| Martin 20:47 - Sep 30 with 4810 views | Garv |
It probably seems like a bit of a pile on with him at the moment, especially with us lot, and it's not deliberate, but I just find it hard to believe that players are in any way inspired by him and his management.
Even ignoring the results he's getting he just seems to be in a constant state of negativity. Every setback or last minute goal conceded is the end of the world to him, he's frustrated or "gutted" or angry.
He looks like the kind of manager you'd see having a public slanging match with one of his subs in the dugout.
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| Martin on 20:56 - Sep 30 with 4360 views | Dubtractor |
Its also never about him doing anything wrong, and always about the players not executing his plan properly, or the players not being brave enough etc. Never an ounce of taking responsibility from him. |  |
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| Martin on 20:58 - Sep 30 with 4308 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Martin on 20:56 - Sep 30 by Dubtractor |
Its also never about him doing anything wrong, and always about the players not executing his plan properly, or the players not being brave enough etc. Never an ounce of taking responsibility from him. |
Yeah he’s happy to throw them under the bus. He comes across as a bit of a narcissist, just a shame his level of ability doesn’t match his ego. |  | | |
| Martin on 20:59 - Sep 30 with 4285 views | Chris_ITFC |
Crouching on the touchline is another 'vibes' move, but in reality, draws the wrong kind of attention to himself. |  |
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| Martin on 21:00 - Sep 30 with 4265 views | WestSussexBlue |
Which is very much how it is reported by the local paper (Daily Echo) | | | |
| Martin on 21:04 - Sep 30 with 4186 views | ElderGrizzly |
He just came out 3 minutes before his players at HT.
Feels as though he is trying too hard to be a ‘thing’ and act up to a certain caricature? It’s like he just found Mourinho from 25 years ago |  | | |
| Martin on 21:05 - Sep 30 with 4162 views | NthQldITFC |
To be fair to the bloke, you're gonna be in a constant state of negativity if you played your most of your 'football' at little ol' trophy dodging Norwich! |  |
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| Martin on 21:28 - Sep 30 with 3974 views | Illinoisblue |
Annoying as he is, I dislike Bournemouth even more. Still bitter at the “plucky little Cherries” narrative in 2014/15 as if they weren’t bankrolled by a Russian billionaire AND broke ffp rules. |  |
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| Martin on 21:34 - Sep 30 with 3896 views | Garv |
| Martin on 20:59 - Sep 30 by Chris_ITFC |
Crouching on the touchline is another 'vibes' move, but in reality, draws the wrong kind of attention to himself. |
Yes, very much this. | |
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| Martin on 21:41 - Sep 30 with 3823 views | Europablue |
The contrast to McKenna is so jarring to us because we used to a class act. I personally can't stand the focus on possession. Without being targeted possession doesn't count for much and if you are hardly ever incisive, then it makes for a very boring watch. | | | |
| Martin on 21:50 - Sep 30 with 3749 views | Guthrum |
| Martin on 21:04 - Sep 30 by ElderGrizzly |
He just came out 3 minutes before his players at HT.
Feels as though he is trying too hard to be a ‘thing’ and act up to a certain caricature? It’s like he just found Mourinho from 25 years ago |
Why would a manager be coming out ages before the players, has he run out of things to say? |  |
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| Martin on 21:56 - Sep 30 with 3668 views | Plums |
| Martin on 21:28 - Sep 30 by Illinoisblue |
Annoying as he is, I dislike Bournemouth even more. Still bitter at the “plucky little Cherries” narrative in 2014/15 as if they weren’t bankrolled by a Russian billionaire AND broke ffp rules. |
The very same reason I can't stand the love-in for Howe. Nasty, cynical football which is gradually being found out at Newcastle. |  |
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| Martin on 21:59 - Sep 30 with 3628 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Martin on 21:50 - Sep 30 by Guthrum |
Why would a manager be coming out ages before the players, has he run out of things to say? |
He the big man or something ridiculous I’m sure.
Edgy innit | | | |
| Martin on 22:00 - Sep 30 with 3607 views | Leaky |
| Martin on 21:41 - Sep 30 by Europablue |
The contrast to McKenna is so jarring to us because we used to a class act. I personally can't stand the focus on possession. Without being targeted possession doesn't count for much and if you are hardly ever incisive, then it makes for a very boring watch. |
To be honest I thought zvilla we're a bit like that wanted possession to slow the game down according to there pistachio interview |  | | |
| Martin on 22:16 - Sep 30 with 3392 views | Churchman |
God, Martin is a miserable b’stard.
He’s just chucked his players under the bus. Then says he accepts the responsibility??? He’s all over the shop. The contrast to him and the better managers like KM is chalk and cheese.
Dead man walking. [Post edited 30 Sep 2024 22:17]
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| Martin on 07:04 - Oct 1 with 2856 views | BlueBadger |
Who'd have though that a man who spent a significant proportion of his playing career under Paul Lambert would turn out to be an utter fraud who hides when the going gets tough? |  |
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| Martin on 07:10 - Oct 1 with 2802 views | BlueBadger |
| Martin on 20:58 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Yeah he’s happy to throw them under the bus. He comes across as a bit of a narcissist, just a shame his level of ability doesn’t match his ego. |
Martin by BlueBadger 1 Oct 2024 7:04Who'd have though that a man who spent a significant proportion of his playing career under Paul Lambert would turn out to be an utter fraud who hides when the going gets tough?
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| Martin on 07:46 - Oct 1 with 2645 views | Europablue |
| Martin on 22:00 - Sep 30 by Leaky |
To be honest I thought zvilla we're a bit like that wanted possession to slow the game down according to there pistachio interview |
Villa were certainly very economical, but they were also incisive. I felt like they wanted to slow the game down a bit to get control of the game and build towards attacks, but we didn't let them rest. The difference between a very good manager such as Emery and Martin is that Emery's team use their possession to score goals and to keep the opposition at bay. It certainly feels to me that Martin thinks that the aim of the game is to win the possession stats not get the ball over the line. KM is an intelligent manager and he identifies stats that maximize goal scoring balanced with conceding goals and can adapt his game plan. Southampton are a very streaky team, when they are on form, they are very good, but they have a soft underbelly, whereas KM has built a team with steel. Just look at how the crowd react when we go behind. Most supporters drop their heads but we get behind the team even more. Going in 2-1 at halftime didn't feel like our chance had gone. | | | |
| Martin on 07:49 - Oct 1 with 2630 views | Europablue |
If Martin does get the sack it will be for his personality rather than the results. We've had a very solid start to the season, but we are only 3 points ahead of Southampton and even that gap is based on a late late equalizer. When the manager's personality is not working with the club and the players it's time to find a new manager regardless of the results. | | | |
| Martin on 07:58 - Oct 1 with 2555 views | Asa |
| Martin on 07:49 - Oct 1 by Europablue |
If Martin does get the sack it will be for his personality rather than the results. We've had a very solid start to the season, but we are only 3 points ahead of Southampton and even that gap is based on a late late equalizer. When the manager's personality is not working with the club and the players it's time to find a new manager regardless of the results. |
Just goes to show the fine margins.
We have looked really good for large parts across 6 games in all different ways and Saints have been pretty awful and yet that Morsy 95th minute goal is why we are not below them.
Any points you can pick up at the bottom go such a ridiculously long way. | | | |
| Martin on 08:15 - Oct 1 with 2494 views | SaleAway |
Talking of pile on, the Radio 2 sports news at 7:30 even called out his interview for being "surprising" in how he threw the players under the bus. | |
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| Martin on 08:45 - Oct 1 with 2345 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Martin on 20:56 - Sep 30 by Dubtractor |
Its also never about him doing anything wrong, and always about the players not executing his plan properly, or the players not being brave enough etc. Never an ounce of taking responsibility from him. |
He was exactly the same down here at Swansea. He had a narky edge about him and wasn't slow in calling out his players and throwing a strop. And the football was dull as hell more often than not. Someone on here put it perfectly the other day: although in some ways McKenna and MArtin have a similar philosophy in wanting to play with the ball, McKenna is inspired by it and Martin beholden to it. Often it looks like Martin's team's main goal is to get their CBs pass completion stats up. |  |
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| Martin on 09:43 - Oct 1 with 2171 views | nshearman1 |
| Martin on 08:45 - Oct 1 by Swansea_Blue |
He was exactly the same down here at Swansea. He had a narky edge about him and wasn't slow in calling out his players and throwing a strop. And the football was dull as hell more often than not. Someone on here put it perfectly the other day: although in some ways McKenna and MArtin have a similar philosophy in wanting to play with the ball, McKenna is inspired by it and Martin beholden to it. Often it looks like Martin's team's main goal is to get their CBs pass completion stats up. |
I’m hoping Martin stays in his job - and takes them down. That would be best for us. | | | |
| Martin on 09:55 - Oct 1 with 2127 views | CrockerITFC |
It blows my mind when he blames his players though because he's actually highlighting how bad a manager he is.
He's admitting he is running tactics that he's fully aware his team can't handle, so it shows he's inflexible and unable to adapt/create a system that actually fits his team or that they can handle.
And he's also admitting he's a terrible coach because he can't train the players well enough to run his one and only tactic.
It's laughable really because he probably thinks his system would be great and his managerial genius would be fully recognised if he had better players but then if he had better players would those players be getting better results because of his tactics or because of the fact they are just better players. I think probably the latter. [Post edited 1 Oct 2024 9:57]
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| Martin on 09:59 - Oct 1 with 2088 views | selondonblue23 |
| Martin on 09:43 - Oct 1 by nshearman1 |
I’m hoping Martin stays in his job - and takes them down. That would be best for us. |
Something I noticed in his pre-match interview, he used “we” to refer to both Southampton/the current situation and his own managerial career.
Ie “we haven’t picked up as many points as we’d have liked” but also “that’s something we’ve had to adapt to over five years with different players.”
I think it demonstrated how much of this is about him, and his personal ambitions. He also made reference to “this is the style of play I need to play in order to become the coach I want to be” or similar.
And then throw in his post-match interview, which was just all over the place. I can’t imagine the Southampton players would think much of seeing their manager so emotional like he was.
He’s obviously done OK up to this point as a manager but I think his focus on himself is why he can be so divisive (and come across a bit David Brent, a bit High Performance podcast).
Compare how he talks to other managers, and while I’m sure they’re all thinking about themselves too to a lesser or greater degree, they speak about themselves as part of the whole not as leaders standing out by themselves trying to make it all happen. He needs a good media manager, and/or to listen to how other managers do interviews. | | | |
| Martin on 10:26 - Oct 1 with 2011 views | Europablue |
| Martin on 09:43 - Oct 1 by nshearman1 |
I’m hoping Martin stays in his job - and takes them down. That would be best for us. |
The main thing we need from Southampton is the 3 points when we play them at home. Other than that, I don't worry too much about them. For the people looking for 3 teams to be worse than us, they still need to find 2 more.
I personally think we should be looking up the table and aiming to take 3 points in every match and take the point if that's all we can manage, basically keep doing as we have been doing. | | | |
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