| Have we given up on a striker? 19:01 - Jan 30 with 5585 views | gsoly |
Lots of talk on here and around the fanbase about a striker still being top of our list, but it feels to me like McKenna/Ashton have admitted defeat.
Using our final PL loan spot on Enciso then McKenna referencing his ability to play as a false nine suggests that game is up. We've also let Ali leave a week ago, and still nobody is in or seemingly close to being so.
It's a risk: we remain an injury away from a very sticky situation. But perhaps the player we need just doesn't exist, with the limitations we now face?
The pot must be running dry, for one. And even if we could drop £20m on a Latte-Lath, why would he come knowing he's fighting with Hirst to be the back-up? Same goes for any striker in that £15-20m ballpark. They'll want to be number one.
All that leaves is a foreign loan, but why would a club loan a player knowing they'll get limited game time? Unless they want their wages off the books... And then it's a big wage investment for us, into a back-up player. Not exactly ideal.
Been running it round and I just don't think it's a deal we can do now, unless Hirst/Delap pick up a serious injury on Saturday. Christ almighty I hope that doesn't happen. |  | | |  |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:19 - Jan 30 with 4569 views | Dennyx4 |
I think somebody posted on here, earlier in the week, that Philogene has been training as a false nine. If that is true, definitely can’t see us getting another striker.
I do think Delap will get a 2 game suspension at some stage, so we are going to need to be able to have a 3rd option up top. |  | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:26 - Jan 30 with 4480 views | Ryorry |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:19 - Jan 30 by Dennyx4 |
I think somebody posted on here, earlier in the week, that Philogene has been training as a false nine. If that is true, definitely can’t see us getting another striker.
I do think Delap will get a 2 game suspension at some stage, so we are going to need to be able to have a 3rd option up top. |
We signed that 17 year old (sorry, can't remember his name) recently who'd been prolific for his former team (So'ton?).
If they're good enough ... |  |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:28 - Jan 30 with 4438 views | Dennyx4 |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:26 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
We signed that 17 year old (sorry, can't remember his name) recently who'd been prolific for his former team (So'ton?).
If they're good enough ... |
Didn’t Southampton release him? Or did we pay a fee for him? | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:29 - Jan 30 with 4425 views | cressi |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:26 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
We signed that 17 year old (sorry, can't remember his name) recently who'd been prolific for his former team (So'ton?).
If they're good enough ... |
If we don't sign anyone it's incompetent management as what happened in the summer spent weeks chasing a player who is never fit in Broja we will see. |  | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:32 - Jan 30 with 4366 views | SheffordBlue |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:28 - Jan 30 by Dennyx4 |
Didn’t Southampton release him? Or did we pay a fee for him? |
If it's Josh Pitts you're thinking about then at Southampton he was only playing at U18 level so seems much more likely to be a longer term development option than someone who might be playing/training with the first team. He hadn't made a senior appearance for Southampton as far as I can see. | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:36 - Jan 30 with 4318 views | Dennyx4 |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:32 - Jan 30 by SheffordBlue |
If it's Josh Pitts you're thinking about then at Southampton he was only playing at U18 level so seems much more likely to be a longer term development option than someone who might be playing/training with the first team. He hadn't made a senior appearance for Southampton as far as I can see. |
That’s the chap, was he released by Southampton or did we entice him here? | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:39 - Jan 30 with 4253 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:32 - Jan 30 by SheffordBlue |
If it's Josh Pitts you're thinking about then at Southampton he was only playing at U18 level so seems much more likely to be a longer term development option than someone who might be playing/training with the first team. He hadn't made a senior appearance for Southampton as far as I can see. |
It would be inverse banter in the extreme if we bring him on Saturday and he scores the winner.
I think Saints web would self combust. |  |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:40 - Jan 30 with 4250 views | SheffordBlue |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:36 - Jan 30 by Dennyx4 |
That’s the chap, was he released by Southampton or did we entice him here? |
Think we enticed him - at that level fees don' t tend to get disclosed and it might just be that we offered him better terms/a better pathway | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:42 - Jan 30 with 4214 views | Ryorry |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:39 - Jan 30 by gainsboroughblue |
It would be inverse banter in the extreme if we bring him on Saturday and he scores the winner.
I think Saints web would self combust. |
I was fantasizing about something along those lines  | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:44 - Jan 30 with 4187 views | Ryorry |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:32 - Jan 30 by SheffordBlue |
If it's Josh Pitts you're thinking about then at Southampton he was only playing at U18 level so seems much more likely to be a longer term development option than someone who might be playing/training with the first team. He hadn't made a senior appearance for Southampton as far as I can see. |
Yes, that's the one, cheers. Hasn't been listed in the teams yet on the club website. | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:50 - Jan 30 with 4136 views | PhilTWTD |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:32 - Jan 30 by SheffordBlue |
If it's Josh Pitts you're thinking about then at Southampton he was only playing at U18 level so seems much more likely to be a longer term development option than someone who might be playing/training with the first team. He hadn't made a senior appearance for Southampton as far as I can see. |
Think he was being released at the end of his scholarship. Came on for the U21s the other afternoon, which had a lot of U18s involved as so many regular U21s have gone out on loan. |  | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:51 - Jan 30 with 4100 views | football |
I overheard someone at the game the L'pool game who knew some of the players who said we do have a striker but could't say who...He seemed legit, but who knows. These things often go to the wire | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:58 - Jan 30 with 3874 views | Ryorry |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:51 - Jan 30 by football |
I overheard someone at the game the L'pool game who knew some of the players who said we do have a striker but could't say who...He seemed legit, but who knows. These things often go to the wire |
Was also thinking that given our recent history, MA & co. could be keeping cards very close to their chests, & could be in the last hour of the last day of window that we get a nice surprise 🤞🏼 | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:12 - Jan 30 with 3330 views | berkstractorboy |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:29 - Jan 30 by cressi |
If we don't sign anyone it's incompetent management as what happened in the summer spent weeks chasing a player who is never fit in Broja we will see. |
Incompetent management? I don't think that's an accusation you can label at MA and Co. I think you can trust they have been looking, maybe not as wide a scouting network as some but that network doesn't magic itself overnight when you join the PL. Thank Evans for the backward steps he took us.
It's pointless going over all the valid reasons why its been hard for us as I think none of those will wash for you as you aren't getting what you want. Many other clubs in England are struggling to find that No. 9 all teams are craving. [Post edited 30 Jan 22:57]
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:35 - Jan 30 with 3182 views | bsw72 |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 19:29 - Jan 30 by cressi |
If we don't sign anyone it's incompetent management as what happened in the summer spent weeks chasing a player who is never fit in Broja we will see. |
Eh? |  | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:38 - Jan 30 with 3152 views | pointofblue |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:12 - Jan 30 by berkstractorboy |
Incompetent management? I don't think that's an accusation you can label at MA and Co. I think you can trust they have been looking, maybe not as wide a scouting network as some but that network doesn't magic itself overnight when you join the PL. Thank Evans for the backward steps he took us.
It's pointless going over all the valid reasons why its been hard for us as I think none of those will wash for you as you aren't getting what you want. Many other clubs in England are struggling to find that No. 9 all teams are craving. [Post edited 30 Jan 22:57]
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I'd say it's a valid criticism - not necessarily for January, as it's such a difficult window to get something done, but a third striker should have been signed in August. The procrastination with Broja cost us badly. | |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:52 - Jan 30 with 3034 views | cressi |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:38 - Jan 30 by pointofblue |
I'd say it's a valid criticism - not necessarily for January, as it's such a difficult window to get something done, but a third striker should have been signed in August. The procrastination with Broja cost us badly. |
Just my view we seem to be good at getting players in who are much of a mucher in what we have already in the building. We knew the situation in June regarding strikers. And we are at the present probably in a worse position centre forward wise. | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:01 - Jan 30 with 2948 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
There are FOUR full days of the window left.
Just because you don't know of anything close doesn't mean nothing's happening.
There's no evidence "The pot must be running dry". |  |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:14 - Jan 30 with 2852 views | gsoly |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:01 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There are FOUR full days of the window left.
Just because you don't know of anything close doesn't mean nothing's happening.
There's no evidence "The pot must be running dry". |
For sure no evidence but I can’t see how another £20m+ signing is sensible. | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:17 - Jan 30 with 2838 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:38 - Jan 30 by pointofblue |
I'd say it's a valid criticism - not necessarily for January, as it's such a difficult window to get something done, but a third striker should have been signed in August. The procrastination with Broja cost us badly. |
I think the procrastination over Broja has been shown to be good management of a difficult situation. Seems to be injury prone. Hardly what we need. |  |
| Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:33 - Jan 30 with 2739 views | Bramidan |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:17 - Jan 30 by IndependentlyBlue |
I think the procrastination over Broja has been shown to be good management of a difficult situation. Seems to be injury prone. Hardly what we need. |
If we had got Broja would he be fit to play? No and then people would be saying what a waste of money etc etc.
If we are not making chances why would having the most expensive striker do us any good.
Other than Burns we don’t seem to have anybody who is prepared to put in early crosses, even Davies seems to cut inside and pass back or sideways. | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:57 - Jan 30 with 2635 views | Guthrum |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:14 - Jan 30 by gsoly |
For sure no evidence but I can’t see how another £20m+ signing is sensible. |
You say sendible, but in what way? If it keeps us in the Prem, it's a marvellous bargain.
Plus, in any case, the fee will be stretched out over four seasons at £5m a year for PSR accounting purposes. |  |
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| Have we given up on a striker? on 23:00 - Jan 30 with 2603 views | berkstractorboy |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 21:38 - Jan 30 by pointofblue |
I'd say it's a valid criticism - not necessarily for January, as it's such a difficult window to get something done, but a third striker should have been signed in August. The procrastination with Broja cost us badly. |
Valid criticism I accept but the poster said incompetent management which I wholly disagree with. The 2 are different. | | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 23:24 - Jan 30 with 2434 views | Horsham |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 22:57 - Jan 30 by Guthrum |
You say sendible, but in what way? If it keeps us in the Prem, it's a marvellous bargain.
Plus, in any case, the fee will be stretched out over four seasons at £5m a year for PSR accounting purposes. |
I’m certainly no Swiss Ramble but I think and capology agrees fwiw that our wage bill is a fair bit lower than most prem clubs and while we’ve gone pretty big on fees it’s not that significant when comparing like for like over PSR reference periods so suspect our PSR headroom should we stay up is still very considerable, and if we go down it’s not disastrously bad either. |  | | |
| Have we given up on a striker? on 07:02 - Jan 31 with 2064 views | tcblue |
At this point I'd rather we went all in on improving our CM options with a proper first XI-er.
That seems to be where we get overrun, and it also seems to be where the link up play doesn't link up.
Add to that the market for strikers seems very light, and that we have reports of false 9 training, suggests to me that maybe new formations also might be being considered, and maybe we'll go three in centre mid. | | | |
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