| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 10:41 - Jan 10 with 1767 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:59 - Jan 10 by baxterbasics |
Musk should be more careful if he really wants Starmer out, he's in danger of pushing public opinion the other way. KS was already doing an effective job of losing popularity without the intervention.
I'm a little baffled as to why someone in his (Musks) position cares enough about us to devote this much attention, I thought the UK was the insignificant and unimportant half of this 'special' relationship?!
Unless it really is solely about driving up engagement on X... |
The online safety act might have something to do with it
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-content/countdown-to- |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:37 - Jan 10 with 1667 views | Zx1988 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:39 - Jan 10 by DanTheMan |
I could only understand it from context.
But essentially, you're right. What he's done is paid someone else to play the game for him so he has all the best stuff. He's also done this is another game that is very similar.
Then he plays it on a stream for other people who notice he doesn't know what he's talking about or doing. |
It looks to have been very strongly lawyered as well.
No specific allegations at all - just a few observations which invite the reader to draw their own conclusions.
It seems that the billionaire crybaby is very touchy about being called out for cheating at video games. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:44 - Jan 10 with 1650 views | SomethingBlue |
Cannot really see how this ends well, we're heading in a very dangerous direction indeed and there isn't really enough will to actively reverse it. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:45 - Jan 10 with 1636 views | soupytwist |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:31 - Jan 10 by ElderGrizzly |
News channels over here giving his Dad airtime to say similar things is even worse. |
We saw that with Stanley Johnson for reasons that were never entirely clear to me. |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:50 - Jan 10 with 1605 views | leitrimblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 10:39 - Jan 10 by Guthrum |
Unfortunately, he has just bought the American government. Which may be less powerful than Twitter, but is better armed. |
That's such an alarming but beautifully composed post  |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:06 - Jan 10 with 1548 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:45 - Jan 10 by soupytwist |
We saw that with Stanley Johnson for reasons that were never entirely clear to me. |
Stanley Johnson was a former European Commissioner, MEP and Parliamentary candidate, so more understandable than giving Musk's old man any airtime. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:16 - Jan 10 with 1506 views | BasingstokeBlue |
What does the article say? |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:26 - Jan 10 with 1484 views | Benters |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:47 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
All of you are missing the bigger picture here... Musk may be a d1ck but he's a powerful d1ck and has the ear of Donald Trump. You know, the guy who is about to become US president? If he's got a beef with our govt, it certainly isn't going to be good for UK-US relations particularly in terms of much needed new trade deals. Our economy is already struggling and being EU outcasts means we rely much more on the US for favourable trade deals. I imagine Sir Knifealot Mayor of London will get involved in more spats with Trump also to further fan the flames. At least Trump like Boris. He certainly isn't going to see Kier Starmer in the same light. I dont see good relations with the US during the next Trump administration. |
Spot on bud this lot haven’t got a bloody clue! |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:26 - Jan 10 with 1481 views | Zx1988 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:16 - Jan 10 by BasingstokeBlue |
What does the article say? |
You should be able to access it via most paywall-avoidance methods.
However, some selected quotes:
"Musk, the world’s richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said."
"Musk has sought information about whether it might be possible to build support for alternative British political movements — notably the rightwing populist Reform UK party — to force a change of prime minister before the next election, according to associates."
"Matt Goodwin, a rightwing political commentator, said Musk — and other Americans — had become “fascinated” by the grooming gangs scandal in the UK over the past week in part because “it’s so horrific”.
But he said he also believed it was because Musk has “an instinctive distrust of the Labour government and Keir Starmer”."
"Musk has been examining possible candidates to replace Farage as leader of the party, including Reform UK MP Rupert Lowe, and has probed what mechanisms there are to replace him, according to people briefed on his thinking." | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:28 - Jan 10 with 1480 views | DanTheMan |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:16 - Jan 10 by BasingstokeBlue |
What does the article say? |
Summary is:
- Musk wants to know how to force an early election by using a right-wing party
- Possibly looking at replacing Farage with someone a bit more compliant
- Stuff we already know, doesn't like Starmer, obsessed with the grooming gangs story |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:40 - Jan 10 with 1440 views | itfcjoe |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:31 - Jan 10 by ElderGrizzly |
News channels over here giving his Dad airtime to say similar things is even worse. |
"His Mum's from Liverpool, she was friends with lots of the Beatles" |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:41 - Jan 10 with 1440 views | DJR |
For me, the real no-no when it comes to Musk is his support for the AfD, a far right organisation with neo-Nazi links.
To take just a few examples.
In 2017, ten AfD Bundestag members were found to have participated in a closed Facebook group named "the Patriots" in which, among other things, antisemitic, racist, pro-Nazi and conspiratorial posts were widespread.
A study commissioned by the American Jewish Committee in 2021 came to the conclusion that antisemitism belongs to the "programmatic core" of the AfD. According to the study, the party conducts "targeted campaigns" against Jewish celebrities. The study's author, Professor Lars Renmann, stated that "despite some lip service to the contrary, hostility towards Israel, Holocaust relativization, antisemitic conspiracy thinking and anti-Jewish images occupy a prominent place" in the AfD.
In January 2024, it was revealed that senior members of the party, including Roland Hartwig, then advisor to party co-leader Alice Weidel, attended a meeting alongside neo-Nazi influencers, where plans for the deportation of millions of "asylum seekers", "non-assimilated people", and those with "non-German backgrounds" were discussed, including those with German citizenship and residency rights. |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:43 - Jan 10 with 1427 views | itfcjoe |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:37 - Jan 10 by Zx1988 |
It looks to have been very strongly lawyered as well.
No specific allegations at all - just a few observations which invite the reader to draw their own conclusions.
It seems that the billionaire crybaby is very touchy about being called out for cheating at video games. |
The 'Free Speech Champions' don't actually like free speech if it is anything they disagree with | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:49 - Jan 10 with 1391 views | DJR |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:43 - Jan 10 by itfcjoe |
The 'Free Speech Champions' don't actually like free speech if it is anything they disagree with |
People such as Musk are also happy with the closing down of social media rivals.
How the hell is Western security put in jeopardy by a young person in Barnsley dancing on Tik Tok to a pop song? [Post edited 10 Jan 12:49]
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:51 - Jan 10 with 1378 views | eireblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:47 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
All of you are missing the bigger picture here... Musk may be a d1ck but he's a powerful d1ck and has the ear of Donald Trump. You know, the guy who is about to become US president? If he's got a beef with our govt, it certainly isn't going to be good for UK-US relations particularly in terms of much needed new trade deals. Our economy is already struggling and being EU outcasts means we rely much more on the US for favourable trade deals. I imagine Sir Knifealot Mayor of London will get involved in more spats with Trump also to further fan the flames. At least Trump like Boris. He certainly isn't going to see Kier Starmer in the same light. I dont see good relations with the US during the next Trump administration. |
I think all US presidents, tend to do what’s best for the US, first and foremost.
I don’t think any US president would do a deal that on balance helps the U.K., but has a negative impact on a section of US voters.
Trump would do a deal with anyone, as long as it is favourable to him. |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:53 - Jan 10 with 1373 views | baxterbasics |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:26 - Jan 10 by Zx1988 |
You should be able to access it via most paywall-avoidance methods.
However, some selected quotes:
"Musk, the world’s richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said."
"Musk has sought information about whether it might be possible to build support for alternative British political movements — notably the rightwing populist Reform UK party — to force a change of prime minister before the next election, according to associates."
"Matt Goodwin, a rightwing political commentator, said Musk — and other Americans — had become “fascinated” by the grooming gangs scandal in the UK over the past week in part because “it’s so horrific”.
But he said he also believed it was because Musk has “an instinctive distrust of the Labour government and Keir Starmer”."
"Musk has been examining possible candidates to replace Farage as leader of the party, including Reform UK MP Rupert Lowe, and has probed what mechanisms there are to replace him, according to people briefed on his thinking." |
Musk really needs a primer on how the British constitution works.
The only way to oust Starmer between elections is if his own MPs and party demands it.
Labour leader election rules make this difficult most of the time.
Even if they do, whoever replaces him is going to be another Labour MP.
There is the route of forcing a vote of no confidence in the government which could lead to an election, but still this would rely on Labour MPs voting for it in numbers.
Aside from using his money and platform to influence support for his chosen alternative among the voters when an election does finally come, I don't see how he expects this to play out. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:54 - Jan 10 with 1361 views | Zx1988 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:53 - Jan 10 by baxterbasics |
Musk really needs a primer on how the British constitution works.
The only way to oust Starmer between elections is if his own MPs and party demands it.
Labour leader election rules make this difficult most of the time.
Even if they do, whoever replaces him is going to be another Labour MP.
There is the route of forcing a vote of no confidence in the government which could lead to an election, but still this would rely on Labour MPs voting for it in numbers.
Aside from using his money and platform to influence support for his chosen alternative among the voters when an election does finally come, I don't see how he expects this to play out. |
My feeling, and it's a scary concept, is that he might try and incite some sort of grass-roots insurrection to try and force change from the ground up? | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:55 - Jan 10 with 1365 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:26 - Jan 10 by Benters |
Spot on bud this lot haven’t got a bloody clue! |
I think we need an election buh. Get Reform or tories in so America will be our friends. Sir Trump isnt going to like dealing with Keir Stammer and Lord Knifecrime. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:58 - Jan 10 with 1330 views | SomethingBlue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:55 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I think we need an election buh. Get Reform or tories in so America will be our friends. Sir Trump isnt going to like dealing with Keir Stammer and Lord Knifecrime. |
Get licking those boots! | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:04 - Jan 10 with 1293 views | Benters |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:55 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I think we need an election buh. Get Reform or tories in so America will be our friends. Sir Trump isnt going to like dealing with Keir Stammer and Lord Knifecrime. |
No he isn’t.
God Bless America. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:10 - Jan 10 with 1245 views | leitrimblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:55 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I think we need an election buh. Get Reform or tories in so America will be our friends. Sir Trump isnt going to like dealing with Keir Stammer and Lord Knifecrime. |
You think the Tories or reform are gonna solve the 'absolutely disgraceful' issue of 14 million brits living in poverty that your so concerned about?  | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:11 - Jan 10 with 1237 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:04 - Jan 10 by Benters |
No he isn’t.
God Bless America. |
I see Trump has already been successful in securing a meeting with Putin to discuss ending the Ukraine war. Something the Biden administration couldn't achieve in 3 years. But hey, Trump=bad right? | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:12 - Jan 10 with 1223 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:10 - Jan 10 by leitrimblue |
You think the Tories or reform are gonna solve the 'absolutely disgraceful' issue of 14 million brits living in poverty that your so concerned about? |
What are Labour doing about it? Name me 3 current policies they are enacting to address poverty. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:13 - Jan 10 with 1217 views | Zx1988 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:11 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I see Trump has already been successful in securing a meeting with Putin to discuss ending the Ukraine war. Something the Biden administration couldn't achieve in 3 years. But hey, Trump=bad right? |
You'd be well advised to consider the finer details of any such agreement.
The received wisdom is that Ukraine may well have a solution imposed upon them. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:14 - Jan 10 with 1206 views | eireblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:11 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I see Trump has already been successful in securing a meeting with Putin to discuss ending the Ukraine war. Something the Biden administration couldn't achieve in 3 years. But hey, Trump=bad right? |
I would imagine he will solve it in the same way he sorted out the Taliban in Afghanistan.
America aren’t spending money on the military in Afghanistan now, so a win for Trump. | | | |
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