| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi 23:15 - Aug 30 with 6867 views | Chris_ITFC |
Should’ve got better, need better, alas. |  |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:47 - Aug 30 with 1477 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:43 - Aug 30 by lordsambuca |
Maybe there was a slight misjudgement on the ability to get deals given the deals done throughout the rest of the window. But that feels a high risk trio to run with until Jan. As already said Hirst is injury prone and Al Hamadi is recovering from a major op and watching him Wednesday did not inspire confidence that he can reach the level required - a season in the championship would have been ideal. Clearly Szmodics could be an option but he doesn't have the same qualities as Delap or Hirst so it would be a tactical adjustment. There is no obvious U21 able to step up, Buabo seems to be injured again and is very raw.
From the outside it is hard to understand the focus on Broja. |
That’s mainly my point.
3 months ago, tell them that, and they’d think something must’ve gone majorly wrong to not get ANY upgrade with a £30m budget burning a hole for a loan obligation. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:47 - Aug 30 with 1469 views | Len_Brennan |
We weren't looking to bring Broja in here to be pur 3rd striker, after Delap & Hirst, he was to be our #1 forward, ahead of those 2 in the pecking order; our 65 minutes every league game centre forward.
I cannot fathom how so many fans on both the forum & the message board can't get the distinction in, & significance of, the #9 role here, versus any of the other attacking positions. |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:48 - Aug 30 with 1463 views | NeedhamChris |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:45 - Aug 30 by Churchman |
Did they? Why wasn’t McKenna training the team or at least scribbling the team sheet together? They’ve got a game tomorrow. Dereliction of duty in my view. Ashton - were you with him or did you just nip out and buy his skinny latte and lunchtime cheese baguette because he was dialling up all these clubs?
I take it you will be tackling Ashton and McKenna for their appalling failure to do any decent business in this transfer window. We need to know why we only signed about a dozen players for a paltry £100m plus. |
There are a lot of people on here who are incapable of understanding the difference between a disappointing day and a disappointing window. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:49 - Aug 30 with 1455 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:40 - Aug 30 by pointofblue |
He's an amazing manager. If Delap goes down for a long period and we stay up I'd change that to... what's the next step up from miracle worker which isn't blasphemous? |
Overlooking the daft tone, I understand what you're saying.
However, McKenna has shown how he can adapt to set-backs and injury crisis. I'm sure he'll find a way. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:49 - Aug 30 with 1448 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:45 - Aug 30 by Churchman |
Did they? Why wasn’t McKenna training the team or at least scribbling the team sheet together? They’ve got a game tomorrow. Dereliction of duty in my view. Ashton - were you with him or did you just nip out and buy his skinny latte and lunchtime cheese baguette because he was dialling up all these clubs?
I take it you will be tackling Ashton and McKenna for their appalling failure to do any decent business in this transfer window. We need to know why we only signed about a dozen players for a paltry £100m plus. |
Honestly Church, I'd love the opportunity to ask Ashton how do you spend over £110 million in a transfer window, yet leave your manager with 1 currently fit striker, 1 returning and 1 who's played more league 2 football than any other level when the manager likes to use two strikers per game. |  |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:51 - Aug 30 with 1442 views | Trequartista |
For me, we almost need strikers that can hold the ball up and pose a physical threat more than goalscorers because we have so many attacking midfielders/ forwards that can score goals, so I think Delap and Hirst are better options than they may seem. [Post edited 30 Aug 2024 23:53]
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:53 - Aug 30 with 1424 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:49 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue |
Honestly Church, I'd love the opportunity to ask Ashton how do you spend over £110 million in a transfer window, yet leave your manager with 1 currently fit striker, 1 returning and 1 who's played more league 2 football than any other level when the manager likes to use two strikers per game. |
Hypothetically, he’d chuck plenty of them back to swap 1 for a big fish up top.
Sadly football isn’t that easy, strikers are expensive and sought after, but with good reason. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:55 - Aug 30 with 1410 views | pointofblue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:49 - Aug 30 by TheBoyBlue |
Overlooking the daft tone, I understand what you're saying.
However, McKenna has shown how he can adapt to set-backs and injury crisis. I'm sure he'll find a way. |
Actually, I don't mean to be too pessimistic, but has he? When Hirst went down against Leicester last year we didn't really adapt, struggled (relatively speaking) through January and only found our groove again when we brought in Moore. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:56 - Aug 30 with 1400 views | Horsham |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:51 - Aug 30 by Trequartista |
For me, we almost need strikers that can hold the ball up and pose a physical threat more than goalscorers because we have so many attacking midfielders/ forwards that can score goals, so I think Delap and Hirst are better options than they may seem. [Post edited 30 Aug 2024 23:53]
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I think Delap and Hirst are perfect for our system. The issue arises when one is missing as we ideally need both of them to share the 90 plus minutes. The trouble is quite a lot of the time one is likely to missing through injury. Pretty obvious KMac wanted another…but honestly they are perfect, just get Hirst fit and then keep them both fit. |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 00:02 - Aug 31 with 1353 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:55 - Aug 30 by pointofblue |
Actually, I don't mean to be too pessimistic, but has he? When Hirst went down against Leicester last year we didn't really adapt, struggled (relatively speaking) through January and only found our groove again when we brought in Moore. |
Yes he has. We've remained hard to beat and kept in where we need to be. That's all we need this season. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 00:05 - Aug 31 with 1316 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Szmodics will be our number 9 this season. |  |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 00:08 - Aug 31 with 1297 views | Len_Brennan |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 00:05 - Aug 31 by Wallingford_Boy |
Szmodics will be our number 9 this season. |
No he won't. | | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 00:11 - Aug 31 with 1259 views | Churchman |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:48 - Aug 30 by NeedhamChris |
There are a lot of people on here who are incapable of understanding the difference between a disappointing day and a disappointing window. |
There are a lot of people on here who draw conclusions from assumptions. |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:24 - Aug 31 with 1186 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:49 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue |
Honestly Church, I'd love the opportunity to ask Ashton how do you spend over £110 million in a transfer window, yet leave your manager with 1 currently fit striker, 1 returning and 1 who's played more league 2 football than any other level when the manager likes to use two strikers per game. |
This is not football manager.
The striker market is a very hard one to operate in. We had a target we liked who we believed was coming here fit and he wasn't. We looked at other targets, the price was not right on them. We went back to our main target, renegotiated, and the deal still wasn't right.
Yes, we needed the striker, but not at the cost of completely abandoning any sense of reality and paying a fee we didn't want to pay for players that we deemed not worth it. The club did everything they could to get a striker, but it didn't happen. Im sure McKenna understands that. And if the suggestion is that we should just get any old striker in because they are a striker, that is just a non starter. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 1:27]
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:35 - Aug 31 with 1176 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:17 - Aug 30 by Blue_Heath |
Delap>Nelson, hopefully Hirst will back after international break. AH has a great goals per minute ratio, miles better than Nelson's. |
Not sure you can really compare a goals per minute ratio of a PL player and someone who has only ever scored four goals at championship level.
I love AAH and he’s got a fantastic character but he’s simply not a premier league quality striker. Put it this way, if he wasn’t at the club would we be trying to sign him today? |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:36 - Aug 31 with 1175 views | Mercian |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:24 - Aug 31 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
This is not football manager.
The striker market is a very hard one to operate in. We had a target we liked who we believed was coming here fit and he wasn't. We looked at other targets, the price was not right on them. We went back to our main target, renegotiated, and the deal still wasn't right.
Yes, we needed the striker, but not at the cost of completely abandoning any sense of reality and paying a fee we didn't want to pay for players that we deemed not worth it. The club did everything they could to get a striker, but it didn't happen. Im sure McKenna understands that. And if the suggestion is that we should just get any old striker in because they are a striker, that is just a non starter. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 1:27]
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I do believe Delap in particular will become a very good striker. I am not saying he is the next Kane but he is better than Harry was aged 21. But it will take time if he is to make it to Premier League yet alone England international standard. KM is a far better judge than myself or probably any of us but I do think he should have pushed for an experienced striker at this level. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 2:38]
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:49 - Aug 31 with 1165 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:36 - Aug 31 by Mercian |
I do believe Delap in particular will become a very good striker. I am not saying he is the next Kane but he is better than Harry was aged 21. But it will take time if he is to make it to Premier League yet alone England international standard. KM is a far better judge than myself or probably any of us but I do think he should have pushed for an experienced striker at this level. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 2:38]
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But it's very clearly that McKenna is extremely specific on who he wants. I don't see an experienced striker at this level who can do that role really. Who is attainable for us. Eduoard maybe, but I don't think he has shown loads as Palace to want to really pursue him. Id rather buy nobody than buy someone for the sake of buying someone. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 06:42 - Aug 31 with 1028 views | BlueOura |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:35 - Aug 30 by TheBoyBlue |
Not just down to the strikers.
Szmodics already on the scoresheet. Chaplin is capable of getting some. Burns when he's back. Jack Clarke is one to watch. We have potential scorers throughout the team.
We need to stay in the mix until January and like the last two seasons players realise we're not the dead loss they thought us in the summer. |
Of course we have goals in the team but that isn't really the issue, the no. 9 in our system has a specific role which is as much about creating room for the others as it is scoring. We are now very short of the cover we need in this area, it's a simple as that. |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 06:53 - Aug 31 with 1009 views | Stewart27 |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 23:42 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue |
Genuine question, how do you think KM is feeling at the moment in his own bubble. |
Why do you always pose this question? I’m not KM but hopefully he’s more like me than you so here goes.
KM will be preparing for Fulham with the squad he’s got. We’re one player short of a perfect window. We’ve spent £15-20 million on a number one striker.
He’ll be plotting how we manage with the personnel he has at his disposal. He’s objective and rational which is part of his success.
He won’t be calling the bloody Samaritans. | | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:02 - Aug 31 with 977 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 06:53 - Aug 31 by Stewart27 |
Why do you always pose this question? I’m not KM but hopefully he’s more like me than you so here goes.
KM will be preparing for Fulham with the squad he’s got. We’re one player short of a perfect window. We’ve spent £15-20 million on a number one striker.
He’ll be plotting how we manage with the personnel he has at his disposal. He’s objective and rational which is part of his success.
He won’t be calling the bloody Samaritans. |
Not sure there's a need for the last line but you've had a habit in the last 24 hours of saying things you probably shouldn't.
The reason I ask is that you're having a go at people venting their annoyance on the forum when no one is showing anything other than a disappointed view but you're acting like you don't know why.
Yes KM is what you've described. That's how he comes across. But he's also human. We saw this when he bashed the dugout away to Hull.
He won't say much publicly. He will keep alot of feelings to himself. But most of what people have shared on here imo are similar thoughts to what KM personally feels. Otherwise he wouldn't have been asking for a third striker | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:18 - Aug 31 with 936 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:02 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure there's a need for the last line but you've had a habit in the last 24 hours of saying things you probably shouldn't.
The reason I ask is that you're having a go at people venting their annoyance on the forum when no one is showing anything other than a disappointed view but you're acting like you don't know why.
Yes KM is what you've described. That's how he comes across. But he's also human. We saw this when he bashed the dugout away to Hull.
He won't say much publicly. He will keep alot of feelings to himself. But most of what people have shared on here imo are similar thoughts to what KM personally feels. Otherwise he wouldn't have been asking for a third striker |
As I said in another thread though, McKenna and Ashton are a team. Not getting another striker is on both of them. | | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:37 - Aug 31 with 914 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 01:24 - Aug 31 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
This is not football manager.
The striker market is a very hard one to operate in. We had a target we liked who we believed was coming here fit and he wasn't. We looked at other targets, the price was not right on them. We went back to our main target, renegotiated, and the deal still wasn't right.
Yes, we needed the striker, but not at the cost of completely abandoning any sense of reality and paying a fee we didn't want to pay for players that we deemed not worth it. The club did everything they could to get a striker, but it didn't happen. Im sure McKenna understands that. And if the suggestion is that we should just get any old striker in because they are a striker, that is just a non starter. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 1:27]
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I'm not sure why the default response to this Is football manager. It's not football manager correct. It is however a premiership football club who've left with 1 fit striker. 1 returning and one from league 2 who's also recovering. It doesn't have to become football manager to get a third striker who is better than Al hamadi. Again this Is not a slight on Al hamadi just where he sits right now.
If a recruitment can't get a player worldwide who's better than Al hamadi then it's had a poor result there's no getting away from that. It doesn't mean it's football manager. | |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:37 - Aug 31 with 917 views | victorywilhappen |
Do you think Ipswich failed in their duty to you?
Or Ipswich didn't try hard enough or are not up to the task of signing a player may be too picky and difficult on price, fit, contract etc.
Please sir can we have some more? |  | | |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:48 - Aug 31 with 902 views | MK1 |
| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:02 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure there's a need for the last line but you've had a habit in the last 24 hours of saying things you probably shouldn't.
The reason I ask is that you're having a go at people venting their annoyance on the forum when no one is showing anything other than a disappointed view but you're acting like you don't know why.
Yes KM is what you've described. That's how he comes across. But he's also human. We saw this when he bashed the dugout away to Hull.
He won't say much publicly. He will keep alot of feelings to himself. But most of what people have shared on here imo are similar thoughts to what KM personally feels. Otherwise he wouldn't have been asking for a third striker |
"but you've had a habit in the last 24 hours of saying things you probably shouldn't"?
How many posts did you delete last night? 2 the last time I was on here. |  |
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| Delap, Hirst, Al Hamadi on 07:49 - Aug 31 with 898 views | cressi |
To be fair I never knew much about Delap his getting better every game was superb v man city could be a superb signing. Hirst if he could stay fit works we know that. Ali now has to Jan to prove himself or he will go out on loan. | | | |
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