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How on Earth 22:08 - Sep 14 with 5928 viewsJimmyJazz

Is Last Night of the Proms still allowed in 2024, let alone getting airtime from the BBC?

It's like if Germany had re-enactments of Hitler rallies which in turn get national German television coverage

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How on Earth on 22:10 - Sep 14 with 4414 viewsredrickstuhaart

Really???
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How on Earth on 22:14 - Sep 14 with 4376 viewsJimmyJazz

How on Earth on 22:10 - Sep 14 by redrickstuhaart

Really???


Yeah, maybe I switched on at the wrong time to see when Match of the Day was on, and was greeted by Rule Brittania and Land of Hope and Glory

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How on Earth on 22:33 - Sep 14 with 4260 viewsChurchman

I’m struggling to see the problem. The Promenade Concerts last a couple of months and showcase music old and new from all round the world. The Last Night is just the winding down event and has been going for donkeys years. Henry Wood n all that.

Yes, it features Rule Britannia, that dates back to the 18c, sea songs, Parry, Elgar and other stuff. Lots of people all around the world enjoy it, so what’s the problem? It does no harm.

Not really my thing, so not bothered about seeing it (abroad at the moment anyway), but I’d never equate it to Hitler rallies in any way shape or form.
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How on Earth on 22:38 - Sep 14 with 4218 viewsredrickstuhaart

How on Earth on 22:33 - Sep 14 by Churchman

I’m struggling to see the problem. The Promenade Concerts last a couple of months and showcase music old and new from all round the world. The Last Night is just the winding down event and has been going for donkeys years. Henry Wood n all that.

Yes, it features Rule Britannia, that dates back to the 18c, sea songs, Parry, Elgar and other stuff. Lots of people all around the world enjoy it, so what’s the problem? It does no harm.

Not really my thing, so not bothered about seeing it (abroad at the moment anyway), but I’d never equate it to Hitler rallies in any way shape or form.


The two songs in question have some uncomfortable colonial vibes, and its right to be aware of that. But that audience singing along is probably 90% bleeding heart liberal wokies. No malice there.
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How on Earth on 22:49 - Sep 14 with 4118 viewsCoastalblue

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How on Earth on 22:49 - Sep 14 with 4117 viewslowhouseblue

How on Earth on 22:38 - Sep 14 by redrickstuhaart

The two songs in question have some uncomfortable colonial vibes, and its right to be aware of that. But that audience singing along is probably 90% bleeding heart liberal wokies. No malice there.


those songs are probably more patriotic rather than having colonial vibes. it's cocky ruling the waves stuff rather than oppressing the colonies.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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How on Earth on 22:53 - Sep 14 with 4072 viewsRyorry

Have seen some utterly ignorant, bizarre, ridiculous posts on here over the decades (probably written a few too), but yours here takes the biscuit

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This is one of the worst posts.... on 23:00 - Sep 14 with 4006 viewsBloots

....I've ever seen on here.

And it's up against some pretty stiff competition.
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How on Earth on 23:01 - Sep 14 with 3984 viewsChurchman

How on Earth on 22:38 - Sep 14 by redrickstuhaart

The two songs in question have some uncomfortable colonial vibes, and its right to be aware of that. But that audience singing along is probably 90% bleeding heart liberal wokies. No malice there.


With regard to Rule Britannia, it depends on your interpretation of something written getting on for 300 years ago for King George 1st.

When all is said and done, they’re just songs, most of them dating back a heck of a time to be ignored or enjoyed.

As for the composition of the Proms’ audiences, I wouldn’t know not having attended one.
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How on Earth on 23:11 - Sep 14 with 3861 viewsRyorry

How on Earth on 22:49 - Sep 14 by lowhouseblue

those songs are probably more patriotic rather than having colonial vibes. it's cocky ruling the waves stuff rather than oppressing the colonies.


Indeed - re the second, it's in the title - Elgar's 'Pomp & Circumstance March no.1' - used at the coronation of Edward VII.

Also in the second half of the programme tonight, a new composition by Iain Farrington based on sporting themes including MotD -
Extra Time(4 mins)'

Henry Mancini
The Pink Panther(3 mins)

In His Hands: Two Spirituals(4 mins)

Songs by Spanish & Italian composers.

And as well as England & Union Jack flags waved by the audience there were too many EU flags to count, plus others from around the world.
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How on Earth on 23:11 - Sep 14 with 3851 viewsBlueForYou

Rule Britannia sung with verve & gusto brings a tear to the eye!
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How on Earth on 23:17 - Sep 14 with 3810 viewsSitfcB

RUUUUULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAAAVES!

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How on Earth on 23:20 - Sep 14 with 3763 viewslowhouseblue

How on Earth on 23:11 - Sep 14 by Ryorry

Indeed - re the second, it's in the title - Elgar's 'Pomp & Circumstance March no.1' - used at the coronation of Edward VII.

Also in the second half of the programme tonight, a new composition by Iain Farrington based on sporting themes including MotD -
Extra Time(4 mins)'

Henry Mancini
The Pink Panther(3 mins)

In His Hands: Two Spirituals(4 mins)

Songs by Spanish & Italian composers.

And as well as England & Union Jack flags waved by the audience there were too many EU flags to count, plus others from around the world.
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even rule britannia has mixed messages. it originated in the mid 1700s, and from 1807 one of the things that britannia ruling the waves assisted in was the suppression of the slave trade. the blockade of africa was the royal navy.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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How on Earth on 23:23 - Sep 14 with 3716 viewsRyorry

How on Earth on 23:01 - Sep 14 by Churchman

With regard to Rule Britannia, it depends on your interpretation of something written getting on for 300 years ago for King George 1st.

When all is said and done, they’re just songs, most of them dating back a heck of a time to be ignored or enjoyed.

As for the composition of the Proms’ audiences, I wouldn’t know not having attended one.


Been to first (1982(?) night & last (camped out on the street overnight to get tickets up in the gods, 1968 iirc) + a few inbetween.

Audiences are young, middle-aged, old, multinational, multicultural, from all backgrounds, jobs & none. The only thing they have in common is that they all love music.
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How on Earth on 01:25 - Sep 15 with 3453 viewsJimmyJazz

How on Earth on 23:11 - Sep 14 by Ryorry

Indeed - re the second, it's in the title - Elgar's 'Pomp & Circumstance March no.1' - used at the coronation of Edward VII.

Also in the second half of the programme tonight, a new composition by Iain Farrington based on sporting themes including MotD -
Extra Time(4 mins)'

Henry Mancini
The Pink Panther(3 mins)

In His Hands: Two Spirituals(4 mins)

Songs by Spanish & Italian composers.

And as well as England & Union Jack flags waved by the audience there were too many EU flags to count, plus others from around the world.
[Post edited 14 Sep 2024 23:16]


I take your point on other compositions and songs, I have to say I always associate Last Night.... with those 2 songs as they save them until toward the end when I 'm looking for Match of the Day - because those seem to be the favourites that everyone is waiting for, and it's those i take umbrage with.

Any wokies, admitting to being comfortable with those 2 songs would probably get their woke membership cards torn up and face being banished.

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How on Earth on 02:03 - Sep 15 with 3381 viewsIllinoisblue

You can’t just lob a hand grenade in like that and not explain why. Besides, that bit where the crowd all bob up and down is iconic.

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How on Earth on 02:37 - Sep 15 with 3335 viewsEireannach_gorm

How on Earth on 22:14 - Sep 14 by JimmyJazz

Yeah, maybe I switched on at the wrong time to see when Match of the Day was on, and was greeted by Rule Brittania and Land of Hope and Glory

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How on Earth on 03:30 - Sep 15 with 3290 viewsBuhrer

They came for the flag shaggers, but I said nuffink, coz.
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How on Earth on 04:37 - Sep 15 with 3229 viewsMercian

I have no problem with it from an ethical point of view. I do think it highlights that British composers from the classical period were not a patch on some of their continental counterparts.
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How on Earth on 07:28 - Sep 15 with 2987 viewsChurchman

How on Earth on 04:37 - Sep 15 by Mercian

I have no problem with it from an ethical point of view. I do think it highlights that British composers from the classical period were not a patch on some of their continental counterparts.


I disagree with that. Each has their merits to like or dislike. I don’t know anything like enough to critically appraise classical music, but my personal faves are British composers Edward Elgar and Gustav Holst. A big influence on Holst was Richard Wagner, Hitler’s favourite composer, ironically.
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How on Earth on 07:36 - Sep 15 with 2951 viewsBenters

How on Earth on 22:33 - Sep 14 by Churchman

I’m struggling to see the problem. The Promenade Concerts last a couple of months and showcase music old and new from all round the world. The Last Night is just the winding down event and has been going for donkeys years. Henry Wood n all that.

Yes, it features Rule Britannia, that dates back to the 18c, sea songs, Parry, Elgar and other stuff. Lots of people all around the world enjoy it, so what’s the problem? It does no harm.

Not really my thing, so not bothered about seeing it (abroad at the moment anyway), but I’d never equate it to Hitler rallies in any way shape or form.


My parents used to love watching it,I haven’t watched it for years mind.

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How on Earth on 08:05 - Sep 15 with 2873 viewsbsw72

Oh dear, the level of ignorance has plumbed new depths. I’d love to hear the justification to your statement.
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How on Earth on 08:11 - Sep 15 with 2818 viewsBluespeed225

The old ‘everyone I don’t like is a Nazi’ card!
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How on Earth on 08:33 - Sep 15 with 2720 viewsJohnTy

How on Earth on 01:25 - Sep 15 by JimmyJazz

I take your point on other compositions and songs, I have to say I always associate Last Night.... with those 2 songs as they save them until toward the end when I 'm looking for Match of the Day - because those seem to be the favourites that everyone is waiting for, and it's those i take umbrage with.

Any wokies, admitting to being comfortable with those 2 songs would probably get their woke membership cards torn up and face being banished.


The author of "Land of Hope and Glory", A.C. Benson, was later very uncomfortable about what he had written - and he died almost a century ago. I remember one of his colleagues, then in his 80's, refusing to sing it in the 1960's. It is now dreadfully out of date and inappropriate.
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How on Earth on 08:40 - Sep 15 with 2700 viewstextbackup

Pro British, expect it to go at some point because of fairies like yourself

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