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Elephant in the room time 12:15 - Sep 18 with 9631 viewsIPSWICHFANITFC

But why was there such an overreaction with the celebrations on Saturday in the away end when the full time whistle went?

It was like we'd won 1-0. I saw arms flying around everywhere and gestures towards the home section to the right. I can't have been the only one who was thinking 'what is going on'.

FWIW, it was a great result, a point on the board that admittedly, I didn't think we would be getting before kick off but we drew the game, not won it.

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Elephant in the room time on 17:22 - Sep 18 with 1924 viewsCafe_Newman


our celebrations should have been a little more muted because we hit the woodwork and were denied a deserved 3 points.
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Elephant in the room time on 17:32 - Sep 18 with 1880 viewsLeaky

Elephant in the room time on 16:41 - Sep 18 by ElephantintheRoom

Spoilt toddlers who are still at pre-school

When they are a bit older they will find out that 3 is a bigger number than 1


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Elephant in the room time on 17:36 - Sep 18 with 1852 viewsCafe_Newman

Elephant in the room time on 16:41 - Sep 18 by ElephantintheRoom

Spoilt toddlers who are still at pre-school

When they are a bit older they will find out that 3 is a bigger number than 1



spoilt toddlers have worse numeracy skills than toddlers who are not spoilt.
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Elephant in the room time on 17:42 - Sep 18 with 1812 viewsMK1

A gentle applause and a perfectly formed queue for the exit? Got it.

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Elephant in the room time on 17:53 - Sep 18 with 1789 viewsMK1

Elephant in the room time on 17:36 - Sep 18 by Cafe_Newman


spoilt toddlers have worse numeracy skills than toddlers who are not spoilt.


Just put the muppet on ignore. You will not regret it.

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Elephant in the room time on 18:05 - Sep 18 with 1779 viewsvictorysquad

I think the reaction was perfect. The players had to give everything for 90 mins to grind out that point and we should rightfully let them know how much we appreciate their efforts.

Every point we pick up this season will be hard earned and will move us a step closer to being able to stay in this league next season. That would be a massive achievement and allow us to spend another £100m next summer which will bring us much closer to Brighton

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Elephant in the room time on 18:27 - Sep 18 with 1731 viewsMK1

Elephant in the room time on 18:05 - Sep 18 by victorysquad

I think the reaction was perfect. The players had to give everything for 90 mins to grind out that point and we should rightfully let them know how much we appreciate their efforts.

Every point we pick up this season will be hard earned and will move us a step closer to being able to stay in this league next season. That would be a massive achievement and allow us to spend another £100m next summer which will bring us much closer to Brighton


We really shouldn't be looking to spend anywhere near £100M next summer. The players we have already brought should be developing into PL players. They shouldn't need replacing. A forward and a midfielder should see us ok. We might even get the forward in during January. I would also expect a few squad upgrades next summer, but we shouldn't be spending £100M again anytime soon.

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Elephant in the room time on 18:29 - Sep 18 with 1703 viewsFrimleyBlue

Elephant in the room time on 18:27 - Sep 18 by MK1

We really shouldn't be looking to spend anywhere near £100M next summer. The players we have already brought should be developing into PL players. They shouldn't need replacing. A forward and a midfielder should see us ok. We might even get the forward in during January. I would also expect a few squad upgrades next summer, but we shouldn't be spending £100M again anytime soon.


lol

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Elephant in the room time on 19:35 - Sep 18 with 1651 viewsvictorysquad

Elephant in the room time on 18:27 - Sep 18 by MK1

We really shouldn't be looking to spend anywhere near £100M next summer. The players we have already brought should be developing into PL players. They shouldn't need replacing. A forward and a midfielder should see us ok. We might even get the forward in during January. I would also expect a few squad upgrades next summer, but we shouldn't be spending £100M again anytime soon.


£100m might only buy us 2 or 3 players

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Elephant in the room time on 20:02 - Sep 18 with 1625 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Elephant in the room time on 18:29 - Sep 18 by FrimleyBlue

lol


Why "LOL"? I think we've recruited insanely well, this window. If we stay up, and these young, promising players grow in experience and skill, we have a better team next term. If we go down, we have some very good players to sell for a profit.

There's nothing "LOL" about that.
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Elephant in the room time on 20:30 - Sep 18 with 1584 viewsFacefacts

Here is an elephant in the room question, or, how to kill a thread with a comment which is on topic with the thread subject but is not very interesting at all.

I queried the Huddersfield attendance last season, so I have previous on this. Don't want to revisit that but:

Why have the Attendances disappeared from the Fixtures page. Are they so big now that they won't fit in the column without reducing the font size to an illegible level.

Or has TWTD been told to exclude them for some elephant in the room reason.

I find the official Attendances interesting. You can pick up that the attendance at Brighton's ground was in the 41,000 ballpark from watching the last 10 minutes of MotD but you may need to pause the video as it flashes by very quickly. I only saw MotD 'live' so can't be more accurate than that.
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Elephant in the room time on 22:00 - Sep 18 with 1512 viewsunbelievablue

I think that’s overblown, didn’t feel like that to me.

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Elephant in the room time on 22:07 - Sep 18 with 1504 viewsbenrhyddingblue

Elephant in the room time on 20:30 - Sep 18 by Facefacts

Here is an elephant in the room question, or, how to kill a thread with a comment which is on topic with the thread subject but is not very interesting at all.

I queried the Huddersfield attendance last season, so I have previous on this. Don't want to revisit that but:

Why have the Attendances disappeared from the Fixtures page. Are they so big now that they won't fit in the column without reducing the font size to an illegible level.

Or has TWTD been told to exclude them for some elephant in the room reason.

I find the official Attendances interesting. You can pick up that the attendance at Brighton's ground was in the 41,000 ballpark from watching the last 10 minutes of MotD but you may need to pause the video as it flashes by very quickly. I only saw MotD 'live' so can't be more accurate than that.


Errrr! The attendance was around 31,500 - that’s what flashed up on the big screen at actual game!
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Elephant in the room time on 22:11 - Sep 18 with 1481 viewsAVJones

Elephant in the room time on 20:02 - Sep 18 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Why "LOL"? I think we've recruited insanely well, this window. If we stay up, and these young, promising players grow in experience and skill, we have a better team next term. If we go down, we have some very good players to sell for a profit.

There's nothing "LOL" about that.


4 games and 2 points tells us nothing about how well we recruited.

35+ points by May says we recruited well.

It’s only just begun
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Elephant in the room time on 22:19 - Sep 18 with 1464 viewsAVJones

Elephant in the room time on 20:02 - Sep 18 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Why "LOL"? I think we've recruited insanely well, this window. If we stay up, and these young, promising players grow in experience and skill, we have a better team next term. If we go down, we have some very good players to sell for a profit.

There's nothing "LOL" about that.


If we go down these ‘promising players’ won’t have been good enough.

And will they all want to stay? I doubt it. And who knows who would want to buy them anyway. It could be tricky.

And, also, will those who got us up but haven’t played much be keen to stay either? They may feel let down…

If you spend a fortune you have to stay up. Or risk massive player turnover (again).
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Elephant in the room time on 22:34 - Sep 18 with 1427 viewsFrimleyBlue

Elephant in the room time on 20:02 - Sep 18 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Why "LOL"? I think we've recruited insanely well, this window. If we stay up, and these young, promising players grow in experience and skill, we have a better team next term. If we go down, we have some very good players to sell for a profit.

There's nothing "LOL" about that.


The LOL is not expecting us to spend another 100 mill should we stay up.
These are ambitious owners with an ambitious chairman and ceo and an ambitious manager, we won't see a high turnover in players imo but we will continue to see lots of money spent the longer we stay in the premierleague, there's a world of football out there for us to play and compete in and this board will drive the club forwards to get there.

Phillips for example if we stay up will be hot on the list, and that won't be cheap, let alone reaching the next level of players we could attract by staying up.

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Elephant in the room time on 22:50 - Sep 18 with 1421 viewsKieran_Knows

Elephant in the room time on 12:35 - Sep 18 by positivity

is 'he' still about? the board is so much better with a few well deployed ignores...


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Elephant in the room time on 22:58 - Sep 18 with 1402 viewsPhilTWTD

Elephant in the room time on 20:30 - Sep 18 by Facefacts

Here is an elephant in the room question, or, how to kill a thread with a comment which is on topic with the thread subject but is not very interesting at all.

I queried the Huddersfield attendance last season, so I have previous on this. Don't want to revisit that but:

Why have the Attendances disappeared from the Fixtures page. Are they so big now that they won't fit in the column without reducing the font size to an illegible level.

Or has TWTD been told to exclude them for some elephant in the room reason.

I find the official Attendances interesting. You can pick up that the attendance at Brighton's ground was in the 41,000 ballpark from watching the last 10 minutes of MotD but you may need to pause the video as it flashes by very quickly. I only saw MotD 'live' so can't be more accurate than that.


Just been overlooked on th fixtures page, will get them added. At Man City they didn't mention it but think I've covered them in the other reports.
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Elephant in the room time on 04:19 - Sep 19 with 1258 viewsBenters

Elephant in the room time on 15:36 - Sep 18 by blueasfook

A point away against the 3rd placed side in the league after being battered for most of the game deserves celebrating I think.


This.

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Elephant in the room time on 04:54 - Sep 19 with 1239 viewsMK1

Elephant in the room time on 22:11 - Sep 18 by AVJones

4 games and 2 points tells us nothing about how well we recruited.

35+ points by May says we recruited well.

It’s only just begun


That's the point. We can't say that we will spend £100M next season, because we don't know how well our new signings are going to perform. If they live up to KM's expectations, then we will not need to spend another £100M next summer. The assumption that we are just going to spend, spend, spend is a little presumptuous.

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Elephant in the room time on 08:23 - Sep 19 with 1117 viewsOlcol

Elephant in the room time on 04:54 - Sep 19 by MK1

That's the point. We can't say that we will spend £100M next season, because we don't know how well our new signings are going to perform. If they live up to KM's expectations, then we will not need to spend another £100M next summer. The assumption that we are just going to spend, spend, spend is a little presumptuous.


We have already spent about 25 million a year for the next 4 years. With increased wages and any further buying we have to be careful not to break financial fair play rules. Our allowable losses will increase yearly if we stay up for the next two years.
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Elephant in the room time on 09:47 - Sep 19 with 1035 views_clive_baker_

Elephant in the room time on 22:34 - Sep 18 by FrimleyBlue

The LOL is not expecting us to spend another 100 mill should we stay up.
These are ambitious owners with an ambitious chairman and ceo and an ambitious manager, we won't see a high turnover in players imo but we will continue to see lots of money spent the longer we stay in the premierleague, there's a world of football out there for us to play and compete in and this board will drive the club forwards to get there.

Phillips for example if we stay up will be hot on the list, and that won't be cheap, let alone reaching the next level of players we could attract by staying up.


Its a moot point and not a question anyone can answer right now, even the decision makers probably.

We spent a lot this summer because we were starting from a much lower base and have effectively recruited a whole side with the exception of a couple of positions. New keeper, new centre backs, new right back albeit not starting, a whole new front 4 (Hutchinson obviously was here on loan), new CM plus 1 on the bench.

£100m is a lot to spend in 1 window, not just by our standards but by most clubs in the premier league. Supposing we finish 16th on 40 points then as you say we'll definitely spend again, but there's no guarantees it would be to the levels we did this summer by way of net spend.
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Elephant in the room time on 09:51 - Sep 19 with 1018 viewsFacefacts

Elephant in the room time on 22:58 - Sep 18 by PhilTWTD

Just been overlooked on th fixtures page, will get them added. At Man City they didn't mention it but think I've covered them in the other reports.


Phil, I just re-watched MotD. 41,573 was what they put up on screen. So it was probably 31,573. Thanks, it would be great to have all the attendances up as usual.
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Elephant in the room time on 09:52 - Sep 19 with 1012 viewsIPSWICHFANITFC

Elephant in the room time on 12:29 - Sep 18 by MalcolmBlue

You have no benchmark, we haven’t won a game yet, so how do you know we reacted like it was a win?

We reacted like it was one crucial away point against one of the hardest teams in league to get anything from…and in a league where every point counts.

Wait till you see how we react after we get our first 3 points ;)


The last two seasons where we've won plenty of games is the benchmark for a win. Seeing the celebrations after those wins is what I'm basing it off. It's just what I saw and felt and going off the replies, it's a mixed bag of agree/disagree which is fine - it was just my opinion.

I agree that every point matters though, just felt like it was an overreaction afterwards. We battled well for that point and like I said, I didn't feel we'd come away with anything before kick off.

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Elephant in the room time on 09:55 - Sep 19 with 999 viewsIPSWICHFANITFC

Elephant in the room time on 14:00 - Sep 18 by franz_tyson

If after 10-15 games we're celebrating draws against mid-table teams as if it's a win - then that's a bit worrying. Things have yet to settle down and we're working stuff out.

I'll take those draws as a positive and as a platform to build -but we've got to start winning at some point. Think some think all we have to do is beat a fellow bottom side and get the odd draw against a mid-table side to survive. Don't think it works that way. Forest win against Liverpool shows there are plenty of weird results and we can't rely on bottom sides losing and us outstripping them with draws.
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Best view of things I've read. Well said.

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