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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! 06:19 - Oct 31 with 9081 viewsgtsb1966

Yes I know the lady has a disability and wants to work but can't so it's not a dig at her but that's a ridiculous amount of money. Millions don't even earn that working 40 hours a week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv8y68e25o
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:30 - Oct 31 with 1593 viewsLeaky

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:17 - Oct 31 by noggin

The largest shareholder is the sovereign wealth fund of Qatar.


Yes they are but only just, the rest are nearly all Investment funds who hold vastly more shares than Quatar
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:31 - Oct 31 with 1589 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:30 - Oct 31 by Leaky

Yes they are but only just, the rest are nearly all Investment funds who hold vastly more shares than Quatar


Most of which are based abroad.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:33 - Oct 31 with 1565 viewslowhouseblue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:27 - Oct 31 by noggin

I'm fine with it. The Norwegian wealth fund is doing very nicely by investing in poorer countries like the UK. Those profits are my future pension. Not sure it's benefiting you though.


that's very capitalist of you having a pension. so you and / or your employer / the state have saved and you now expect to earn a return on those savings to pay you a pension. of course, if you offered those savings out to, say, sainsbury's, without expecting any return they could pay their workers much more. you greedy b*stard.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:36 - Oct 31 with 1539 viewsbluelagos

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:15 - Oct 31 by MattinLondon

All it can take is for one unexpected event to take hold and ruin the life plans for an individual.


Indeed

I have three female relatives who lost husbands (One murdered, one to cancer, one to suicide) in their 30s/40s and whose financial situation was changed overnight as they focused on parenting alone, whilst trying to maintain a home, never my mind considering their long term financial plans.

Someone described some of the comments as "odious" and irrespective of their experiences, am struggling to see beyond that.

People can choose to be kind or they can chose to be judgemental pricks. As ever.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:37 - Oct 31 with 1516 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 10:39 - Oct 31 by noggin

Do you think Sainsbury,s shareholders are just getting by?


The problem is people always use the examples of huge profitable multinationals which really shows a lack of understanding of the wider economy. In reality the bulk of the UK workforce are employed by SME’s whose margins are far smaller. With COVID and the cost of living crisis huge numbers have been squeezed out of existence. More companies have failed in the UK than in the GFC so huge wage rises would send even more under.

If you pay people lots more, the cost of everything goes up and nobody is actually better off. Our wages are comparable to the rest of Western Europe. The problem is the cost of living (particularly housing). This is what needs to be tackled.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:39 - Oct 31 with 1501 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:33 - Oct 31 by lowhouseblue

that's very capitalist of you having a pension. so you and / or your employer / the state have saved and you now expect to earn a return on those savings to pay you a pension. of course, if you offered those savings out to, say, sainsbury's, without expecting any return they could pay their workers much more. you greedy b*stard.


The Norwegian wealth fund is owned by the Norwegian people. If Britain wants to sell its assets to that fund, who am I to complain? I'm sure you'd rather Britain didn't sell it's assets though?

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:39 - Oct 31 with 1493 viewsleitrimblue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 10:50 - Oct 31 by thebooks

It means do you think Sainsbury’s isn’t capable of paying an extra £3.66/hour to its workers earning less than £15.87/h.

I think you’re answering the question? They could, but they wouldn’t if it risked shareholder payments, so they’d pass the cost on to other workers.

Low margin doesn’t equal low profit, obviously.


Come on, be fair to Mr Sainsbury, he's only forecasted yo make a billion pound this year.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:40 - Oct 31 with 1482 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:37 - Oct 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

The problem is people always use the examples of huge profitable multinationals which really shows a lack of understanding of the wider economy. In reality the bulk of the UK workforce are employed by SME’s whose margins are far smaller. With COVID and the cost of living crisis huge numbers have been squeezed out of existence. More companies have failed in the UK than in the GFC so huge wage rises would send even more under.

If you pay people lots more, the cost of everything goes up and nobody is actually better off. Our wages are comparable to the rest of Western Europe. The problem is the cost of living (particularly housing). This is what needs to be tackled.


Surely squeezed out by those multi nationals though. Smaller companies can't compete.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:41 - Oct 31 with 1471 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:39 - Oct 31 by leitrimblue

Come on, be fair to Mr Sainsbury, he's only forecasted yo make a billion pound this year.


Very nice for Qatar.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:41 - Oct 31 with 1459 viewsDJR

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:45 - Oct 31 with 1406 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:40 - Oct 31 by noggin

Surely squeezed out by those multi nationals though. Smaller companies can't compete.


They can compete hence they are the backbone of our economy. It’s a little more nuanced than that with industry specific squeezes - not that it’s relevant to my point. Given the margins how do you propose SME’s absorb additional costs given they employ around 70pc of thr UK workforce it’s quite an important point.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:53 - Oct 31 with 1355 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:45 - Oct 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

They can compete hence they are the backbone of our economy. It’s a little more nuanced than that with industry specific squeezes - not that it’s relevant to my point. Given the margins how do you propose SME’s absorb additional costs given they employ around 70pc of thr UK workforce it’s quite an important point.


But that sounds like they're only able to compete by cutting costs to the bare minimum.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 14:14 - Oct 31 with 1164 viewsjontysnut

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:59 - Oct 31 by artsbossbeard

Kirsty has several disabilities, including a connective tissue disorder which causes her joints to dislocate. As per the article, she's severely disabled. I'd not swap places with her.

Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs.

Grrr! Stop paying for hotels for them forinners, look after our own first. No, not Kirsty though.


Also this isn't really a representative sample as housing benefit has been replaced with Universal Credit and the employment assessment tests are far more strict now. Of course people play the system, but the amount of tax fraud is much greater than benefit fraud yet the latter is where 'crackdowns' are always focused. For me in-work poverty is a bigger scandal.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 14:33 - Oct 31 with 1114 viewsgiant_stow

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:27 - Oct 31 by noggin

I'm fine with it. The Norwegian wealth fund is doing very nicely by investing in poorer countries like the UK. Those profits are my future pension. Not sure it's benefiting you though.


We should all move to Norway to enjoy the fruits of the fossil fuel industry, with the added bonus of being able to look down our noses at the struggling plebs.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 15:08 - Oct 31 with 1051 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 14:33 - Oct 31 by giant_stow

We should all move to Norway to enjoy the fruits of the fossil fuel industry, with the added bonus of being able to look down our noses at the struggling plebs.


Well at least the profits go to the people, unlike oil from British waters.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 15:17 - Oct 31 with 1021 viewsjontysnut

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 15:08 - Oct 31 by noggin

Well at least the profits go to the people, unlike oil from British waters.


As someone said we want Scandinavian levels of public infrastructure with American levels of tax
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 15:25 - Oct 31 with 989 viewsClapham_Junction

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:29 - Oct 31 by redrickstuhaart

There is a massive problem with the benefits bill. It keeps growing, and it is correct that some people are able to rake in a decent living on benefits, beyond what others are making through hard work.

The source of those problems is up for debate but two things leap to mind:

1- lack of resources for health social and mental health care has meant that people don't get help they need until they are in crisis. This inevitably has both immediate and long terms impacts on the work force and ability to work

2- If you run a small business paying minimum wage or close to it, and you are taking profit from that business that exceeds minimum wage for yourself, you are NOT running a viable business or contributing positively to the economy. You are being subsidised by the state, who have to top up the pay of the employees to enable them to live. This needs to stop.


Another key element is the historic government policies that have increase the cost of living for the worst off.

Right to buy is the main one of these - if we had not lost millions of council houses (or prevented councils from continuing to build them in large numbers), the benefits bill would be billions of pounds lower. Nicole's rent would be £450/month rather than £1250, nearly £10k/yr difference.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 16:15 - Oct 31 with 900 viewsBlueBadger

Nice to see all the 'be kind' crowd win here sneering at the fact that someone severely disabled is not only being housed but might even be being fed as well.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 16:22 - Oct 31 with 879 viewsBlueBadger

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:15 - Oct 31 by NedPlimpton

Genuinely can't believe the lack of compassion I'm reading on here.

Saying a disabled person should move house to a completely new area or that someone still paying a mortgage in their 70s should have planned their lives better. You have absolutely no idea about these people's circumstances beyond a couple of hundred words in a BBC article.

I suggest you walk a mile in someone else's shoes before commenting.

And "me and my daughter reckon someone else is earning 30k in benefits and it's not fair" 😂. If you're jealous of someone on benefits then go and claim what they're claiming! Unless you're not able to, then don't make comparisons!!
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Some of the people on here are are going to be fücking furious when they find out what the royal family 'earns'.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:23 - Oct 31 with 759 viewsLeaky

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 14:33 - Oct 31 by giant_stow

We should all move to Norway to enjoy the fruits of the fossil fuel industry, with the added bonus of being able to look down our noses at the struggling plebs.


Plus the added advantage of the Russian invasion of Ukraine forcing oil & gas prices. There again Noggin being a good socialist will donate his pension profits to the people of Ukraine
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:28 - Oct 31 with 746 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:23 - Oct 31 by Leaky

Plus the added advantage of the Russian invasion of Ukraine forcing oil & gas prices. There again Noggin being a good socialist will donate his pension profits to the people of Ukraine


Britain has oil. Just sit back and enjoy the fruits of it.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:47 - Oct 31 with 684 viewsLeaky

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:28 - Oct 31 by noggin

Britain has oil. Just sit back and enjoy the fruits of it.


Was that a yes or no donating your capitalist gain to Ukraine
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:54 - Oct 31 with 671 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 11:45 - Oct 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

They can compete hence they are the backbone of our economy. It’s a little more nuanced than that with industry specific squeezes - not that it’s relevant to my point. Given the margins how do you propose SME’s absorb additional costs given they employ around 70pc of thr UK workforce it’s quite an important point.


Hmmmmm......how about smaller profits?

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 17:55 - Oct 31 with 656 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 14:33 - Oct 31 by giant_stow

We should all move to Norway to enjoy the fruits of the fossil fuel industry, with the added bonus of being able to look down our noses at the struggling plebs.


Why would we do that with Norfolk next door?

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 18:00 - Oct 31 with 631 viewsjontysnut

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 15:25 - Oct 31 by Clapham_Junction

Another key element is the historic government policies that have increase the cost of living for the worst off.

Right to buy is the main one of these - if we had not lost millions of council houses (or prevented councils from continuing to build them in large numbers), the benefits bill would be billions of pounds lower. Nicole's rent would be £450/month rather than £1250, nearly £10k/yr difference.


Right to buy and 'shareholding democracy' were two of the biggest deluded Thatcherite policies. My mum and dad scrimped and saved to pay a mortgage on a pretty modest bungalow. My uncle, similar age as my dad had a nice big council house on Chantry. Bought it under right to buy at well below market rate and then sold up and bought a place on the Dales. My dad felt cheated. It was ideological madness.
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