| How is Sunak so bad at this? 22:39 - Jun 6 with 10803 views | Dubtractor |
Imagine thinking that leaving the D Day event early, so that you can get on the TV do do an interview about not being a liar, and not considering just how bad that looks?
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 10:07 - Jun 7 with 1894 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:59 - Jun 7 by giant_stow |
It seems daft innit, but there's been so many missteps and cockups, the thought keeps coming back. |
Does someone have the details somewhere?
The apology says he left after the conclusion (which is not entirely unreasonable) but all the reports talk of leaving early.
Do we know which is correct? |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 10:10 - Jun 7 with 1884 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 07:17 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m old enough to remember the outrage at a Michael Foot wearing what the press referred to as a Donkey jacket at the cenotaph in 1981. He was portrayed as disloyal and disrespectful of those who died in the war.
Now magnify that by 1,000,000. Wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t calls within the Tory party for him to resign as leader. Either way, he’ll be on the six o’clock news tonight offering a. Humble apology but this is going to follow him around the campaign. Farage will be all over it. [Post edited 7 Jun 2024 7:26]
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The Farage who used to go around town singing Nazi songs? That Farage?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-ga
I suppose when it comes to shockingly timed and highly unnecessary, self-defeating withdrawals from Europe, Farage is the chief architect and all-round expert, though. | | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 10:15 - Jun 7 with 1867 views | Guthrum |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:51 - Jun 7 by DJR |
I suppose the 2017 election should have been a foregone conclusion too for pretty similar reasons, but it didn't work out that way, and some credit must be given for slogans like "Get Brexit Done" and "Oven Ready Deal", combined with keeping Johnson away from the media (eg. he shunned an interview with Andrew Neil) because they knew that he like Theresa May wasn't very good when it came to scrutiny. [Post edited 7 Jun 2024 9:52]
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Things weren't flowing as strongly for Labour in 2017 as they were the other way two-and-a-half years later. The former already had the leader and some of the same structural/presentation issues which led to failure in '19.
Plus the Conservatives were only two years into government in their own right. Only once has a party has been voted from power after such a short time since the 19th century, being Ramsay MacDonald's minority Labour government in 1923-24. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:16 - Jun 7 with 1788 views | DJR |
I posted the following on the Farage thread a couple of days ago, but this is perhaps the moment at which my suggested scenario becomes a little more likely, with lots of Tory supporters switching to Reform. Certainly, Nadine Dorries is now envisaging the annihilation of the Tory Party, For what is worth, I think it would be an effective takeover of the Tory Party (rather than Reform taking its place) because the Tory Party has the election infrastructure on the ground.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/06/general-election-latest-news-ris
I suppose there is a remote scenario in which he ends up leader of the Tory Party much sooner than that.
He is elected as a Reform MP, Reform run the Tories close in terms of the vote or even beat the Tories, there is chaos in the Tory ranks, he switches sides to the Tories (perhaps as a type of peace offering) before any leadership election, he gets on the ballot paper on the strength of the ERG (some of them have said they would like him in the Tory Party), and wins the vote of the members (many of whom these days are former UKIP members).
Maybe this is too far fetched, and would depend on the make-up of the Parliamentary party after the election. [Post edited 7 Jun 2024 13:38]
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:24 - Jun 7 with 1773 views | Ryorry |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:52 - Jun 7 by Meadowlark |
Just wondering about the pile-on because of this?
He's been a member and in charge of the most corrupt government in living memory. He's overseen a system that has handed billions to crooks and liars and has taken money back off them for favours. His government has virtually destroyed the NHS, made the railways a cash cow for investors and ruined it for passengers. They've plunged millions into poverty while profiting personally and raised personal taxes to a record level to pay for their perks. Not even mentioning the mayhem and disaster of Brexit.
But it's only now that he's a tvvat because he left a ceremony early??? |
You don't spend as much time on here as some, so may not have seen that TWTD has also consistently caned him & the tory party generally for all those failings over many months & years.
In any case, it's more a question of how he's perceived "out there", not on here (where the vast majority would never vote tory) that counts. Yesterday will (we hope) cause the scales to fall from the eyes of many Tories who were until then still entrenched. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:28 - Jun 7 with 1759 views | noggin |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 22:42 - Jun 6 by J2BLUE |
I thought it was pretty cheap announcing the veteran rail card as well. Just shut your mouth and stop campaigning for a day then announce it tomorrow. |
What di he announce? The Veterans Railcard has been around for a few years now and veterans have to pay for it. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:30 - Jun 7 with 1731 views | GlasgowBlue |
Yes that Farage. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:33 - Jun 7 with 1735 views | Guthrum |
He's an investment banker playing at being a politician. | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:35 - Jun 7 with 1709 views | Churchman |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 11:24 - Jun 7 by Ryorry |
You don't spend as much time on here as some, so may not have seen that TWTD has also consistently caned him & the tory party generally for all those failings over many months & years.
In any case, it's more a question of how he's perceived "out there", not on here (where the vast majority would never vote tory) that counts. Yesterday will (we hope) cause the scales to fall from the eyes of many Tories who were until then still entrenched. |
Spot on Ryorry. These lowlifes have been hammered on TWTD for years. The problem is the for the die hards like a couple of friends of mine, the bogus argument ‘the other lot are worse’ will always prevail sadly. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:14 - Jun 7 with 1634 views | baxterbasics |
whoever his advisors/handlers are clearly need sacking. Unless it really is deliberate. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:20 - Jun 7 with 1614 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:14 - Jun 7 by baxterbasics |
whoever his advisors/handlers are clearly need sacking. Unless it really is deliberate. |
He is the PM. Its not advisers who make final decisions about whether to attend the full D Day commemoration.
Even now he is spinning. Trying to make it solely about "respect for veterans" and pleading some things he has supposedly done to assist them previously. Its not just about veterans Rishi, it is so much wider.
It is:
Statesmanship- how the nation looks on the world stage when you duck out leaving Biden and Macron with Cameron
Your judgment and inability to know what levels of integrity and duty are expected of a pm
Your priorities
Your ability to understand the emotions and views of ordinary people.
etc [Post edited 7 Jun 2024 13:26]
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:36 - Jun 7 with 1563 views | Herbivore |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 09:52 - Jun 7 by Meadowlark |
Just wondering about the pile-on because of this?
He's been a member and in charge of the most corrupt government in living memory. He's overseen a system that has handed billions to crooks and liars and has taken money back off them for favours. His government has virtually destroyed the NHS, made the railways a cash cow for investors and ruined it for passengers. They've plunged millions into poverty while profiting personally and raised personal taxes to a record level to pay for their perks. Not even mentioning the mayhem and disaster of Brexit.
But it's only now that he's a tvvat because he left a ceremony early??? |
I think the people that see what you see are already very anti-Tory and anti-Sunak, quite rightly. However, the 35% or so of the country that will vote Tory or Reform don't really give a toss about any of that, the destruction of the country and basic competence and decency don't seem to matter to them. However, disrespect veterans of war they never fought in on one of the two days a year they performatively care about such things and those voters will lose their sh!t. This is likely to further damage Sunak and with a demographic that, because they're a bit mad or a bit mean, would actually have considered voting for him. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:36 - Jun 7 with 1563 views | chicoazul |
Seems pretty clear now he is being sabotaged internally. |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:13 - Jun 7 with 1497 views | lowhouseblue |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 13:36 - Jun 7 by chicoazul |
Seems pretty clear now he is being sabotaged internally. |
really? he obviously agreed to get on the plane and go back for the itv interview, so he is really that thick. so surely he's also thick enough to have come up with the idea in the first place? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:31 - Jun 7 with 1448 views | stonojnr |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 10:07 - Jun 7 by redrickstuhaart |
Does someone have the details somewhere?
The apology says he left after the conclusion (which is not entirely unreasonable) but all the reports talk of leaving early.
Do we know which is correct? |
There were several commemorative events, there was the UK led event which Sunak attended.
But there was an international leaders event on Omaha beach in the afternoon, which he left Cameron to do for him | | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:44 - Jun 7 with 1437 views | Steve_M |
In more The Thick of it News:
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:48 - Jun 7 with 1428 views | BlueForYou |
I heard he had to leave early to catch the 4pm dinghy back to Dover. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:52 - Jun 7 with 1413 views | bluelagos |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:44 - Jun 7 by Steve_M |
In more The Thick of it News:
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No, sorry, that's clearly fake. It simply can't be real can it? |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 15:12 - Jun 7 with 1366 views | GeoffSentence |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 14:52 - Jun 7 by bluelagos |
No, sorry, that's clearly fake. It simply can't be real can it? |
He has been in Gloucestershire today
https://www.greatoldbury.org.uk/
Great Oldbury Primary Academy, Veterans Way, Great Oldbury, Stonehouse, GL10 3WH |  |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 16:29 - Jun 7 with 1312 views | GlasgowBlue |
Ouch!
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:05 - Jun 7 with 1272 views | bluelagos |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 16:29 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Ouch!
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Am guessing you linked this? (Which is parody before anyone has a meltdown)
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:23 - Jun 7 with 1208 views | Blueschev |
It was incredibly stupid of Sunak given how obvious the reaction would be in the press. But this story feels like another example of the state of politics and the media in this country. Another sensationalist story to distract from actual policy discussion. Should this be such a big story? It is not as though he didn't turn up at all. |  | | |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:29 - Jun 7 with 1183 views | GlasgowBlue |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:05 - Jun 7 by bluelagos |
Am guessing you linked this? (Which is parody before anyone has a meltdown)
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That’s the one. Been pulled? | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:33 - Jun 7 with 1167 views | bluelagos |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:23 - Jun 7 by Blueschev |
It was incredibly stupid of Sunak given how obvious the reaction would be in the press. But this story feels like another example of the state of politics and the media in this country. Another sensationalist story to distract from actual policy discussion. Should this be such a big story? It is not as though he didn't turn up at all. |
Not for me - I think It is a big story because to vote for a party people consider 3 things.
1. What policies they have?
2. Is the leader a person they like?
3. is the leader (and govt) competent?
The whole thing shines a light on the character of Sunak (Party before country) and his (and his team's) competence. So it is very much a big story albeit the policies of the parties are not addressed, absolutely. | |
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| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:37 - Jun 7 with 1145 views | bluelagos |
| How is Sunak so bad at this? on 17:29 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
That’s the one. Been pulled? |
The post you linked - the guy deleted after realising it was a parody advert.
Edit: This is the guy who did it.
[Post edited 7 Jun 2024 17:42]
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