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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 06:49 - Jul 28 by Roggydem
Should of just shot them both and been done with it.
The police should start recruiting villains from prison. It would ensure that officers were sufficiently violent, plus it would free up much needed space in Britain's jails.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 20:18 - Jul 27 by textbackup
The officer takes out a seriously violent scumbag, and we are talking seconds after he’s punched every officer there, he feels the boot is needed. Get him back to work, with a pay rise.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 02:51 - Jul 28 by Ryorry
As a female, I'd be outraged if a fellow-officer reacted to someone punching me on the nose by kicking & stamping on their head.
Quite apart from the illegality, unnecessary extreme violence, sexism, & danger to the downed man's life, it could have put my life in even more danger by provoking furthe angry reactions from bystanders, potentially even a riot.
Until the investigation, we don’t know whether booting that bloke was because they were female or because three colleagues had been attacked. It would certainly have made no difference to me whether they were male, female, colleagues or anything else. The danger to the downed man’s life? He brought that on himself.
I’ll paint a picture: say you were attacked in your house and you managed to rake your fingers down his forehead into his eyes and dug them right in, blinding him permanently. I guarantee he'd lose interest in you and whatever he wanted, giving you time to get away. Would you deem that ‘reasonable use of force’? Given your choice limitations, I’d say yes.
Words like extreme, reasonable and unnecessary surely depend on a lot of things from the actions of the attacker to situation and circumstance. In this instance the two bits of footage present slightly different pictures. I hope the investigation is able to objectively do its job and the full truth come out as to why he booted the aggressor - but I doubt that’ll happen.
Edit: in ten pages on this hardly anyone is interested in the well-being of the three police officers hit. Interesting. Is it because to quote a poster they are ‘Babylon’s’, so less than worthless, evil, or do people think a punch full in face is ok and not dangerous?
[Post edited 28 Jul 2024 9:21]
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 08:41 - Jul 28 with 1655 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 02:51 - Jul 28 by Ryorry
As a female, I'd be outraged if a fellow-officer reacted to someone punching me on the nose by kicking & stamping on their head.
Quite apart from the illegality, unnecessary extreme violence, sexism, & danger to the downed man's life, it could have put my life in even more danger by provoking furthe angry reactions from bystanders, potentially even a riot.
So as a female you would be upset if you were being attacked in the street and a man came up and had a go at defending you by knocking the bloke down and giving him a kick? Would you also then call him out for sexism? Ther was probably no reaction from bystanders as they saw what went on before.
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:33 - Jul 28 with 1571 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:30 - Jul 28 by bluejacko
So as a female you would be upset if you were being attacked in the street and a man came up and had a go at defending you by knocking the bloke down and giving him a kick? Would you also then call him out for sexism? Ther was probably no reaction from bystanders as they saw what went on before.
MASSIVE difference between a bloke in the street and an institution like the police
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:47 - Jul 28 with 1544 views
Any chance this thread can be moved to general where it belongs?
I find sticking to reading just the football section tones down the overall toxicity of the forum. Not by much, but a bit. Which is very helpful from a mental health perspective.
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:57 - Jul 28 with 1521 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 22:08 - Jul 27 by chicoazul
Aren’t you one of the people who moans about the police at away games and home games like Norwich? Guess that’s different. He deserves it but you don’t.
You got 4 upvotes for a lie 😂😂😂
I couldn’t give a toss what the police are like at away games, especially Norwich. They police are as game as the fans, it is what it is.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:47 - Jul 28 by Jrm_72
Any chance this thread can be moved to general where it belongs?
I find sticking to reading just the football section tones down the overall toxicity of the forum. Not by much, but a bit. Which is very helpful from a mental health perspective.
Done.
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 10:49 - Jul 28 with 1411 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 08:31 - Jul 28 by Churchman
Until the investigation, we don’t know whether booting that bloke was because they were female or because three colleagues had been attacked. It would certainly have made no difference to me whether they were male, female, colleagues or anything else. The danger to the downed man’s life? He brought that on himself.
I’ll paint a picture: say you were attacked in your house and you managed to rake your fingers down his forehead into his eyes and dug them right in, blinding him permanently. I guarantee he'd lose interest in you and whatever he wanted, giving you time to get away. Would you deem that ‘reasonable use of force’? Given your choice limitations, I’d say yes.
Words like extreme, reasonable and unnecessary surely depend on a lot of things from the actions of the attacker to situation and circumstance. In this instance the two bits of footage present slightly different pictures. I hope the investigation is able to objectively do its job and the full truth come out as to why he booted the aggressor - but I doubt that’ll happen.
Edit: in ten pages on this hardly anyone is interested in the well-being of the three police officers hit. Interesting. Is it because to quote a poster they are ‘Babylon’s’, so less than worthless, evil, or do people think a punch full in face is ok and not dangerous?
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I was merely responding to the post which said
"They are human beings.
The officer saw this guy attack 2 female officers brutally".
So the rest of your post isn't called for.
I will add tho that as I said y'day to Texters in the oiginal theead -
"If someone breaks into your home, you are expected to use no more than “reasonable force” in defending yourself/family - anything more than that is deemed illegal and you’d be prosecuted for it - as has actually happened irl."
No doubt same applies to public spaces.
As for your insulting suggestion that no-one seems interested in the well-being of the injured cops - can only speak for myself, but it's because it's been reported on most news-channels this a.m. & we know they're all OK.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:30 - Jul 28 by bluejacko
So as a female you would be upset if you were being attacked in the street and a man came up and had a go at defending you by knocking the bloke down and giving him a kick? Would you also then call him out for sexism? Ther was probably no reaction from bystanders as they saw what went on before.
I would feel bloody annoyed for all the reasons I mentioned above, albeit not outraged, as they're not trained professionals who are supposed to follow the rules.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 21:08 - Jul 27 by chicoazul
He wasn’t dealt with in an appropriate manner.
As a retired police officer with 31 years of service I totally agree.
The kick and stamp is not justified whatever happened previously. The officer clearly lost it, probably as a result of the assault on his colleagues and his subsequent reaction is a criminal offence.
What’s more disturbing is that he was a firearms officer who supposedly is tested and vetted to ensure he has the appropriate restraint and characteristics to deal with life threatening and dangerous situations whist retaining his composure and acting within the law.
He must (and am sure will) answer in a court of law after which he will be dealt with under police disciplinary procedures.
The same goes for the offenders who assaulted the officers, they must face criminal charges.
All too often the courts cause frustration as they fail to give adequate sentences to those who abuse and assault those going their lawful job, not just police officers but NHS staff, Fire Fighters, Teachers , shop workers etc.
Officers who break the law need to be dealt with and often Chief Constables have their hands tied with outdated regulations which currently results in a very small but nevertheless disturbing amount of bad apples. That said in this particular case there can be no fear of the Constabulary being able to take appropriate action against the officer once the court case has been dealt with.
Police Officers who break the law are not welcome they severely damage the reputation of the police and overshadow all the good work, however they should never be seen as representative of the service as a whole.
The vast majority of police officers and police staff do a very difficult job and serve the public to the best of their ability . We must maintain confidence in them but at the same time any criminal, inappropriate and abusive behaviour can never be tolerated and must be dealt with swiftly and rigorously.
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 11:01 - Jul 28 with 1385 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 10:56 - Jul 28 by ClassicBlueTractor
As a retired police officer with 31 years of service I totally agree.
The kick and stamp is not justified whatever happened previously. The officer clearly lost it, probably as a result of the assault on his colleagues and his subsequent reaction is a criminal offence.
What’s more disturbing is that he was a firearms officer who supposedly is tested and vetted to ensure he has the appropriate restraint and characteristics to deal with life threatening and dangerous situations whist retaining his composure and acting within the law.
He must (and am sure will) answer in a court of law after which he will be dealt with under police disciplinary procedures.
The same goes for the offenders who assaulted the officers, they must face criminal charges.
All too often the courts cause frustration as they fail to give adequate sentences to those who abuse and assault those going their lawful job, not just police officers but NHS staff, Fire Fighters, Teachers , shop workers etc.
Officers who break the law need to be dealt with and often Chief Constables have their hands tied with outdated regulations which currently results in a very small but nevertheless disturbing amount of bad apples. That said in this particular case there can be no fear of the Constabulary being able to take appropriate action against the officer once the court case has been dealt with.
Police Officers who break the law are not welcome they severely damage the reputation of the police and overshadow all the good work, however they should never be seen as representative of the service as a whole.
The vast majority of police officers and police staff do a very difficult job and serve the public to the best of their ability . We must maintain confidence in them but at the same time any criminal, inappropriate and abusive behaviour can never be tolerated and must be dealt with swiftly and rigorously.
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 10:49 - Jul 28 by Ryorry
I was merely responding to the post which said
"They are human beings.
The officer saw this guy attack 2 female officers brutally".
So the rest of your post isn't called for.
I will add tho that as I said y'day to Texters in the oiginal theead -
"If someone breaks into your home, you are expected to use no more than “reasonable force” in defending yourself/family - anything more than that is deemed illegal and you’d be prosecuted for it - as has actually happened irl."
No doubt same applies to public spaces.
As for your insulting suggestion that no-one seems interested in the well-being of the injured cops - can only speak for myself, but it's because it's been reported on most news-channels this a.m. & we know they're all OK.
If you check the wording I said hardly anyone, not ‘no-one’. There is a big difference in my view. The rest of my post was meant to be more generic rather than aimed at you so should not have been posted ‘in reply’ (apols) - but question remains around defining what is reasonable etc.
Yes, people in defending themselves and their property are charged for ‘anything more’ than reasonable force and it’s a subjective law I personally disagree with. As far as I’m concerned, anyone breaking into my house and/or threatening me or people I care about are fair game. The last thing I’d be worried about is ‘reasonable force’ or the consequences. Just my feelings.
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 12:40 - Jul 28 with 1241 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 10:56 - Jul 28 by ClassicBlueTractor
As a retired police officer with 31 years of service I totally agree.
The kick and stamp is not justified whatever happened previously. The officer clearly lost it, probably as a result of the assault on his colleagues and his subsequent reaction is a criminal offence.
What’s more disturbing is that he was a firearms officer who supposedly is tested and vetted to ensure he has the appropriate restraint and characteristics to deal with life threatening and dangerous situations whist retaining his composure and acting within the law.
He must (and am sure will) answer in a court of law after which he will be dealt with under police disciplinary procedures.
The same goes for the offenders who assaulted the officers, they must face criminal charges.
All too often the courts cause frustration as they fail to give adequate sentences to those who abuse and assault those going their lawful job, not just police officers but NHS staff, Fire Fighters, Teachers , shop workers etc.
Officers who break the law need to be dealt with and often Chief Constables have their hands tied with outdated regulations which currently results in a very small but nevertheless disturbing amount of bad apples. That said in this particular case there can be no fear of the Constabulary being able to take appropriate action against the officer once the court case has been dealt with.
Police Officers who break the law are not welcome they severely damage the reputation of the police and overshadow all the good work, however they should never be seen as representative of the service as a whole.
The vast majority of police officers and police staff do a very difficult job and serve the public to the best of their ability . We must maintain confidence in them but at the same time any criminal, inappropriate and abusive behaviour can never be tolerated and must be dealt with swiftly and rigorously.
Thank you for this excellent post 👍🏻
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 15:09 - Jul 28 with 1110 views
Manchester Airport incident latest video on 10:56 - Jul 28 by ClassicBlueTractor
As a retired police officer with 31 years of service I totally agree.
The kick and stamp is not justified whatever happened previously. The officer clearly lost it, probably as a result of the assault on his colleagues and his subsequent reaction is a criminal offence.
What’s more disturbing is that he was a firearms officer who supposedly is tested and vetted to ensure he has the appropriate restraint and characteristics to deal with life threatening and dangerous situations whist retaining his composure and acting within the law.
He must (and am sure will) answer in a court of law after which he will be dealt with under police disciplinary procedures.
The same goes for the offenders who assaulted the officers, they must face criminal charges.
All too often the courts cause frustration as they fail to give adequate sentences to those who abuse and assault those going their lawful job, not just police officers but NHS staff, Fire Fighters, Teachers , shop workers etc.
Officers who break the law need to be dealt with and often Chief Constables have their hands tied with outdated regulations which currently results in a very small but nevertheless disturbing amount of bad apples. That said in this particular case there can be no fear of the Constabulary being able to take appropriate action against the officer once the court case has been dealt with.
Police Officers who break the law are not welcome they severely damage the reputation of the police and overshadow all the good work, however they should never be seen as representative of the service as a whole.
The vast majority of police officers and police staff do a very difficult job and serve the public to the best of their ability . We must maintain confidence in them but at the same time any criminal, inappropriate and abusive behaviour can never be tolerated and must be dealt with swiftly and rigorously.
This, with absolute bloody bells on! Great post!
Thanks also for your years of dedication in what is a very difficult job, but a job where keeping the public safe is at the forefront of it! Bravo 👏
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Manchester Airport incident latest video on 09:55 - Jul 29 with 900 views
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