"Honest Bob" Jenrick 20:34 - Sep 30 with 4663 views | EdwardStone | Just putting this out there Tory leadership hopeful Robert Jenrick represents the parliamentary constituency of Newark Newark is the only town in UK that is an anagram of w@nker Just saying...... |  | | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 20:37 - Sep 30 with 3582 views | Ryorry | |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 20:47 - Sep 30 with 3522 views | EdwardStone |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 20:37 - Sep 30 by Ryorry | |
One of the very few good things about this latest leadership contest is we won't have to listen to the booming fruity tones of Graham Brady announcing the winner as he foists yet another hopless right wing basket-case onto us |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 20:54 - Sep 30 with 3489 views | Ryorry |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 20:47 - Sep 30 by EdwardStone | One of the very few good things about this latest leadership contest is we won't have to listen to the booming fruity tones of Graham Brady announcing the winner as he foists yet another hopless right wing basket-case onto us |
Interesting interview with Brady on R4 yesterday, think it was in the 1pm news prog. but not sure. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:31 - Sep 30 with 3329 views | ElderGrizzly |
And i’m sure this is all legit |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:31 - Sep 30 with 3328 views | GeoffSentence | Wasnt he the bloke who fast tracked a tory donors planning application so it got through just in time to avoid legislation that would have cost said donor millions of pounds in tax? |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:36 - Sep 30 with 3305 views | GeoffSentence |
Small change then. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:52 - Sep 30 with 3259 views | SoCalTownFan |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:36 - Sep 30 by GeoffSentence | Small change then. |
They lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. They have no principles or politics other than "i want to be in charge". If this is a surprise to anyone they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Even if you hate Farage, you know what he stands for. With the Tories and Labour, you have no idea what you are going to get, but its a pretty good bet right now it is somewhere along the lines of socialism or communism respectively, irrespective of what they say. |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 22:35 - Sep 30 with 3172 views | factual_blue | He's a tory, so ipso facto dishonest. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 22:41 - Sep 30 with 3158 views | jontysnut |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:52 - Sep 30 by SoCalTownFan | They lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. They have no principles or politics other than "i want to be in charge". If this is a surprise to anyone they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Even if you hate Farage, you know what he stands for. With the Tories and Labour, you have no idea what you are going to get, but its a pretty good bet right now it is somewhere along the lines of socialism or communism respectively, irrespective of what they say. |
I know what Farage thinks about the things he wants to talk about but feck all else |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 23:19 - Sep 30 with 3051 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 22:41 - Sep 30 by jontysnut | I know what Farage thinks about the things he wants to talk about but feck all else |
We know that he is not keen on the NHS; he wants us to move to an 'insurance based' system of health provision. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 07:54 - Oct 1 with 2860 views | Churchman | No need to worry about them. They’ll be infighting for years and have literally nothing to offer. After 14 years of vindictive, bogus ideology based destruction it’ll take a couple of generations and the current clowns cleared away for them to become viable. My guess? 15 to 20 years. I watched the BBC Sunday programme. I had to laugh. Penny Mordant was talking about public service - as if any of the tories are interested in that. The never have been and on the basis they’re only interested in the 1% richest in this country, never will. If they want to attract votes, they should put Sooty in charge. But then he’d never be stupid enough to take the job. |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:27 - Oct 1 with 2795 views | redrickstuhaart |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:52 - Sep 30 by SoCalTownFan | They lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. They have no principles or politics other than "i want to be in charge". If this is a surprise to anyone they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Even if you hate Farage, you know what he stands for. With the Tories and Labour, you have no idea what you are going to get, but its a pretty good bet right now it is somewhere along the lines of socialism or communism respectively, irrespective of what they say. |
What on earth are you on about? Labour will be on the lines of communism? And the tories "socialism"? Batshyte crazy. |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:33 - Oct 1 with 2757 views | GlasgowBlue |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 23:19 - Sep 30 by Tangledupin_Blue | We know that he is not keen on the NHS; he wants us to move to an 'insurance based' system of health provision. |
As long as it’s it’s something along the lines of an insurance based system that all of out progressive European neighbours use, which delivers better outcomes on things like cancer and heart disease, and not the US system which no other country in the world uses, then I’m all for it. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:36 - Oct 1 with 2739 views | Keno |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:52 - Sep 30 by SoCalTownFan | They lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. They have no principles or politics other than "i want to be in charge". If this is a surprise to anyone they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Even if you hate Farage, you know what he stands for. With the Tories and Labour, you have no idea what you are going to get, but its a pretty good bet right now it is somewhere along the lines of socialism or communism respectively, irrespective of what they say. |
Farage stands for one thing and one this only ........ himself We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you Farage is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in himself and has two themes ... making you afraid, and telling you who's to blame. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how Farage wins elections. You gather a group of middle age, middle class, middle income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family, and values and character, and you tell them who's to blame for their lot in life. Yes We've got serious problems, and we need serious people, not Nigel "Blame the Foreigner to make me more money Farage' |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:50 - Oct 1 with 2715 views | Swansea_Blue | What with Badenoch's cockups over maternity pay yesterday, we really are in for a treat in getting to see what the bottom of the barrel looks like. There really isn't a lot of (any?) talent left in the Tory party upper ranks is there? |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:57 - Oct 1 with 2674 views | DJR |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:33 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue | As long as it’s it’s something along the lines of an insurance based system that all of out progressive European neighbours use, which delivers better outcomes on things like cancer and heart disease, and not the US system which no other country in the world uses, then I’m all for it. |
I met a friend from Paris last week. Now that he is retired, I asked him if he would ever contemplate returning to the UK. He gave the excellence of French system, in contrast to state of the NHS, as his reason for not doing so especially with his advancing years. [Post edited 1 Oct 2024 9:00]
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 09:15 - Oct 1 with 2624 views | ElderGrizzly |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 07:54 - Oct 1 by Churchman | No need to worry about them. They’ll be infighting for years and have literally nothing to offer. After 14 years of vindictive, bogus ideology based destruction it’ll take a couple of generations and the current clowns cleared away for them to become viable. My guess? 15 to 20 years. I watched the BBC Sunday programme. I had to laugh. Penny Mordant was talking about public service - as if any of the tories are interested in that. The never have been and on the basis they’re only interested in the 1% richest in this country, never will. If they want to attract votes, they should put Sooty in charge. But then he’d never be stupid enough to take the job. |
Looks like he is trying really hard for the Reform vote today. Claiming the SAS are killing targets rather than chance it with the ECHR Every leadership candidate and the army have turned on him this morning |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 09:20 - Oct 1 with 2618 views | Blueschev |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 21:52 - Sep 30 by SoCalTownFan | They lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. They have no principles or politics other than "i want to be in charge". If this is a surprise to anyone they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Even if you hate Farage, you know what he stands for. With the Tories and Labour, you have no idea what you are going to get, but its a pretty good bet right now it is somewhere along the lines of socialism or communism respectively, irrespective of what they say. |
How is it a good bet when you have no idea what you're going to get? A much safer bet would be that you have no idea what socialism of communism even are. |  | |  |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 10:39 - Oct 1 with 2467 views | You_Bloo_Right |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 09:20 - Oct 1 by Blueschev | How is it a good bet when you have no idea what you're going to get? A much safer bet would be that you have no idea what socialism of communism even are. |
Come on, be fair. Labour's manifesto was headlined "Seizing the Means of Production". And there was paragraph after paragraph in the Tory literature about re-nationalisation. That's right isn't it? |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 10:45 - Oct 1 with 2429 views | pointofblue |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 07:54 - Oct 1 by Churchman | No need to worry about them. They’ll be infighting for years and have literally nothing to offer. After 14 years of vindictive, bogus ideology based destruction it’ll take a couple of generations and the current clowns cleared away for them to become viable. My guess? 15 to 20 years. I watched the BBC Sunday programme. I had to laugh. Penny Mordant was talking about public service - as if any of the tories are interested in that. The never have been and on the basis they’re only interested in the 1% richest in this country, never will. If they want to attract votes, they should put Sooty in charge. But then he’d never be stupid enough to take the job. |
My concern is Cameron's version of the Conservatives would be preferable to Reform. At least they'd be more likely to take votes off the latter. At this stage I think the country is moving towards a Reform government in 2029 - we need the Tories to be strong enough to take away enough votes to stop that. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 10:50 - Oct 1 with 2400 views | positivity |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:33 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue | As long as it’s it’s something along the lines of an insurance based system that all of out progressive European neighbours use, which delivers better outcomes on things like cancer and heart disease, and not the US system which no other country in the world uses, then I’m all for it. |
consider how close farage is to trump (who thinks that any improvements to the US system are dangerously socialist) and how much he loves "progressive european neighbours" and take a wild guess as to which he'll go for! |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 11:24 - Oct 1 with 2291 views | Ryorry |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 08:33 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue | As long as it’s it’s something along the lines of an insurance based system that all of out progressive European neighbours use, which delivers better outcomes on things like cancer and heart disease, and not the US system which no other country in the world uses, then I’m all for it. |
An insurance based system that excludes any/all conditions as soon as they become apparent; and puts premiums up to unaffordable levels for all but the healthy & wealthy - no thanks. |  |
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"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 11:33 - Oct 1 with 2256 views | Churchman |
"Honest Bob" Jenrick on 10:45 - Oct 1 by pointofblue | My concern is Cameron's version of the Conservatives would be preferable to Reform. At least they'd be more likely to take votes off the latter. At this stage I think the country is moving towards a Reform government in 2029 - we need the Tories to be strong enough to take away enough votes to stop that. |
Reform is just a sad protest movement of disenchanted ostriches. They won’t last. If the remains of the Tories choose to double down on what got them to the position they’re in and the country is in they’ll never be elected in anyone alive now’s lifetime. They’re done. Hopefully, the saner ones will one day form an effective opposition and potential alternative but that won’t be for many years. |  | |  |
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