| Why me? 21:24 - Jun 20 with 2602 views | DJR |
The Telegraph MRP poll today predicts only 53 Tory seats at the general election, but sadly my constituency is one of those 53.
What did I do in a former life to deserve this? [Post edited 20 Jun 2024 21:28]
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| Why me? on 00:25 - Jun 21 with 2449 views | MattinLondon |
You obviously did something really bad in a former life. My guess is that you walked out of a cinema in the early 80s and told a waiting kid that Darth Vader was Luke’s father. How could you? Scum. |  | | |
| Why me? on 06:48 - Jun 21 with 2311 views | Churchman |
So is mine. The appalling Laura Trott. Shame Count Binface isn’t standing in Sevenoaks.
When you think about it, they should be over the moon with 53 seats. That is about 8% of the HoC. Given they represent about 1% of the people they’ll have over achieved. |  | | |
| Why me? on 08:19 - Jun 21 with 2234 views | GeoffSentence |
Not sure if it's the actual case, but I have the feeling that polls tend to under-represent how the tories actually do in elections.
I hope not though, I'd be delighted if this lot of incompetent, dishonest, corrupt clowns ended up in third place, with Lib Dems in opposition. |  |
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| Why me? on 08:41 - Jun 21 with 2197 views | baxterbasics |
That's at the worst case scenario end of things.
I wonder how big the 'shy tory' effect will be this time. There's usually a few but this election feels like it might be different. |  |
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| Why me? on 09:39 - Jun 21 with 2070 views | Whos_blue |
Haven't seen the poll DJ.
Is South Cambs on it?
Been tory since the 30's I think.
Lib Dems campaigning hard at the moment.
They're probably the only viable opposition at the moment. |  |
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| Why me? on 09:40 - Jun 21 with 2067 views | StokieBlue |
I think that polling agency has a very dubious methodology.
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| Why me? on 09:47 - Jun 21 with 2047 views | DarkBrandon |
| Why me? on 09:39 - Jun 21 by Whos_blue |
Haven't seen the poll DJ.
Is South Cambs on it?
Been tory since the 30's I think.
Lib Dems campaigning hard at the moment.
They're probably the only viable opposition at the moment. |
South Cambs will definitely be a LD seat. Boundary changes push it in that direction, on top of the obvious collapse in the Tory vote and the fact it was a marginal anyway.
The sitting MP has moved to St Neots and Mid Cambs, where he has a decent chance as it is basically now a three way marginal |  | | |
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| Why me? on 11:59 - Jun 21 with 1891 views | BlueNomad |
So - what are Tom Hunt's chances??? |  | | |
| Why me? on 14:08 - Jun 21 with 1815 views | MattinLondon |
| Why me? on 11:59 - Jun 21 by BlueNomad |
So - what are Tom Hunt's chances??? |
Chances of re-election - slim.
Chances of landing on his feet with a really well paid job for not doing a lot - good.
Chances of being wheeled out on GN News to get offended by something that hasn’t happened - pretty damn high. | | | |
| Why me? on 14:17 - Jun 21 with 1775 views | Zx1988 |
| Why me? on 08:41 - Jun 21 by baxterbasics |
That's at the worst case scenario end of things.
I wonder how big the 'shy tory' effect will be this time. There's usually a few but this election feels like it might be different. |
That's the interesting point, and something I was pondering earlier.
I wouldn't be surprised if we would need to add 'Shy Reform' into the mix as well, which could further complicate things.
We could have Tory voters either responding 'don't know' or saying that they'll be voting for a progressive party, whilst Reform voters might be declaring a Tory vote.
It'll be very interesting to see how everything washes up come 2205hrs on 4th July. |  |
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| Why me? on 14:27 - Jun 21 with 1745 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Why me? on 08:19 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Not sure if it's the actual case, but I have the feeling that polls tend to under-represent how the tories actually do in elections.
I hope not though, I'd be delighted if this lot of incompetent, dishonest, corrupt clowns ended up in third place, with Lib Dems in opposition. |
For sure. There are loads of embarrassed Tory voters around (and rightly so - embarrassed that is). |  |
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| Why me? on 17:06 - Jun 21 with 1674 views | Mullet |
| Why me? on 09:40 - Jun 21 by StokieBlue |
I think that polling agency has a very dubious methodology.
SB |
Called the Red Wall Brexit collapse didn;t it?
Seems because it's new there's a divisive element to how people view it too. |  |
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| Why me? on 20:32 - Jun 21 with 1558 views | itfc_bucks |
| Why me? on 08:19 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Not sure if it's the actual case, but I have the feeling that polls tend to under-represent how the tories actually do in elections.
I hope not though, I'd be delighted if this lot of incompetent, dishonest, corrupt clowns ended up in third place, with Lib Dems in opposition. |
My concern for this election is that the Reform vote might be under represented.
All those shy Tories might be shy Reform now.
Kin hope not, obviously... | | | |
| Why me? on 21:13 - Jun 21 with 1497 views | DJR |
| Why me? on 09:40 - Jun 21 by StokieBlue |
I think that polling agency has a very dubious methodology.
SB |
I have doubts about the Sky You Gov MRP poll the day before too, which gave the Tories only 108 seats.
I must admit I have misgivings about MRP polls more generally, at least so far as they operate at a constituency level, and it seems to me that they are given far more credibility than they deserve at that level.
And when it comes to the Telegraph poll, one does wonder if there is some sort of motive for the Telegraph running with it, such as shoring up the Tory vote or strengthening Reform. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:18]
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| Why me? on 22:39 - Jun 21 with 1414 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
I think I've reached the point that I (sort of) hope that Sunk picks his game up a bit. Just now he is leading the tories into oblivion. If he continues to haemorrhage support as he has done then one of these could happen...
Either... Disillusioned tories defect in sufficient numbers that, together with large numbers of red wall anti-immigrant brexit supporting thickoes who already worship Farage (and hate Rodney), they reach critical mass and overhaul Labour.
Or... (less likely) Tories jettison Sunk before the election and unite behind Farage, their new leader. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 22:41]
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| Why me? on 00:45 - Jun 22 with 1335 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Why me? on 22:39 - Jun 21 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I think I've reached the point that I (sort of) hope that Sunk picks his game up a bit. Just now he is leading the tories into oblivion. If he continues to haemorrhage support as he has done then one of these could happen...
Either... Disillusioned tories defect in sufficient numbers that, together with large numbers of red wall anti-immigrant brexit supporting thickoes who already worship Farage (and hate Rodney), they reach critical mass and overhaul Labour.
Or... (less likely) Tories jettison Sunk before the election and unite behind Farage, their new leader. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 22:41]
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Your last paragraph isn't just "less likely"- it is simply not possible given that:
a) Farage isn't a member of the Tory Party
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b) there isn't time for the Tories to elect a new leader before the General Election
If Sunak had quit a week or so ago then the most likely outcome would have been for Cameron to have taken over as interim leader, with the stated promise that if the Tories didn't win then he would stand down in the Autumn and allow the Party members to choose a new leader for the rebuild. And we're he to pull off the impossible and lead the Tories to victory then he would have the endorsement of the wider electorate to remain as leader. | | | |
| Why me? on 01:04 - Jun 22 with 1311 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Why me? on 00:45 - Jun 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Your last paragraph isn't just "less likely"- it is simply not possible given that:
a) Farage isn't a member of the Tory Party
And
b) there isn't time for the Tories to elect a new leader before the General Election
If Sunak had quit a week or so ago then the most likely outcome would have been for Cameron to have taken over as interim leader, with the stated promise that if the Tories didn't win then he would stand down in the Autumn and allow the Party members to choose a new leader for the rebuild. And we're he to pull off the impossible and lead the Tories to victory then he would have the endorsement of the wider electorate to remain as leader. |
Your point 'a' could be resolved in an instant.
And 'b': They're heading towards annihilation. If enough of them had the will to do it they could change the rules within hours in an attempt to avert the wipe-out. If the Tories and Reform could contrive an 'understanding', even at this stage, they could make a merger happen and they would be formidable. | |
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