Szmodics - Alan Nixon 09:10 - Aug 11 with 17892 views | SitfcB | Ipswich are haggling over a deal for Blackburn Rovers striker Sammie Szmodics - and are bizarrely just £500,000 apart. The clubs have been debating the guaranteed sum starting point and Ipswich are at £8.5 million but won't budge to the £9 million demanded. The package for Szmodics includes extras for goals bonuses, a survival bonus and even a promotion bonus if Ipswich go down and then come back up in 2025-26. However the negotiators cannot sort out the first sum to the frustration of all parties and the player. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:22 - Aug 11 with 2680 views | MK1 | Give them £11M for him now and no additions or clauses. I know it ain't that simple, but i really want him here. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:24 - Aug 11 with 2665 views | Guthrum |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:08 - Aug 11 by ITFCBlues | It'll 100% be a Blackburn source. He's well connected there and Phil has pretty much confirmed the same story recently as well |
There's also an element of Blackburn fighting to retain one of their better players - and convincing their own fans of the effort. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:42 - Aug 11 with 2538 views | Simonds92 |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:01 - Aug 11 by Nutkins_Return | If you were taking this deal in complete isolation and we didn't have to make any future signings you might have a point. But Ashton has to conduct business in every single window and the minute you show weakness and the propensity to keep upping an offer (particularly after and agreed amount) you will quickly find every club taking you for mugs in the window. We need to bring 2-3 more in but we aren't desperate to overpay for players. This is just fans impatience not the clubs. Yes we would like to have got those players in earlier. But we'll do it right. [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 10:03]
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This is ridiculous, there's no way that every team is suddenly going to know we paid an extra 500k for Szmodics. If they do, what impact does that really have? There are no principles in a football transfer market are there ? You try and buy for as little as possible and you try and sell for as high as possible. We could agree a deal in principle with Blackburn for 9m next week and if Leeds bid 10m they're within their rights to pull out and sell him to Leeds. Ultimately, we want the player, holding back 500k as a matter of principle could be far more costly in the long term. Especially when we don't currently have any options for the LAM role which he could comfortably play. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:48 - Aug 11 with 2472 views | itfckenty | I think like anything, things that drag and drag for too long may open other potential bids. Personally, if they believe he is the right man for the job, we should get it resolved.. for all we know a Brentford or Forest could be ready to snipe. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:03 - Aug 11 with 2335 views | ReusersTown |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:29 - Aug 11 by portmanking | Then you caveat it. Say, okay we're prepared to bend to 9m on this occasion but if you move the goalposts again the entire move is off. You'd soon find things get finalised. Town hierarchy have been burnt by Blackburn too much before so are trying to give them a taste of their medicine, to our detriment IMO. |
Blackburn are clearly a nightmare to deal with, and seems fairly sleazy in terms of their negotiation tactics. Anyone taking their side based on the information we have is a bit weird imo. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:05 - Aug 11 with 2313 views | ITFCBlues |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:48 - Aug 11 by itfckenty | I think like anything, things that drag and drag for too long may open other potential bids. Personally, if they believe he is the right man for the job, we should get it resolved.. for all we know a Brentford or Forest could be ready to snipe. |
Or they just decide to keep him, like they did with Brererton Diaz. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:05 - Aug 11 with 2322 views | ReusersTown |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:43 - Aug 11 by tractorboy1978 | I think we've already done that though. Initially it was £8m + £2m and we went to £8.5m after the goal posts moved. And now they've been moved again by the looks of it. They are just a terrible club to deal with, this is exactly what happened with Gallagher last January as well. |
The sooner they get relegated and the Venky's finally sell up the better tbh. For them and the rest of football. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:05 - Aug 11 with 2314 views | BiGDonnie |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:24 - Aug 11 by portmanking | If we really are quibbling over £500k, this really is foolhardy. Sounds like Ashton trying to be narcissistic and taking the upper hand. £9m for a player in the form of his life. Just get it done this week FFS. |
In our scenario I agree. We need him ready for next weekend. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:07 - Aug 11 with 2279 views | ReusersTown |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:45 - Aug 11 by portmanking | So, as I said, we're just trying to save face while denying Szmodics a chance to train with the squad and get up to speed. Also, if Szmodics keeps scoring between now and the end of the month, who's to say Blackburn won't (justifiably) ask for much more than £9m? |
You really think that would justifiably put his price up? For what reason? We know he can score goals in the Champ. Are you sure you're not a distantly related Venky? |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:08 - Aug 11 with 2283 views | ITFCBlues | |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:12 - Aug 11 with 2220 views | ArnieM | I wonder if Town are waiting the outcome of BB’s court appearance Aug 20th for financial issues? If they lose that they could be forced into a player fire sale…. It might also explain why, as yet, no other club has put in a bid for SS as the vultures circle? |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:12 - Aug 11 with 2208 views | tractorboy1978 |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:08 - Aug 11 by ITFCBlues | |
It wouldn't surprise me. I do think he's going to have to get more aggressive than he has been if he wants to get his move. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:14 - Aug 11 with 2186 views | Kieran_Knows |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:12 - Aug 11 by tractorboy1978 | It wouldn't surprise me. I do think he's going to have to get more aggressive than he has been if he wants to get his move. |
Going to have to be a transfer request because I’m not sure what else he can do. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:16 - Aug 11 with 2145 views | tractorboy1978 |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:14 - Aug 11 by Kieran_Knows | Going to have to be a transfer request because I’m not sure what else he can do. |
Or deeming himself not fit to play because of an 'injury'. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:16 - Aug 11 with 2135 views | Kieran_Knows |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:16 - Aug 11 by tractorboy1978 | Or deeming himself not fit to play because of an 'injury'. |
There is that, but he doesn’t strike me as that type of person. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:17 - Aug 11 with 2144 views | GavTWTD |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:12 - Aug 11 by tractorboy1978 | It wouldn't surprise me. I do think he's going to have to get more aggressive than he has been if he wants to get his move. |
His body language after he scored, his applauding of the fans after the match and the time spent with Travis at 90' it all looks like he wants to come. No way Blackburn are good enough to be promoted. If it's only 500k then I'm surprised we've not done it. Maybe we've matched demands and they've been increased, but we should offer the 500k and if not accepted, walk away. Maybe we have walked away and it's not public. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:19 - Aug 11 with 2075 views | tractorboy1978 |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:17 - Aug 11 by GavTWTD | His body language after he scored, his applauding of the fans after the match and the time spent with Travis at 90' it all looks like he wants to come. No way Blackburn are good enough to be promoted. If it's only 500k then I'm surprised we've not done it. Maybe we've matched demands and they've been increased, but we should offer the 500k and if not accepted, walk away. Maybe we have walked away and it's not public. |
He's desperate to come here and as has been mentioned before on here, not only for footballing reasons. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:21 - Aug 11 with 2057 views | gainsboroughblue | This saga reminds me of this bit in Peep Show. |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:29 - Aug 11 with 1938 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:21 - Aug 11 by gainsboroughblue | This saga reminds me of this bit in Peep Show. |
Will Mark Ashton also need to ask Blackburn if we can sign Szmodics in a lady's voice? |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:48 - Aug 11 with 1784 views | bournemouthblue |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:14 - Aug 11 by SheffordBlue | With the amount we'll have saved in wages for the month this has been going on and the amount Rovers will have paid in wages that £500k will be disappearing at a rapid rate of knots! |
It might also be because we have other deals we need to get done and have a good idea what those will cost It won't be as trivial as they like to suggest |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 11:50 - Aug 11 with 1744 views | bournemouthblue |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:24 - Aug 11 by Guthrum | There's also an element of Blackburn fighting to retain one of their better players - and convincing their own fans of the effort. |
There is definitely an element of smokescreen there, claiming £20 million in the media when really they want £11 million in truth They aren't in a great financial position and aren't able to call the shots |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:12 - Aug 11 with 1603 views | itfcsuth | If we are negotiating over £500k then at this stage it’s ridiculous - it should have been done last week, let alone drag in to the week of the season. I understand principles, but my first concern is about this group, and for £500k we shouldn’t be hindering that. Get the deal done, never go to business with Blackburn again. |  | |  |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:15 - Aug 11 with 1564 views | Kieran_Knows |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:12 - Aug 11 by itfcsuth | If we are negotiating over £500k then at this stage it’s ridiculous - it should have been done last week, let alone drag in to the week of the season. I understand principles, but my first concern is about this group, and for £500k we shouldn’t be hindering that. Get the deal done, never go to business with Blackburn again. |
What if we bid £9m, then they ask another £500k? |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:18 - Aug 11 with 1533 views | ITFCBlues |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:15 - Aug 11 by Kieran_Knows | What if we bid £9m, then they ask another £500k? |
Conversely, what if we wait 3 weeks thinking they'll wilt and then decide to keep him? |  |
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Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:21 - Aug 11 with 1507 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 12:15 - Aug 11 by Kieran_Knows | What if we bid £9m, then they ask another £500k? |
I'm astounded by the number of posters who seemingly are happy for us to pay over the odds for various players or are happy for us to be held to ransom by other teams. |  |
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