Delap to Arsenal 13:06 - Feb 3 with 5922 views | BlacknGoldnBlue | Tim Sherward on Sky Sports saying Arsenal should get Delap. Thinks £40m would get him and he'd be able to impact Arsenal now and develop under Arteta going forward to provide a sticker solution for the future. He says £40m is peanuts for Arsenal but thinks if we let him go we'd be acknowledging relegation. TO be clear.. He didn't say this was going to happen or either in discussion but he did think it would be a no brainier. |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 13:47 - Feb 3 with 1049 views | CaptainAhab |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:34 - Feb 3 by SitfcB | They will have something. Guaranteed. Philogene/Villa situation a good example. |
If it's what Villa had with Philogene then we're golden. That was a matching clause and a percentage of next sale they utilised |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:47 - Feb 3 with 1044 views | ITFCBlues |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:34 - Feb 3 by SitfcB | They will have something. Guaranteed. Philogene/Villa situation a good example. |
Probably a first refusal, like Villa which doesn't mean they dictate the fee. We wouldn't be stupid enough to take a 15-20m gamble on a striker with zero PL experience to then have to sell him back to City for almost the same price, it just wouldn't make any sense. |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 13:49 - Feb 3 with 1032 views | MattinLondon |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:41 - Feb 3 by textbackup | That’s alot of words - so you think whatever league, he gets us over £60m? Be interesting to see what happens |
Yes - with £60 million being the very bottom selling price for him |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:49 - Feb 3 with 1031 views | ITFCBlues |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:45 - Feb 3 by trent_blue | No you havn’t missed anything. Just another negative poster who refuses to believe that they have one. Clause is rumoured to be £30mil, and has been mentioned by most Manchester City linked journo’s inc Fabrizio and the Man City mouthpiece on talksport stefan something. I would assume could only be triggered from next summer but hope it doesn’t exist. Just too much chat about it to believe it’s fake news, and Ashton would have come out and confirmed if it didn’t exist. |
I thought Ashton had already said this and also said it'd take a massive offer to sell this window, which doesn't sound like City can take him for a cut price fee to me. |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 13:51 - Feb 3 with 1009 views | braveblue |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:27 - Feb 3 by SitfcB | He will be sold back to Man City for whatever they agreed in the original deal which won’t be much more than we paid. They will sell him on for massive profit. |
They must match the highest bid surely? |  | |  |
Wait and see. (n/t) on 13:52 - Feb 3 with 1008 views | Bloots |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 13:46 - Feb 3 by gsoly | There's as much proof out there that it exists as there is that it doesn't. Didn't Ashton laugh it off? And I'm sure Phil has intimated that it's more of a Philogene situation where they can essentially match a fee with a 20% discount. There is simply no way on earth any football club signs a player for £20m and puts a £30m buyback in the deal. |
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lol. (n/t) on 13:54 - Feb 3 with 986 views | Bloots |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:49 - Feb 3 by MattinLondon | Yes - with £60 million being the very bottom selling price for him |
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It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 13:59 - Feb 3 with 946 views | gsoly |
I honestly think in the modern world, one clickbait journalist suggests £30m and then it's just regurgitated around the world until it's perceived as truth. |  | |  |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 14:01 - Feb 3 with 934 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 13:46 - Feb 3 by gsoly | There's as much proof out there that it exists as there is that it doesn't. Didn't Ashton laugh it off? And I'm sure Phil has intimated that it's more of a Philogene situation where they can essentially match a fee with a 20% discount. There is simply no way on earth any football club signs a player for £20m and puts a £30m buyback in the deal. |
This is probably the most reliable 'what is understood' information we have. Other than that, it's all pure speculation (and even this is detail that is 'understood', not publicly declared by Town or City) It’s understood that the deal includes a sell-on of around 20 per cent and a buyback clause, while Delap’s former academy club Derby County will receive a sell-on percentage from the move. |  | |  |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 14:04 - Feb 3 with 901 views | gsoly |
The Forson piece is complete conjecture and even the Mail piece says this: 'According to confirmation from MailSport’s Jack Gaughan, Manchester City officials managed to insert a buy-back clause into Liam Delap’s agreement with Ipswich Town last summer, which is understood to be valued at over £30 million.' *Over* £30m. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:15 - Feb 3 with 858 views | textbackup |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:49 - Feb 3 by MattinLondon | Yes - with £60 million being the very bottom selling price for him |
Do you mind if I bookmark this? As I think you’ll be really far off |  |
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It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 14:17 - Feb 3 with 854 views | Dennyx4 |
The bottom article states a clause OVER £30m. In all honesty, I don’t think anyone knows. The article might elude to 2x what we have paid, initial fee of £15m? Both articles are probably linked, with one using the other to determine their story. According to a sky presenter that supports Aston Villa, Douglas Luiz also had a buyback clause inserted, when he left Man City, for two specific windows. In his opinion, Man City didn’t activate the deal, as they didn’t need the player, albeit they could have made a profit on him. No point worrying about something, we have no control over. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:21 - Feb 3 with 831 views | Dennyx4 |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:16 - Feb 3 by textbackup | Serious question… in the summer; if we’ve gone down, what price do you think we get for him? (My estimate £30m) If we stay up, what price do you think we get for him? (No guess as I don’t think we stay up) |
I don’t think we would sell for £30m if we have a choice. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:33 - Feb 3 with 799 views | PrideOfTheEast | I think he’ll be £50m plus unless there’s a clause with Man City that reduces that. Potentially in the England squad in March, he’ll end up with 15 goals in a relegated team, and will have multiple top sides after him. I’d say 50 is the lower end of the range but again not if city can exercise a clause at below that. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:38 - Feb 3 with 783 views | LeoMuff |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:41 - Feb 3 by textbackup | That’s alot of words - so you think whatever league, he gets us over £60m? Be interesting to see what happens |
Evan Ferguson was 20 when Man Utd were interested at £50m, and scored 6 in the premier league. I would say it would be around that area, but you could see how it could be more if he hits double figures, he could conceivably score 12-15 which when Ferguson has never scored more than 6 and valued at £50m makes you think £60m isn’t far fetched. |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 14:41 - Feb 3 with 769 views | OldFart71 | Don't think Sherward can see the wood for the trees. Your avin a larf. Nine goals for a team that can't beat an egg at the moment shows he's top class. Far too many times in the past we have allowed players to go for peanuts. I remember that lot up the A140 selling a centre back at the same time as we sold Terry Butcher an England International and we accepted less than they got for their player. We have been paying 20 million for players that are either in the Championship or are surplus to requirements by other Premier clubs. Delap is neither surplus to our requirements and is currently a Premier League player. Yes maybe surplus to Man City's requirements but they do have a certain fella called Haarland on 24 goals. An interesting bid would be 60 million plus add ons. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:56 - Feb 3 with 722 views | dirtyboy |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:15 - Feb 3 by textbackup | Do you mind if I bookmark this? As I think you’ll be really far off |
I don't think we'll be far of £50m IF he continues to perform the rest of the season, even if we do get relegated. He'd fit for Man City (yes..I think he'd be a good sub for Haaland) certainly Arsenal, even Man U could do with someone like him. Then you've got Brighton who'd probably be interested, let alone anywhere abroad. There's too many clubs that need a player like him to keep his value low. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 15:13 - Feb 3 with 681 views | MattinLondon |
Delap to Arsenal on 14:15 - Feb 3 by textbackup | Do you mind if I bookmark this? As I think you’ll be really far off |
Bookmark it if you want to. If I’m wrong then I’m wrong. |  | |  |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 15:20 - Feb 3 with 651 views | bluejacko |
It hasn't been debunked at all..... on 13:46 - Feb 3 by gsoly | There's as much proof out there that it exists as there is that it doesn't. Didn't Ashton laugh it off? And I'm sure Phil has intimated that it's more of a Philogene situation where they can essentially match a fee with a 20% discount. There is simply no way on earth any football club signs a player for £20m and puts a £30m buyback in the deal. |
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Delap to Arsenal on 15:25 - Feb 3 with 621 views | bournemouthblue |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:16 - Feb 3 by textbackup | Serious question… in the summer; if we’ve gone down, what price do you think we get for him? (My estimate £30m) If we stay up, what price do you think we get for him? (No guess as I don’t think we stay up) |
I think someone cited Lavia who went for £52 million from the Championship and this is a striker we are talking about so who really knows what the shelf is now |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 15:36 - Feb 3 with 557 views | Oldsmoker |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:13 - Feb 3 by RedX | You can’t take anything Sherwood says seriously. |
Why are there few, if any, ex-Ipswich players who want to offer their 'expertise insights' for players they've never met. Is it because they were brought up by ITFC to have standards? Former Spurs, Arsenal and Norwich talking heads have no problem spouting nonsense 'cos they are........ I won't say it 'cos I was educated in Suffolk and know not to. Classy. |  |
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Delap to Arsenal on 16:01 - Feb 3 with 491 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:27 - Feb 3 by SitfcB | He will be sold back to Man City for whatever they agreed in the original deal which won’t be much more than we paid. They will sell him on for massive profit. |
Can deals even work like this? As in he HAS to go back to Man city? We may have a deal that they pay £30 million, but Shirley we could still accept other higher offers from other clubs? Then leave Delap to decide? I know, nobody knows specifically, but can contracts implicitly prevent you from potentially moving to all other clubs bar one? Seems dodgy legal ground somehow. Maybe he'd join city anyway and then be happy being shunted straight out again to someone else but I'd have thought legally he could go anywhere for whatever deal is agreed as long as the offer from city is accepted. |  | |  |
Delap to Arsenal on 16:06 - Feb 3 with 455 views | NeedhamChris |
Delap to Arsenal on 13:31 - Feb 3 by SitfcB | Reading between the lines I think he can’t go anywhere this window even if we wanted to sell, which we don’t. At a guess whatever the clause is with Man City means they’ll get first dibs and at another guess there was a clause that meant it couldn’t be done this window. We will have effectively had him for a very expensive season long loan by the time he’s sold back to City in the summer. |
I pretty much agree with you. However, surely it'd be a very cheap loan? |  |
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