| How is Sunak so bad at this? 22:39 - Jun 6 with 10805 views | Dubtractor |
Imagine thinking that leaving the D Day event early, so that you can get on the TV do do an interview about not being a liar, and not considering just how bad that looks?
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:50 - Jun 7 with 2685 views | Ryorry |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:37 - Jun 7 by bluelagos |
The post you linked - the guy deleted after realising it was a parody advert.
Edit: This is the guy who did it.
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:54 - Jun 7 with 2653 views | Churchman |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:23 - Jun 7 by Blueschev |
It was incredibly stupid of Sunak given how obvious the reaction would be in the press. But this story feels like another example of the state of politics and the media in this country. Another sensationalist story to distract from actual policy discussion. Should this be such a big story? It is not as though he didn't turn up at all. |
Yes, it was good of him to bother to turn up. I mean, I presume he sorted bookings with Ryanair or somebody, organised the taxi, spot of early brekkie at Garfunkels and everything. That he really made an effort, managed to devote a little bit of his time out of that busy, critical schedule for something he wasn’t interested in is very commendable.
Policy discussion? They don’t need to discuss them. We know what they are. Scorched earth cuts, cuts, cuts, fill theirs and their friends boots £££.
Yesterday’s showed at best a complete lack of judgement, at worst total disinterest in something that was actually very important. Far more important than a pathetic interview spewing yet more lies on ITV. Yes, it’s a big story. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:16 - Jun 7 with 2620 views | Blueschev |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:54 - Jun 7 by Churchman |
Yes, it was good of him to bother to turn up. I mean, I presume he sorted bookings with Ryanair or somebody, organised the taxi, spot of early brekkie at Garfunkels and everything. That he really made an effort, managed to devote a little bit of his time out of that busy, critical schedule for something he wasn’t interested in is very commendable.
Policy discussion? They don’t need to discuss them. We know what they are. Scorched earth cuts, cuts, cuts, fill theirs and their friends boots £££.
Yesterday’s showed at best a complete lack of judgement, at worst total disinterest in something that was actually very important. Far more important than a pathetic interview spewing yet more lies on ITV. Yes, it’s a big story. |
I don't disagree, I just feel that the focus should be on the Tories appalling record after 14 years and the damage they have caused. And what the opposition plans to do to rectify that damage, rather than this sensationalist nonsense about who's "won" the D Day memorial in the press. It's actually quite disrespectful how overly politicised it has become. At least that's how I feel. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:33 - Jun 7 with 2590 views | OldFart71 |
Any minute chance Sunak had of continuing in office after the General Election he has surely blown. As the head of the main political party representing a Country at the heart of D Day operations to leave Cameron a former PM who lobbied the Government to bail out a Company he was involved with having been very well paid by them. Then being made a Lord in order to get him back in as a Minister left with the job of doing what Sunak should have done is nothing short of being a slap in the face for those brave veterans still living. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:46 - Jun 7 with 2572 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
I have to admit to some sympathy for Sunak on this issue. He needed to be back leading the election campaign. After all, those lies aren't going to tell themselves. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 19:16 - Jun 7 with 2524 views | giant_stow |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:16 - Jun 7 by Blueschev |
I don't disagree, I just feel that the focus should be on the Tories appalling record after 14 years and the damage they have caused. And what the opposition plans to do to rectify that damage, rather than this sensationalist nonsense about who's "won" the D Day memorial in the press. It's actually quite disrespectful how overly politicised it has become. At least that's how I feel. |
I get what you mean about there being bigger issues debate, but not the politicising bit. Sunak made it political by putting that crappola interview first - he's got a massive nerve to the complain about political reaction. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 20:41 - Jun 7 with 2450 views | Guthrum |
Another thing about Sunak is that he's only ever fought one truly competitive election in his life - which he lost to Liz Truss. His second leadership "contest" wasn't one, as they were desperate not to go to the membership.
When he took over the seat of Richmond in Yorkshire from William Hague in 2015, it was one of the safest Conservative seats in the country, with a majority of over 23,000 (taking 63% of votes cast) the previous election. Hardly a stiff challenge to retain, then and since. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 08:14 - Jun 8 with 2336 views | DJR |
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Sunak, by snubbing the international commemoration, not only insulted British veterans but also our allies and the many millions who fought alongside us.
Indeed, for Sunak to attend only the British commemoration in Normandy smacks to me of the type of thinking that is was plucky Blighty which won the war single-handedly. Such thinking strikes me as the type of thinking underlying Brexit, and it makes me wonder whether Sunak's decision was deliberate so as there not to be photos of him during an election campaign alongside Macron and Scholz. But whatever the reason, what he did seems emblematic of the type of isolation that Brexit entails. [Post edited 8 Jun 2024 8:16]
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:03 - Jun 8 with 2220 views | Ryorry |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:16 - Jun 7 by Blueschev |
I don't disagree, I just feel that the focus should be on the Tories appalling record after 14 years and the damage they have caused. And what the opposition plans to do to rectify that damage, rather than this sensationalist nonsense about who's "won" the D Day memorial in the press. It's actually quite disrespectful how overly politicised it has become. At least that's how I feel. |
But the issue IS all about the Tories continuingly appalling and awful record.
International co-operation & unity
Defence
As well as it being a totally crass, stupid, unfeeling, insensitive & unstatesman-like thing to do. | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:31 - Jun 8 with 2167 views | stonojnr |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 19:16 - Jun 7 by giant_stow |
I get what you mean about there being bigger issues debate, but not the politicising bit. Sunak made it political by putting that crappola interview first - he's got a massive nerve to the complain about political reaction. |
its a distraction technique, and obviously the line his team had agreed on to try and justify their decision if asked questions by the press on it, when they thought it would be almost just a 1 question 1 answer press move on quickly kind of thing.
and Sunak would love nothing more than to be just questioned on the past 14 years of policy, thats he's one strength as he'll reel off stats and figures that will paint those policies in the best light.
but in terms of electing politicians and a government, and eventually for the leader of that party in government to be a prime minister, its more than just about policies and stats and figures, its the prime ministerial things about representing the UK at international events alongside other world leaders.
the ITV interview was arranged apparently only days before, so he was actually just flying home originally to do nothing. | | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 20:57 - Jun 8 with 2065 views | GlasgowBlue |
It gets worse. It's now being reported that the King, who as we know is suffering from cancer, was advised by his doctors not tom travel but was determined to be there to represent the country. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:19 - Jun 9 with 1933 views | GlasgowBlue |
Deary me.
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:37 - Jun 9 with 1920 views | Ryorry |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:19 - Jun 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Deary me.
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I saw this and decided to look up the Labour candidate. (He) Left school with no qualifications, did 11 years as a paratrooper, 22-year business owner, plus a youth mentor, and more – what an amazing MP he’d make!" | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:56 - Jun 9 with 1858 views | Radlett_blue |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 20:57 - Jun 8 by GlasgowBlue |
It gets worse. It's now being reported that the King, who as we know is suffering from cancer, was advised by his doctors not tom travel but was determined to be there to represent the country. |
The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties. The PM attending such events is effectively for cosmetic PR & photo opportunities. Far bigger & better sticks with which to beat Sunak on policy & poor political judgement. This thing reminds me when the press went nuclear over Leader of the Opposition Michael Foot wearing a scruffy coat at a remembrance day occasion. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 10:25 - Jun 9 with 1792 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:56 - Jun 9 by Radlett_blue |
The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties. The PM attending such events is effectively for cosmetic PR & photo opportunities. Far bigger & better sticks with which to beat Sunak on policy & poor political judgement. This thing reminds me when the press went nuclear over Leader of the Opposition Michael Foot wearing a scruffy coat at a remembrance day occasion. |
Not remotely comparable.
This was about his mindset, priorities, understanding of what is required of a leader on the international as well as domestic stage. The fact that, he could not see this coming, despite having started an election campaign in which he and advisers will have been looking ever more closely at publicity issues, demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding and judgment. Probably driven by arrogance and an insular bubble. | | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:16 - Jun 9 with 1706 views | Mullet |
My favourite one so far |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 18:06 - Jun 9 with 1665 views | Ryorry |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:56 - Jun 9 by Radlett_blue |
The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties. The PM attending such events is effectively for cosmetic PR & photo opportunities. Far bigger & better sticks with which to beat Sunak on policy & poor political judgement. This thing reminds me when the press went nuclear over Leader of the Opposition Michael Foot wearing a scruffy coat at a remembrance day occasion. |
You should read Keno’s thread, including The Times article he linked.
This was absolutely NOT just cosmetic/ceremonial. It was about feeling and showing respect and thanks, showing unity, strengthening bonds with other world leaders, exchanging information and ideas behind the scenes about strategies re Putin, Russia, Ukraine and defence generally etc with Biden, Zelenskyy, Macron and the German Chancellor.
Sunak appears not to understand that if it weren’t for those who fought with the Allies in WW2 to defeat Nazi Germany, he wouldn’t have had the life or freedom he does now to pursue his political career. He needed to show his respect and gratitude for that, but as usual, only thought of himself. [Post edited 9 Jun 2024 18:09]
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 19:17 - Jun 9 with 1581 views | Dubtractor |
Another good day for the tories.....
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 19:18 - Jun 9 with 1579 views | GlasgowBlue |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:56 - Jun 9 by Radlett_blue |
The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties. The PM attending such events is effectively for cosmetic PR & photo opportunities. Far bigger & better sticks with which to beat Sunak on policy & poor political judgement. This thing reminds me when the press went nuclear over Leader of the Opposition Michael Foot wearing a scruffy coat at a remembrance day occasion. |
"The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties".
The King is a 75 year old man who is suffering from cancer. He is in constant pain and his doctors advised him not to make the journey to France and attend the commemoration. Despite this, he felt it was his duty to attend. The Prime Minister couldn't wait to get out of there. | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 20:02 - Jun 9 with 1544 views | Churchman |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 19:18 - Jun 9 by GlasgowBlue |
"The monarch has nothing else to do, beyond ceremonial duties".
The King is a 75 year old man who is suffering from cancer. He is in constant pain and his doctors advised him not to make the journey to France and attend the commemoration. Despite this, he felt it was his duty to attend. The Prime Minister couldn't wait to get out of there. |
King Charles has a sense of duty, Ratty Sunak has a sense of wallet.
I’m sure our beloved PM is planning how much money he can make from a crummy book, lecture circuit, articles when he’s thrown out in July. Despite being worth a fortune those greedy, dead eyes will always want more.
Edit: one cared, one didn’t. It was important to one, unimportant to the other. [Post edited 9 Jun 2024 20:19]
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