29 - Jun 4 with 2823 views | Guthrum |
| Hladky on 10:27 - Jun 4 by ITFCBlues |
I'm not so sure we'll be playing out from the back at the same level we do now. Think it'll be more direct next season.
But with regards to being a good shot stopper - he does have a mistake in him. See Norwich & Hull away towards the end of the season, even though he can also produce saves he has no right too - see Boro at home.
I think it's a position we need to upgrade on myself. The keeper is likely to be very busy next season so we need to have a very good one. |
I agree we won't be playing out from the back in the same way - expect there'll be no need to invite the press! But that's all the more reason to have a 'keeper who knows when to pass and when to go long, plus having the confidence to come out of his area to tidy up. |  |
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| Hladky on 13:37 - Jun 4 with 2810 views | Guthrum |
| Hladky on 09:52 - Jun 4 by Pencilpete |
Don't get me wrong here - i don't hate Hladky i'm just giving my opinion he's great with his feet which is a big part of how we play but his shot stopping is certainly not 'great' as was previously stated.
You have to remember we are going up to high quality league where he will be facing a lot more shots than he did last season and if he's conceding free kicks like the one he did at Norwich (where ironically his footwork was non existent) the Hull goal where he parries a weak header back into the danger zone or the one at Coventry where the shot goes straight through him then we are going to be in trouble
i'd happily keep Hladky but only as a No.2 if i had a choice i'd be investing in a top quality keeper like Kelleher from Liverpool who apparantly wants to leave to be a No.1 |
Indeed. Not saying we can't improve, but will need to be careful. | |
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| Hladky on 13:49 - Jun 4 with 2752 views | ipswichtillidie |
I think we’ll sign a new number 1 too. He will be offered a new contract but told he’ll be fighting for his place with a new incoming keeper. Reckon he’ll end up staying and fighting for his place in the end as suspect he won’t get a better offer than what’s here. Been fantastic for us but I think even the most blue tinted supporter can see his floors. |  |
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| Hladky on 15:31 - Jun 4 with 2618 views | Vegtablue |
Rushworth is my suggestion from the Championship.
Cooper, Hermansen, Gunn, and Rushworth were the top shot-stoppers last season according to Opta. Cooper and Rushworth also shone in L1 last season, recording save percentages of 77.6% and 77.7%, significantly above Walton's 71.0%. I believe both are a safe bet to continue performing at this level or higher, providing they stay injury-free. Hladky outperformed Palmer in "goal prevention" and cross-stopping last season, while also being streets ahead with his feet, so it would surprise me if he's on our radar.
Cooper's cross-stopping percentage is freakishly high but I have reservations about his ability with his feet. Plymouth forum contributors have suggested he's miles off top level in this regard, as brilliant as he is in other aspects. He's also had his injury difficulties.
Swansea, like Brighton, are known for their footballing principles and so too are England, with Rushworth part of the U21 setup. Rushworth's also been working under England's GK coach this season, who happens to be combining the Swansea and England jobs. He won Swansea's POTS awards and is rumoured to be available this summer. This from Swansea's official site:
"The goalkeeper has enjoyed a superb season on loan from Brighton, keeping 10 clean sheets, making a number of eye-catching stops, and impressing with his distribution.
Among the standout moments were a key double stop in the win at Plymouth, athletic saves home and away against Leicester City, and – most recently – an incredible accurate kick downfield to set in motion the counter-attack for the Swans second goal at Huddersfield." | | | |
| Hladky on 16:15 - Jun 4 with 2543 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Hladky on 15:31 - Jun 4 by Vegtablue |
Rushworth is my suggestion from the Championship.
Cooper, Hermansen, Gunn, and Rushworth were the top shot-stoppers last season according to Opta. Cooper and Rushworth also shone in L1 last season, recording save percentages of 77.6% and 77.7%, significantly above Walton's 71.0%. I believe both are a safe bet to continue performing at this level or higher, providing they stay injury-free. Hladky outperformed Palmer in "goal prevention" and cross-stopping last season, while also being streets ahead with his feet, so it would surprise me if he's on our radar.
Cooper's cross-stopping percentage is freakishly high but I have reservations about his ability with his feet. Plymouth forum contributors have suggested he's miles off top level in this regard, as brilliant as he is in other aspects. He's also had his injury difficulties.
Swansea, like Brighton, are known for their footballing principles and so too are England, with Rushworth part of the U21 setup. Rushworth's also been working under England's GK coach this season, who happens to be combining the Swansea and England jobs. He won Swansea's POTS awards and is rumoured to be available this summer. This from Swansea's official site:
"The goalkeeper has enjoyed a superb season on loan from Brighton, keeping 10 clean sheets, making a number of eye-catching stops, and impressing with his distribution.
Among the standout moments were a key double stop in the win at Plymouth, athletic saves home and away against Leicester City, and – most recently – an incredible accurate kick downfield to set in motion the counter-attack for the Swans second goal at Huddersfield." |
Rushworth was horrific at Portman Road with his distribution and we nearly scored when he miscontrolled a pass back.
Whilst you can never make an opinion on one game i'd advise anyone to rewatch the first 30 minutes of Ipswich 3 Swansea 2 and try to argue he is a genuine upgrade on Hladky. | | | |
| Hladky on 16:35 - Jun 4 with 2506 views | baxterbasics |
Along with others I agree Hladders has been great but clearly a few weak spots. We can improve and he may need to be prepared to at least compete for his spot. |  |
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| Hladky on 17:03 - Jun 4 with 2436 views | Vegtablue |
| Hladky on 16:15 - Jun 4 by burnbudgiesburn |
Rushworth was horrific at Portman Road with his distribution and we nearly scored when he miscontrolled a pass back.
Whilst you can never make an opinion on one game i'd advise anyone to rewatch the first 30 minutes of Ipswich 3 Swansea 2 and try to argue he is a genuine upgrade on Hladky. |
I remember the performance but, as you say, it may well speak to the jeopardy of judging players on one game. Many may remember the cultish fascination in Armstrong after his performance at Loftus Road, when in reality he's rated 331st out of 340 for his displays last season.
There isn't a Championship option who would compare favourably with their feet, maybe Hermansen aside, but the only Swansea comments I've read in respect to distribution and ball control have been positive. West Brom and Plymouth fans, conversely, have remarked on Palmer and Cooper's shortcomings here without pushback. In the case of Palmer, he's also had a solid but unremarkable season with the gloves. Clean sheet records arguably contradict this, but that stat doesn't address the importance of the whole defensive unit in delivering clean sheets IMO.
If we're genuinely in the market for a new #1 though, I hope our net is cast wider than just the Championship. | | | |
| Hladky on 17:03 - Jun 4 with 2436 views | Blue_Heath |
Likely off to Celtic with Joe Hart having retired. | | | |
| Hladky on 17:40 - Jun 4 with 2326 views | baxterbasics |
| Hladky on 17:03 - Jun 4 by Blue_Heath |
Likely off to Celtic with Joe Hart having retired. |
Problem is there's an estate-agent type chain here... don't think we can let him go until a replacement is in the bag. Not that we can stop him if he decides now that contract is up. | |
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| Hladky on 17:57 - Jun 4 with 2292 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hladky on 09:58 - Jun 4 by jayessess |
Weird take on Onana - literally made more saves than every other goalkeeper in the Premier League. |
Would love to know how many fk ups he made tho. Seemed like a lot.
Its strange though that a man utd keeper should face so many shots. |  |
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