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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! 06:19 - Oct 31 with 9567 viewsgtsb1966

Yes I know the lady has a disability and wants to work but can't so it's not a dig at her but that's a ridiculous amount of money. Millions don't even earn that working 40 hours a week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv8y68e25o
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:06 - Oct 31 with 5484 viewsnoggin

Surely your last sentence is the story here.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:17 - Oct 31 with 5424 viewsBenters

Jeez that’s a shed load of money.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:24 - Oct 31 with 5395 viewstcblue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:17 - Oct 31 by Benters

Jeez that’s a shed load of money.


Drop in the ocean compared to the welfare state's spending on pensioners though, I'm sure you'll agree
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:29 - Oct 31 with 5335 viewsjontysnut

It also represents a high level of disability. PIP payments are also available to working people who need daily help doing basic tasks or getting around.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 07:39 - Oct 31 with 5268 viewsCheltenham_Blue

So, what should we do? Make her move out of her home an into a smaller one?
Withdraw her PIP payments?

What is an ‘acceptable’ amount of money for someone like her?

You say that you aren’t having a dig at her, but you are, by saying someone like her shouldn’t get all that money.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:10 - Oct 31 with 5064 viewsthebooks

Then pay millions working 40h a week more.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:22 - Oct 31 with 4958 viewsFrimleyBlue

Kirsty should have broader look at renting, 2 bedroom flats here for under £1000 PCM, compared to the 1 bedroom flats for £1300 she's finding.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?searchLocation=Essex&



For the 70 year old, talking of mortgage doubling, thats why you do everything to get it sorted before you become retired with a mortgage.

Think to many people enjoyed the low rates of interest and just sat on it, rather than using it as a great opportunity to pay off more from their mortgages.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:42 - Oct 31 with 4853 viewsJ2BLUE

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:22 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue

Kirsty should have broader look at renting, 2 bedroom flats here for under £1000 PCM, compared to the 1 bedroom flats for £1300 she's finding.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?searchLocation=Essex&



For the 70 year old, talking of mortgage doubling, thats why you do everything to get it sorted before you become retired with a mortgage.

Think to many people enjoyed the low rates of interest and just sat on it, rather than using it as a great opportunity to pay off more from their mortgages.

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We don't know anyone's individual circumstances.

That Kirsty may save a fortune on childcare costs by living closer to family/friends.

The 70 year old could have had bad luck or a large bill to pay for some reason.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:45 - Oct 31 with 4808 viewsOldFart71

Strange you should say that as I know someone personally that myself and Daughter worked out that with their benefits and all they could obtain free that this persons income was around £30,000. That's where the unfairness kicks in. I worked from my teens through to 71 and never earned that amount. Don't get me wrong I have every sympathy with disabled and those for other reasons cannot work. But if a Governments aim is to get those capable of working then work and not sitting at home needs to pay. If that means still paying some benefit on top of their wage then so be it. Make it worthwhile to work.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:47 - Oct 31 with 4776 viewsAxeldalai_lama

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:22 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue

Kirsty should have broader look at renting, 2 bedroom flats here for under £1000 PCM, compared to the 1 bedroom flats for £1300 she's finding.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?searchLocation=Essex&



For the 70 year old, talking of mortgage doubling, thats why you do everything to get it sorted before you become retired with a mortgage.

Think to many people enjoyed the low rates of interest and just sat on it, rather than using it as a great opportunity to pay off more from their mortgages.

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So the 70 year old should buy a time machine?
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:53 - Oct 31 with 4713 viewsFrimleyBlue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:47 - Oct 31 by Axeldalai_lama

So the 70 year old should buy a time machine?


No, she should be planned her life better.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:53 - Oct 31 with 4726 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:45 - Oct 31 by OldFart71

Strange you should say that as I know someone personally that myself and Daughter worked out that with their benefits and all they could obtain free that this persons income was around £30,000. That's where the unfairness kicks in. I worked from my teens through to 71 and never earned that amount. Don't get me wrong I have every sympathy with disabled and those for other reasons cannot work. But if a Governments aim is to get those capable of working then work and not sitting at home needs to pay. If that means still paying some benefit on top of their wage then so be it. Make it worthwhile to work.


"If that means still paying some benefit on top of their wage then so be it."

Why should the taxpayer subsidise low wages. What is the incentive for employers to pay decent wages?

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:59 - Oct 31 with 4664 viewsartsbossbeard

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:22 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue

Kirsty should have broader look at renting, 2 bedroom flats here for under £1000 PCM, compared to the 1 bedroom flats for £1300 she's finding.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?searchLocation=Essex&



For the 70 year old, talking of mortgage doubling, thats why you do everything to get it sorted before you become retired with a mortgage.

Think to many people enjoyed the low rates of interest and just sat on it, rather than using it as a great opportunity to pay off more from their mortgages.

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Kirsty has several disabilities, including a connective tissue disorder which causes her joints to dislocate. As per the article, she's severely disabled. I'd not swap places with her.

Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs.

Grrr! Stop paying for hotels for them forinners, look after our own first. No, not Kirsty though.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:02 - Oct 31 with 4608 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:59 - Oct 31 by artsbossbeard

Kirsty has several disabilities, including a connective tissue disorder which causes her joints to dislocate. As per the article, she's severely disabled. I'd not swap places with her.

Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs.

Grrr! Stop paying for hotels for them forinners, look after our own first. No, not Kirsty though.


Yeah but veterans

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:03 - Oct 31 with 4565 viewsFrimleyBlue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:59 - Oct 31 by artsbossbeard

Kirsty has several disabilities, including a connective tissue disorder which causes her joints to dislocate. As per the article, she's severely disabled. I'd not swap places with her.

Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs.

Grrr! Stop paying for hotels for them forinners, look after our own first. No, not Kirsty though.


"Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs."

There's lots of funding available for this and care groups, especially in Essex who offer volunteering programmes for people such as Kirsty.

She also just stats it's to expensive in essex, she didn't say she can't relocate.

Your final point is a different matter, one I share a similar view to a point, but that's a different discussion.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:05 - Oct 31 with 4524 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:03 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue

"Kirsty couldn't, therefore, move from her £1,300 a month pad to a <£1,000 without aid and assistance from others and I'm sure that she has specific equipment that would need professional installs."

There's lots of funding available for this and care groups, especially in Essex who offer volunteering programmes for people such as Kirsty.

She also just stats it's to expensive in essex, she didn't say she can't relocate.

Your final point is a different matter, one I share a similar view to a point, but that's a different discussion.
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Should people be forced to leave their homes and possibly their support network because they fall on hard times?

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:06 - Oct 31 with 4486 viewsLeaky

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 08:10 - Oct 31 by thebooks

Then pay millions working 40h a week more.


That would help the inflation rate
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:09 - Oct 31 with 4437 viewsnoggin

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:06 - Oct 31 by Leaky

That would help the inflation rate


So what are you saying, wages should be lowered? Surely higher wages for working people stimulates growth? I guess the problem is, when people spend more money, it goes to the rich and they hoard it.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:15 - Oct 31 with 4351 viewsNedPlimpton

Genuinely can't believe the lack of compassion I'm reading on here.

Saying a disabled person should move house to a completely new area or that someone still paying a mortgage in their 70s should have planned their lives better. You have absolutely no idea about these people's circumstances beyond a couple of hundred words in a BBC article.

I suggest you walk a mile in someone else's shoes before commenting.

And "me and my daughter reckon someone else is earning 30k in benefits and it's not fair" 😂. If you're jealous of someone on benefits then go and claim what they're claiming! Unless you're not able to, then don't make comparisons!!
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:18 - Oct 31 with 4305 viewsthebooks

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:06 - Oct 31 by Leaky

That would help the inflation rate


I see, the real reason for a 2% inflation target.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:20 - Oct 31 with 4265 viewsFrimleyBlue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:05 - Oct 31 by noggin

Should people be forced to leave their homes and possibly their support network because they fall on hard times?


If it gives the individual a better financial footing then yes they should explore it.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:22 - Oct 31 with 4219 viewsthebooks

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:15 - Oct 31 by NedPlimpton

Genuinely can't believe the lack of compassion I'm reading on here.

Saying a disabled person should move house to a completely new area or that someone still paying a mortgage in their 70s should have planned their lives better. You have absolutely no idea about these people's circumstances beyond a couple of hundred words in a BBC article.

I suggest you walk a mile in someone else's shoes before commenting.

And "me and my daughter reckon someone else is earning 30k in benefits and it's not fair" 😂. If you're jealous of someone on benefits then go and claim what they're claiming! Unless you're not able to, then don't make comparisons!!
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We go through this “but look at those people on benefits” thing every few years. It’s depressing, but as we’ve had 40 years of media spouting the same nonsense unsurprising.

The UK has Mississippi levels of pay. Over 40% of working age adults earn less than the tax threshold while only 4% earn more than £70,000 a year.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:25 - Oct 31 with 4149 viewsFromReuserWithLove

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:22 - Oct 31 by thebooks

We go through this “but look at those people on benefits” thing every few years. It’s depressing, but as we’ve had 40 years of media spouting the same nonsense unsurprising.

The UK has Mississippi levels of pay. Over 40% of working age adults earn less than the tax threshold while only 4% earn more than £70,000 a year.


Hey look at that person taking benefits......whilst they avoid BILLIONS in tax. Benefits are available to all.
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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:29 - Oct 31 with 4091 viewsCheltenham_Blue

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:15 - Oct 31 by NedPlimpton

Genuinely can't believe the lack of compassion I'm reading on here.

Saying a disabled person should move house to a completely new area or that someone still paying a mortgage in their 70s should have planned their lives better. You have absolutely no idea about these people's circumstances beyond a couple of hundred words in a BBC article.

I suggest you walk a mile in someone else's shoes before commenting.

And "me and my daughter reckon someone else is earning 30k in benefits and it's not fair" 😂. If you're jealous of someone on benefits then go and claim what they're claiming! Unless you're not able to, then don't make comparisons!!
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Couple of people on this thread revealing their true colours and one being particularly odious.
With those revealing themselves as Tommy three names ‘troops’ it’s been and odd week.

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£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:29 - Oct 31 with 4089 viewsredrickstuhaart

£33,000 a year on benefits!!! on 09:22 - Oct 31 by thebooks

We go through this “but look at those people on benefits” thing every few years. It’s depressing, but as we’ve had 40 years of media spouting the same nonsense unsurprising.

The UK has Mississippi levels of pay. Over 40% of working age adults earn less than the tax threshold while only 4% earn more than £70,000 a year.


There is a massive problem with the benefits bill. It keeps growing, and it is correct that some people are able to rake in a decent living on benefits, beyond what others are making through hard work.

The source of those problems is up for debate but two things leap to mind:

1- lack of resources for health social and mental health care has meant that people don't get help they need until they are in crisis. This inevitably has both immediate and long terms impacts on the work force and ability to work

2- If you run a small business paying minimum wage or close to it, and you are taking profit from that business that exceeds minimum wage for yourself, you are NOT running a viable business or contributing positively to the economy. You are being subsidised by the state, who have to top up the pay of the employees to enable them to live. This needs to stop.
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