| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. 17:09 - Feb 1 with 9020 views | ITFC_84 |
Should’ve just kept with the old guard and pocketed the £150m |  | | |  |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:40 - Feb 1 with 1417 views | ITFCSG |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:28 - Feb 1 by NedPlimpton |
Who from last year's side has been genuinely great in the prem?? |
None. But besides Delap aside and Cajuste / Szmodics (at times) the rest are just as sh*t. So why waste the £££? | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:41 - Feb 1 with 1405 views | StokieBlue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:33 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
Take a look at the form table. Or consider we just lost at home to the second-worst team in prem history. And didn’t create a meaningful chance in the second half. |
OK but we didn't spend 120m to go backwards from the point you are citing. We spent 20m and had a hard run.
I'm going to chalk this up to being upset post match because otherwise it's not making much sense. I can fully understand being upset.
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:45 - Feb 1 with 1366 views | NedPlimpton |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:40 - Feb 1 by ITFCSG |
None. But besides Delap aside and Cajuste / Szmodics (at times) the rest are just as sh*t. So why waste the £££? |
Erm, to give ourselves the best possible chance??
Today was a massive blow but if Wolves lose we're still 1 point away from safety, which I personally would have taken at this stage of the season
Al-Hamadi scored in the championship today, but look how completely out of depth he is in the premier league. That shows the size of the challenge our championship players face, so clearly we needed upgrading across the whole pitch! I honestly don't understand why people think that last season's squad would be performing better than we currently are |  | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:49 - Feb 1 with 1317 views | Sarge |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:45 - Feb 1 by NedPlimpton |
Erm, to give ourselves the best possible chance??
Today was a massive blow but if Wolves lose we're still 1 point away from safety, which I personally would have taken at this stage of the season
Al-Hamadi scored in the championship today, but look how completely out of depth he is in the premier league. That shows the size of the challenge our championship players face, so clearly we needed upgrading across the whole pitch! I honestly don't understand why people think that last season's squad would be performing better than we currently are |
“so clearly we needed upgrading across the whole pitch!”
This is the point. We have not done this, we’ve just thrown huge sums of money around replacing rather than upgrading. If we’re all so certain that players from a promotion winning Championship side wouldn’t be good enough why can we not grasp that players from mid table Championship teams wouldn’t be either. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:54 - Feb 1 with 1289 views | WD19 |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:28 - Feb 1 by bluebud |
Why do you call a league ladder system a pyramid? |
Taking the national league North and South stuff into account it is more of a pylon. |  | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:56 - Feb 1 with 1278 views | pointofblue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:49 - Feb 1 by Sarge |
“so clearly we needed upgrading across the whole pitch!”
This is the point. We have not done this, we’ve just thrown huge sums of money around replacing rather than upgrading. If we’re all so certain that players from a promotion winning Championship side wouldn’t be good enough why can we not grasp that players from mid table Championship teams wouldn’t be either. |
I think we have upgraded but not to the level required, permanently, aside from Delap. Today was a Championship standard game and we seemed toothless up top and vulnerable at the back, which isn't encouraging. | |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:56 - Feb 1 with 1275 views | StokieBlue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:35 - Feb 1 by Sarge |
Yes. Replaced quality like-for-like and lost all team cohesion and spirit along the way. Delap and Cajuste are the only two who have objectively improved us. |
It's simply not true that we've replaced quality like-for-like.
It's a narrative which is spun but it's not the reality of the situation.
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:45 - Feb 1 with 1191 views | Illinoisblue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:41 - Feb 1 by StokieBlue |
OK but we didn't spend 120m to go backwards from the point you are citing. We spent 20m and had a hard run.
I'm going to chalk this up to being upset post match because otherwise it's not making much sense. I can fully understand being upset.
SB |
Talking of being upset didn’t you once leave the board in a huff? |  |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:48 - Feb 1 with 1172 views | Sarge |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:56 - Feb 1 by StokieBlue |
It's simply not true that we've replaced quality like-for-like.
It's a narrative which is spun but it's not the reality of the situation.
SB |
Please explain why you believe it isn’t true. In the main we have replaced players from a Championship team that finished second with players from Championship teams that finished mid table. With the exception of Delap and Cajuste who came from Serie A, none of them have displayed any discernible increase in quality than the players who were already here. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:49 - Feb 1 with 1165 views | itfc_statman |
The recruitment has been poor and I see people blaming McKenna but ultimately we have Ashton and a recruitment department.
It's all very well recruiting top championship talent but if you don't take into account context and how they fit into a system you may as well not bother.
Most of our signings, particularly upon relegation, will have devalued.
We will have limited scope to work in the window in the summer for a Championship season - saving grace might be the lack of quality likely to be in the Champs next season. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:56 - Feb 1 with 1131 views | DarkHorse |
Our team that finished last season would beat this one. |  | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:01 - Feb 1 with 1107 views | ITFCson |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:15 - Feb 1 by ITFCSG |
Saints spent far less than us this season and managed to beat us, something they failed to do last season. MA and McK has to answer for that. I want to see what cock and bull story McK comes up with today, Man City and Liverpool we expected results, but today was simply pathetic |
What a very simplistic view. Southampton were awful today. They don’t beat us because they are a better team. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:04 - Feb 1 with 1089 views | Smoresy |
Like Luton did? That would have made for a fun 25/26. 
We haven't spent it well enough for this league but I'm confident our 'rating' has improved a good deal. My worry is if finances will allow us to use this squad at the much inferior level next season, or if we'll be stripped of all the best bits. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:09 - Feb 1 with 1043 views | NedPlimpton |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:56 - Feb 1 by DarkHorse |
Our team that finished last season would beat this one. |
Realistically there's 6 changes from our best side last year to the one that started today
Hladky for Muric
Woolf and Burgess for O'Shea and Greaves
Luongo for Cajuste
Chaplin for Enciso
Hirst for Delap
Other than Hladky I think I'm ok with the changes made | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:13 - Feb 1 with 1030 views | StokieBlue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 18:45 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
Talking of being upset didn’t you once leave the board in a huff? |
I thought you were better than this to be honest.
I've simply asked you a question and have understood that people are upset after the result so their posts might not be that well thought through hence the requests for some clarity.
Not sure why you've decided to turn it into an attack on me, I've not done anything at all, it's not a great look.
If you think I "left in a huff" I can only say you must not have been paying attention.
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:18 - Feb 1 with 991 views | swede |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:23 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
Are you saying our recruitment has been good? Delap aside who’s been great? |
Dara O'Shea | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:20 - Feb 1 with 972 views | TractorFrog |
The linear regression line gradient for number of league one players against points per game is up to 0.078. So for each league one player added to the team, the expected points per game goes up by 0.078. |  |
| They'd all laugh at me if they knew what I was trying to do. To create a new strain of super-wine in half-an-hour with a fraction of nature's resources and a FOOL for an assistant. 'Bernard Black, he's mad,' they'd say, 'he's insane, he's dangerous.' Well I'll show them! I'll show them all! | | Poll: | Who should start in CM with Cajuste? |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:20 - Feb 1 with 968 views | ITFCSG |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:56 - Feb 1 by pointofblue |
I think we have upgraded but not to the level required, permanently, aside from Delap. Today was a Championship standard game and we seemed toothless up top and vulnerable at the back, which isn't encouraging. |
Last season at home against Saints we were 2-1 down at HT, and its all guns blazing in the second half to push for the win. We went at the Saints goal wave after wave. AAH hit the post and Broadhead equalise. Today at HT it was 1-1 and yet we showed no sense of urgency to attack. If Saints were 2 or 3 down they'd capitulate. Instead it was more of the backwards and sideways passing once again like v City and Liverpool. It was almost as if the team had forgotten how to attack. | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:25 - Feb 1 with 927 views | pete81 |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:18 - Feb 1 by swede |
Dara O'Shea |
Would rather Hdlacky in goal then Muric
To be honest would rather have kayden jackson and marcus Harness coming off the bench than Clarke and philonge both so lightweight...there is £60million saved....as others have said so many changes have upset the cohesion and may well have done the team spirit from the last 3 seasons... I know its different circumstances but reminiscent in some ways to 2001-2002 season...those that have done such good work to get us where we are quickly swept aside ....a clown keeper and the team spirit and cohesive teamwork ebbing away |  | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:25 - Feb 1 with 927 views | mrshallisfit |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:35 - Feb 1 by Swoody |
I havent comented much on here over the years but my god there are some idiotic posts on here this being one of them! |
How is that idiotic? | | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:26 - Feb 1 with 915 views | pointofblue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:18 - Feb 1 by swede |
Dara O'Shea |
I don't get the adoration of O'Shea. Decent but not worth the money we paid for him. Have a feeling if he was a player who came through the academy he wouldn't be getting the same credit. | |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:26 - Feb 1 with 918 views | TractorFrog |
Our squad is stronger this year than last, but not £120 million stronger.
And the Leeds and Southampton squads last year were stronger than ours, but we still beat them. So it isn't just about having the most talented players. | |
| They'd all laugh at me if they knew what I was trying to do. To create a new strain of super-wine in half-an-hour with a fraction of nature's resources and a FOOL for an assistant. 'Bernard Black, he's mad,' they'd say, 'he's insane, he's dangerous.' Well I'll show them! I'll show them all! | | Poll: | Who should start in CM with Cajuste? |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:28 - Feb 1 with 897 views | pointofblue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:26 - Feb 1 by TractorFrog |
Our squad is stronger this year than last, but not £120 million stronger.
And the Leeds and Southampton squads last year were stronger than ours, but we still beat them. So it isn't just about having the most talented players. |
We didn't beat Leeds. We conceded eight goals across two games against them. | |
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| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:29 - Feb 1 with 892 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 17:28 - Feb 1 by NedPlimpton |
Who from last year's side has been genuinely great in the prem?? |
Davis, Walton, Broadhead, Burgess, Woolfenden, Chaplin, Tuanzebee, Morsy, Taylor have all stepped up |  | | |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:45 - Feb 1 with 825 views | Illinoisblue |
| Imagine spending £120m and being a worse team than last year. on 19:13 - Feb 1 by StokieBlue |
I thought you were better than this to be honest.
I've simply asked you a question and have understood that people are upset after the result so their posts might not be that well thought through hence the requests for some clarity.
Not sure why you've decided to turn it into an attack on me, I've not done anything at all, it's not a great look.
If you think I "left in a huff" I can only say you must not have been paying attention.
SB |
And I simply asked you a question. See how this works? | |
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