| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:40 - Jan 10 with 2694 views | positivity |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:37 - Jan 10 by DanTheMan |
Sanctions are working though. They've got a 20% interest rate combined with a 10% inflation rate. Food prices are getting high so his normal fans aren't having a great time of it.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/01/russias-economic-dilemmas-give-trump-import
Meanwhile, our supplying arms has kept a rather small army at a stalemate against a much bigger foe. They expected this to be all wrapped up years ago. |
imagine the wet wipes here whinging if labour had managed such an economic miracle! |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:49 - Jan 10 with 2660 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:40 - Jan 10 by Zx1988 |
But you are happy that Ukraine be told to sacrifice their sovereign territory in return for peace, right? |
Again, I didn't say that. I'd hope for a deal that involves Russia pulling out but they get some assurances about NATO expansion. Putin will want something to save face. And I don't think pulling out of Crimea should be on the table seeing as we did nothing to stop that in 2014. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:52 - Jan 10 with 2640 views | Zx1988 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:49 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
Again, I didn't say that. I'd hope for a deal that involves Russia pulling out but they get some assurances about NATO expansion. Putin will want something to save face. And I don't think pulling out of Crimea should be on the table seeing as we did nothing to stop that in 2014. |
So you *are* saying that the west should allow Russia to keep Ukrainian territory, in the form of Crimea. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:55 - Jan 10 with 2616 views | soupytwist |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:36 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
Quite. I think his only peer would be R. Smith who declared it's Friday when he's in love. |
Scandalous omission of M. Gore and his assertions that "Everything counts, in large amounts" AND that "People are people". |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:27 - Jan 10 with 2542 views | eireblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:25 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
yes but the Obama administration had already set in motion the commitment to withdrawing from Afghanistan. You think there would have been a different outcome if that had been achieved before Obama's term ended? |
So you were only wrong on two things.
It was Trumps agreement.
And it didn’t have any expectation on what the Afghan Authorities would do, since they weren’t involved.
That’s the model for success for Trump, get out as quick as possible, and stop spending money.
An opinion, mine or anyone’s, on an alternative outcome, on something that didn’t happen, doesn’t really alter what Trump did for terrorists and females in Afghanistan, of whom he cares little, which can be used as an example of what his negotiations may be like for Ukraine. |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:35 - Jan 10 with 2528 views | eireblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:04 - Jan 10 by Benters |
No he isn’t.
God Bless America. |
Please stick to that line, when British farmers, companies and workers will be getting shafted by cheap US imports, or hurt by US tariffs.
Surprising un-patriotic of you, but still, better to “own” a fellow British worker that has slightly different values than you, i.e. a “lib”, so that you can follow foreign leaders that are somewhat keen on white supremacy. | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:37 - Jan 10 with 2526 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:52 - Jan 10 by Zx1988 |
So you *are* saying that the west should allow Russia to keep Ukrainian territory, in the form of Crimea. |
Well we seemed to be OK with it before. The west did nothing when Crimea was annexed and left Ukraine to it. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:39 - Jan 10 with 2520 views | blueasfook |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:55 - Jan 10 by soupytwist |
Scandalous omission of M. Gore and his assertions that "Everything counts, in large amounts" AND that "People are people". |
Good point. Also his thesis research which led him to conclude when he was with his baby he just couldn't get enough. | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:45 - Jan 10 with 2498 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:20 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
Well let's be honest, the western policy of sanctions and supplying arms to Ukraine hasn't ended the war. Russia has enough support from the likes of China and India for its economy to remain afloat and now sells it gas and oil to them. Plus their Iranian and North Korean pals to keep them supplied with arms. An alternative strategy must be explored to end the war. |
3 years in and they haven't been given the ability to control their airspace - dropping gas has been a key part of clearing Ukrainian trenches. 3 years in and they don't have missile defense systems.
Boris Johnson was quiet clear a few months back that there were massive failing in what the leaders that followed him and now this government had committed.
How long did it take us to give storm shadows? Years. Enough time for Russia to move most things deeper into their county.
The Russian economy is spiralling. Russia keeps breaking monthly losses. They've been unable to take energy grids off-line as they have in previous winters. They couldn't support their mate in Syria and are pulling out of their bases there. Anyone concluding that Russia can sustain what they are doing right now just simply isn't engaging with the content, which includes content put out there by right wing outlets like the telegraph.
When did the right in this country become so meek? Just a few years ago the right (Boris Johnson and co) were a leading light on this. Following the US and the idea that this is some sort of left v right theatre is embarrassing.
That China, Iran, and North Korea think they can sustain war on European soil and have no consequences is insane. You think if we cave in here it stops? Capitulation and surrender is the most stupid strategy on the table.
The alternative strategy to what we are doing now is to properly support Ukraine, rather than making it fight with one arm behind its back, and announcing for months in advance when we are going to make a potentially impactful change.
Churchill would be turning in his grave if he could see how the right had become proponents of pacifism in the face of aggressive dictators. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:48 - Jan 10 with 2489 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 13:37 - Jan 10 by DanTheMan |
Sanctions are working though. They've got a 20% interest rate combined with a 10% inflation rate. Food prices are getting high so his normal fans aren't having a great time of it.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/01/russias-economic-dilemmas-give-trump-import
Meanwhile, our supplying arms has kept a rather small army at a stalemate against a much bigger foe. They expected this to be all wrapped up years ago. |
The longer it goes in the weaker Russia will be when it ends. |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:58 - Jan 10 with 2463 views | soupytwist |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:39 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
Good point. Also his thesis research which led him to conclude when he was with his baby he just couldn't get enough. |
Research that is often mistakenly attributed to Gore, but was in fact the sole work of V. Clarke.
Clarke then moved into other areas in conjunction with A.Bell, including the work leading to the conclusion that the way his baby left their clothes on the bathroom floor was not the cause of the pain inside. [Post edited 10 Jan 14:58]
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 19:11 - Jan 10 with 2301 views | baxterbasics |
Except the right-leaning vote is now split almost down the middle by Reform! Polls are looking very hung-parliament-y atm |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 23:26 - Jan 10 with 2173 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:55 - Jan 10 by blueasfook |
I think we need an election buh. Get Reform or tories in so America will be our friends. Sir Trump isnt going to like dealing with Keir Stammer and Lord Knifecrime. |
If we have to elect a leader to suit a criminal liar like Trump then we might as well give uo [Post edited 10 Jan 23:45]
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 23:30 - Jan 10 with 2168 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 14:27 - Jan 10 by eireblue |
So you were only wrong on two things.
It was Trumps agreement.
And it didn’t have any expectation on what the Afghan Authorities would do, since they weren’t involved.
That’s the model for success for Trump, get out as quick as possible, and stop spending money.
An opinion, mine or anyone’s, on an alternative outcome, on something that didn’t happen, doesn’t really alter what Trump did for terrorists and females in Afghanistan, of whom he cares little, which can be used as an example of what his negotiations may be like for Ukraine. |
He's a Trump apologist so expect that kind of thing | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 01:44 - Jan 11 with 2112 views | SWBlue22 |
He does need to be ousted. He's a disgrace. |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:20 - Jan 11 with 1977 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 01:44 - Jan 11 by SWBlue22 |
He does need to be ousted. He's a disgrace. |
So what are you suggesting?
A PLP rebellion to replace Starmer with an alternative from within their ranks?
Or armed insurrection?
Or something in between? |  |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 09:37 - Jan 11 with 1949 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 01:44 - Jan 11 by SWBlue22 |
He does need to be ousted. He's a disgrace. |
Please specify three genuinely "disgraceful" things, as opposed to political disagreements you may have. | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:13 - Jan 11 with 1890 views | SomethingBlue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 01:44 - Jan 11 by SWBlue22 |
He does need to be ousted. He's a disgrace. |
What's he done? Or rather: what have the right-wing media told you he's done? | |
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| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:22 - Jan 11 with 1872 views | leitrimblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:13 - Jan 11 by SomethingBlue |
What's he done? Or rather: what have the right-wing media told you he's done? |
Has he transformed a party set up in order to represent the poorest and weakest in society into a p1ss poor version of the morally defunct Tories?
Therefore leaving the poorest in society completely unrepresented in UK politics and leaving an enormous vacuum where the even more morally defunct Reform party and their elite public school boy leader ( man of the people) can step in? |  | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:27 - Jan 11 with 1857 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:22 - Jan 11 by leitrimblue |
Has he transformed a party set up in order to represent the poorest and weakest in society into a p1ss poor version of the morally defunct Tories?
Therefore leaving the poorest in society completely unrepresented in UK politics and leaving an enormous vacuum where the even more morally defunct Reform party and their elite public school boy leader ( man of the people) can step in? |
Whilst putting money into public services? | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:31 - Jan 11 with 1849 views | leitrimblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:27 - Jan 11 by redrickstuhaart |
Whilst putting money into public services? |
Thanks boss, your the best. Can you pat our little heads and tell us we've been good as well? 
I'm not suggesting all Labour types are completely ignorant of the wants and needs of the working classes but... | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:34 - Jan 11 with 1843 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:31 - Jan 11 by leitrimblue |
Thanks boss, your the best. Can you pat our little heads and tell us we've been good as well?
I'm not suggesting all Labour types are completely ignorant of the wants and needs of the working classes but... |
What?
To slate a governement, less than six months old, stuck with a desperate fiscal situation and crumbling public services, with the tired old "they're all the same" line, is pretty weak tbh. | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:54 - Jan 11 with 1817 views | leitrimblue |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 11:34 - Jan 11 by redrickstuhaart |
What?
To slate a governement, less than six months old, stuck with a desperate fiscal situation and crumbling public services, with the tired old "they're all the same" line, is pretty weak tbh. |
Ok, so perhaps I will wait 18 months .
Perhaps a party that campaigned on nothing much more then being a bit like the Tories but with less incompetence is suddenly gonna start dealing with the enormous wealth inbalance and the 14 million living in poverty. You never know.. | | | |
| Musk wanting to oust Starmer on 12:36 - Jan 13 with 1517 views | Europablue |
He's very much in the mold of Trump. He spouts a load of nonsense, but in amongst the noise are nuggets of information. It is amazing that it took a famous and influential foreigner to bring the concept of a grooming gang inquiry into the mainstream. A lot of people including myself strongly desire an inquiry because there clearly were some awful failures from the police in particular. The Conservatives jut tried to ignore it and now Labour is trying to ignore it.
On the flip side, there is the issue of foreign interference, but I think saying that a leader is awful and highlights the flaws of a foreign leader is fair game (plenty of British people have a public opinion on Donald Trump). The Labour Party's involvement in the US election and the potential of Musk funding Reform is potentially concerning. | | | |
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