| Trump 18:06 - Feb 28 with 19937 views | backwaywhen |
Is one disgusting human being , unbelievable the way they have spoke to Zelenskyy today ….beggere belief.
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| Trump on 19:02 - Mar 1 with 2152 views | pointofblue |
Zelenskyy is meeting King Charles III tomorrow at the request of the UK government. Perhaps a shot across the bows of Trump. | |
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| Trump on 19:05 - Mar 1 with 2142 views | J2BLUE |
| Trump on 19:02 - Mar 1 by pointofblue |
Zelenskyy is meeting King Charles III tomorrow at the request of the UK government. Perhaps a shot across the bows of Trump. |
Thanks for saying which King Charles. I'd have assumed you meant the first one  |  |
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| Trump on 19:08 - Mar 1 with 2122 views | pointofblue |
| Trump on 19:05 - Mar 1 by J2BLUE |
Thanks for saying which King Charles. I'd have assumed you meant the first one |
 If Trump had any say, Zelenskyy would have probably been taken to a tomb instead. | |
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| Trump on 19:20 - Mar 1 with 2092 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump on 19:04 - Mar 1 by Churchman |
Churchill did it with his ‘Sirensuit’. A self designed romper suit with military pockets. He liked to be comfortable and being Winston, did what he wished.
The tools that mocked Zelensky? I presume Musk will be getting an earful. Anyone telling him wearing a baseball cap indoors is rude and a coat thing inappropriate in the hallowed Oval Office? I wonder if they ever got the stains out of the carpet? |
Yeah, that’s what the photo was but I copied the wrong link. Look at him “disrespecting” the Oval Office. |  |
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| Trump on 19:37 - Mar 1 with 2032 views | Churchman |
Interesting seeing the reactions listed in The Guardian. The one to note is
‘The White House deputy chief of staff for policy, Stephen Miller, called out what he termed Zelenskyy’s “impertinence” and described the showdown as “one of the great moments in the history of American diplomacy”.
“Millions of American hearts swelled with overflowing pride today to watch President Trump put Zelenskyy in his place,” Miller said, without elaborating on what public opinion information he had to justify that belief.’
An interesting take. |  | | |
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| Trump on 20:37 - Mar 1 with 1971 views | Eireannach_gorm |
What a shame neither of these happened ( particularly the latter one ).
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| Trump on 20:53 - Mar 1 with 1943 views | Ryorry |
| Trump on 19:37 - Mar 1 by Churchman |
Interesting seeing the reactions listed in The Guardian. The one to note is
‘The White House deputy chief of staff for policy, Stephen Miller, called out what he termed Zelenskyy’s “impertinence” and described the showdown as “one of the great moments in the history of American diplomacy”.
“Millions of American hearts swelled with overflowing pride today to watch President Trump put Zelenskyy in his place,” Miller said, without elaborating on what public opinion information he had to justify that belief.’
An interesting take. |
The reaction from Americans that I’ve seen on X has been almost exclusively large numbers of them saying how embarrassed, ashamed and upset they are at T.rump and Vance’s behaviour.
Would be good if the outcome was millions of former DT voters turning. |  |
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| Trump on 21:45 - Mar 1 with 1780 views | pointofblue |
An interesting additional article from The Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/01/trump-officials-zelenskyy
"Trump saw the minerals deal as the first phase of a broader economic partnership and told aides it showed the US was effectively making a commitment on security guarantees, because the agreement deal would mean the US had a vested interest in Ukraine’s economic prosperity.
The officials believed that had all been communicated to Ukraine, as was the advice that senators gave Zelenskyy on Friday morning to praise Trump and not litigate the issue of wanting stronger security guarantees to his face.
To Trump’s aides, Zelenskyy did not heed that advice when he expressed skepticism at JD Vance’s view of making peace with Russia and, in their view, lectured the US vice-president on the history of Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine that started in 2014 with the annexation of Crimea." | |
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| Trump on 22:30 - Mar 1 with 1714 views | J2BLUE |
| Trump on 21:45 - Mar 1 by pointofblue |
An interesting additional article from The Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/01/trump-officials-zelenskyy
"Trump saw the minerals deal as the first phase of a broader economic partnership and told aides it showed the US was effectively making a commitment on security guarantees, because the agreement deal would mean the US had a vested interest in Ukraine’s economic prosperity.
The officials believed that had all been communicated to Ukraine, as was the advice that senators gave Zelenskyy on Friday morning to praise Trump and not litigate the issue of wanting stronger security guarantees to his face.
To Trump’s aides, Zelenskyy did not heed that advice when he expressed skepticism at JD Vance’s view of making peace with Russia and, in their view, lectured the US vice-president on the history of Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine that started in 2014 with the annexation of Crimea." |
Zelenskyy clearly wanted to get his point across just how horrific it is on the ground and how much his people are suffering. He almost launched straight into showing Trump the pictures who couldn't have been less interested.
The whole thing was a set up. Advising him to wear a suit knowing the reasons why he wouldn't and then using it against him. The most powerful country on Earth offended over clothing. It's pathetic. It was no coincidence that journalist asked that question. He's dating that bitch Greene.
Vance is an intellectual lightweight and he knows it. He said to both Starmer and Zelenskyy that they would talk later when they challenged him. He didn't want to do it in front of the cameras and be exposed.
As for Trump, he was offended about the suit but said good response to Zelenskyy when he answered the question. He's a two faced coward.
Surely no one believes security guarantees would have come from Trump after the deal was signed? He said it was 2% of the problem so why not include something more meaningful? We all know why. Russia could advance but promise not to interfere with the US minerals or American workers and Trump would abandon Ukraine. | |
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| Trump on 23:35 - Mar 1 with 1598 views | Churchman |
| Trump on 21:45 - Mar 1 by pointofblue |
An interesting additional article from The Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/01/trump-officials-zelenskyy
"Trump saw the minerals deal as the first phase of a broader economic partnership and told aides it showed the US was effectively making a commitment on security guarantees, because the agreement deal would mean the US had a vested interest in Ukraine’s economic prosperity.
The officials believed that had all been communicated to Ukraine, as was the advice that senators gave Zelenskyy on Friday morning to praise Trump and not litigate the issue of wanting stronger security guarantees to his face.
To Trump’s aides, Zelenskyy did not heed that advice when he expressed skepticism at JD Vance’s view of making peace with Russia and, in their view, lectured the US vice-president on the history of Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine that started in 2014 with the annexation of Crimea." |
Trump saw a minerals deal as the only phase. There was never any economic partnership. The idea was take the assets that he’d already agreed to split with his mate Putin (what else did they talk about) and let Ukraine think that the presence of the odd American there with a clipboard to ensure the Ukrainians were digging hard would deter Putin. That’s no guarantee of any kind. It’s extortion.
In terms of agreement with people like this, Hitler agreed in 1938 that upon annexing the Sudetenland, Germany would hold no further territorial claims upon Czechoslovakia and would enter into a collective agreement to guarantee the borders of Germany and Czechoslovakia. Putin did the same when Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons. Words. They just want the dollars. Billions of them far in excess of what they have gifted or loaned.
According to a republican the way Trump operates is that he plays President smiles touchy-feely while Vance actually expresses what Trump and he truly feel. They loathe Zelenski and view Ukraine and its people as nothing. Not entitled to a country or anything else. Putin’s views.
With regard to Starmer he is detested too, especially by Vance and the old hatreds to the U.K. are there beneath the flattery guff. He was deliberately rude to Starmer who didn’t take the bait. Vance will be doing any trade negotiations with the U.K. He wants punitive tariffs imposed and any ‘deal’ will be extortion. Your path is clear Starmer. Break as soon as is feasible with the US.
State visit? For the press bit I’d have a person there to ask if it isn’t a bit rude to be wearing make up in Number 10. I’d also put a saucer of milk down for the toupee and ask Trump for an apology and refund for all the money, secrets, intel and assets they stole from this country from 1940 onwards.
Then I’d kick him out.
Edit: not sure a career in politics would have suited me. [Post edited 2 Mar 0:05]
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| Trump on 23:49 - Mar 1 with 1560 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump on 20:53 - Mar 1 by Ryorry |
The reaction from Americans that I’ve seen on X has been almost exclusively large numbers of them saying how embarrassed, ashamed and upset they are at T.rump and Vance’s behaviour.
Would be good if the outcome was millions of former DT voters turning. |
Apparently Vance went on holiday today, but protestors lined the road to his ski resort and he ended up having to switch resorts. I *think* it was in Vermont, so no surprise if that’s the case. There’ll be a lot of no-nonsense younger liberals in that part of the States I expect. | |
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| Trump on 07:05 - Mar 2 with 1432 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump on 19:37 - Mar 1 by Churchman |
Interesting seeing the reactions listed in The Guardian. The one to note is
‘The White House deputy chief of staff for policy, Stephen Miller, called out what he termed Zelenskyy’s “impertinence” and described the showdown as “one of the great moments in the history of American diplomacy”.
“Millions of American hearts swelled with overflowing pride today to watch President Trump put Zelenskyy in his place,” Miller said, without elaborating on what public opinion information he had to justify that belief.’
An interesting take. |
Stephen Miller is one of the creepiest people I've ever seen. Reminds me of Quint's speech in Jaws and the shark's dead eyes like a doll. | | | |
| Trump on 07:51 - Mar 2 with 1369 views | Churchman |
| Trump on 07:05 - Mar 2 by iamatractorboy |
Stephen Miller is one of the creepiest people I've ever seen. Reminds me of Quint's speech in Jaws and the shark's dead eyes like a doll. |
A lot of Republicans seem to have that puffy dead eyed look. Add in a bit of righteousness and that oh so appealing sweat sheen and you’re in.
Attached is a critical article on Vance published in Guardian in July. It’s by somebody who was brought up in the same region as him and is centred around his ‘memoirs’ book and him. It says an awful lot about why this odious grifter is as he is.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/16/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy | | | |
| Trump on 08:06 - Mar 2 with 1343 views | DJR |
| Trump on 07:51 - Mar 2 by Churchman |
A lot of Republicans seem to have that puffy dead eyed look. Add in a bit of righteousness and that oh so appealing sweat sheen and you’re in.
Attached is a critical article on Vance published in Guardian in July. It’s by somebody who was brought up in the same region as him and is centred around his ‘memoirs’ book and him. It says an awful lot about why this odious grifter is as he is.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/16/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy |
Interesting snippet from today's Guardian.
Vance cut into Zelenskyy with opprobrium that would have been objectively harsh for an adversary, much less for a putative ally. He appeared to interpret Zelenskyy’s remarks to him as an insult to the US.
But the fury with which Vance castigated Zelenskyy for being ungrateful appears to have been the moment when Vance and his team’s personal views about the Ukraine conflict came to the fore.
On Thursday, when the prospect of completing the minerals deal was considered more of a probability, Trump had played down his comment calling Zelenskyy a dictator last week. “Did I say that? I can’t believe I said that. Next question,” Trump told reporters.
That brief moment of levity masked the reality that Trump had workshopped the “dictator” post on Truth Social with Vance before it was sent out last week, according to two people briefed on the matter.
Vance had settled on the insult on the basis that Zelenskyy had suspended elections, the two people said, apparently ignoring the fact that Ukraine’s constitution decrees that elections cannot be held during a period of martial law, like the one Zelenskyy declared when Russia launched its full-scale invasion in 2022. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:32 - Mar 2 with 1267 views | Churchman |
| Trump on 08:06 - Mar 2 by DJR |
Interesting snippet from today's Guardian.
Vance cut into Zelenskyy with opprobrium that would have been objectively harsh for an adversary, much less for a putative ally. He appeared to interpret Zelenskyy’s remarks to him as an insult to the US.
But the fury with which Vance castigated Zelenskyy for being ungrateful appears to have been the moment when Vance and his team’s personal views about the Ukraine conflict came to the fore.
On Thursday, when the prospect of completing the minerals deal was considered more of a probability, Trump had played down his comment calling Zelenskyy a dictator last week. “Did I say that? I can’t believe I said that. Next question,” Trump told reporters.
That brief moment of levity masked the reality that Trump had workshopped the “dictator” post on Truth Social with Vance before it was sent out last week, according to two people briefed on the matter.
Vance had settled on the insult on the basis that Zelenskyy had suspended elections, the two people said, apparently ignoring the fact that Ukraine’s constitution decrees that elections cannot be held during a period of martial law, like the one Zelenskyy declared when Russia launched its full-scale invasion in 2022. |
Even if it wasn’t in the constitution, it’d be a little difficult to hold an election with 20% of the country stolen, huge numbers displaced and the population bombarded on a daily basis. They used that rubbish as a stick to beat him with along with the peculiar ingratitude line. All because he wasn’t on his knees with joy at being robbed and humiliated.
I’ve tried to see what was insulting towards the US and I cannot spot it. Mr Bowman (Vance’s real name) would have used that line regardless of anything Zelensky said because the objective was to crush and ridicule. Nor was he rude.
Medvedev said after Friday ‘For the first time, Trump spoke the truth to the cocaine clown's face. The insolent pig has finally received a solid slap in the face’. They’ll be plenty of back slapping over Vodka and McDonalds when the best mates meet up. They’ll be rolling in the aisles. Maybe Putin will give them all a good laugh and describe how they got rid of Navalny. The Americans will love it.
Zelensky is a very brave man who deserved respect. He deserved respect for the last three years and for the post he holds. But they showed him none of that. Their sneering ignorant bullying attempt said everything about them. The dictator line? Well, they believe it because their mate told them. | | | |
| Trump on 08:39 - Mar 2 with 1234 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump on 07:51 - Mar 2 by Churchman |
A lot of Republicans seem to have that puffy dead eyed look. Add in a bit of righteousness and that oh so appealing sweat sheen and you’re in.
Attached is a critical article on Vance published in Guardian in July. It’s by somebody who was brought up in the same region as him and is centred around his ‘memoirs’ book and him. It says an awful lot about why this odious grifter is as he is.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/16/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy |
I wouldn't usually criticise or judge someone for their looks, of course, it's just that the eyes betray the complete lack of emotion or empathy behind them. | | | |
| Trump on 08:45 - Mar 2 with 1212 views | bluelagos |
Just to share a first hand message from a sibling who is hosting a Ukrainian refugee.
"X was in tears yesterday saying that all the people she knows who have died, was it all for nothing?" |  |
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| Trump on 08:45 - Mar 2 with 1203 views | Churchman |
| Trump on 08:39 - Mar 2 by iamatractorboy |
I wouldn't usually criticise or judge someone for their looks, of course, it's just that the eyes betray the complete lack of emotion or empathy behind them. |
Me neither, given what I see when I look in the mirror. Aaaargh! But you are right about the eyes. | | | |
| Trump on 08:47 - Mar 2 with 1199 views | CBBlue |
| Trump on 23:49 - Mar 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Apparently Vance went on holiday today, but protestors lined the road to his ski resort and he ended up having to switch resorts. I *think* it was in Vermont, so no surprise if that’s the case. There’ll be a lot of no-nonsense younger liberals in that part of the States I expect. |
Yep, an American friend who lives and holidays out that way posted about that on Facebook yesterday. He wanted to show there is opposition and he's highly embarrassed being an American at the moment.
As for Miller's statement that 'Millions of American hearts swelled with overflowing pride...' that honestly sounds like the kind of propaganda N. Korea or Russia would come out with although with them voting Trump in in the first place maybe it's true.
Hell in a handcart. | |
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| Trump on 09:43 - Mar 2 with 1109 views | DJR |
| Trump on 07:05 - Mar 2 by iamatractorboy |
Stephen Miller is one of the creepiest people I've ever seen. Reminds me of Quint's speech in Jaws and the shark's dead eyes like a doll. |
I'm not convinced he's any worse than the rest.
This from the Guardian.
The commentary from party allies was oddly formulaic and repetitive. Lindsey Graham, who had posed for a photo with Zelenskyy just hours earlier, tweeted: “America was disrespected and the deal is off. I have never been more proud of President @realDonaldTrump and Vice President @JDVance for standing up for America First.”
Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, who has been one of Ukraine’s strongest backers up until his confirmation, tweeted: “Thank you @POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had the courage to do before. Thank you for putting America First. America is with you!”
Keith Kellogg, Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, tweeted: “Was honored to be with @POTUS, @VP, and [Rubio] in the Oval today during the bi-lateral with President Zelensky. As the President has ALWAYS done – he stood for America … America First.” | | | |
| Trump on 10:29 - Mar 2 with 1026 views | Churchman |
| Trump on 09:43 - Mar 2 by DJR |
I'm not convinced he's any worse than the rest.
This from the Guardian.
The commentary from party allies was oddly formulaic and repetitive. Lindsey Graham, who had posed for a photo with Zelenskyy just hours earlier, tweeted: “America was disrespected and the deal is off. I have never been more proud of President @realDonaldTrump and Vice President @JDVance for standing up for America First.”
Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, who has been one of Ukraine’s strongest backers up until his confirmation, tweeted: “Thank you @POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had the courage to do before. Thank you for putting America First. America is with you!”
Keith Kellogg, Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, tweeted: “Was honored to be with @POTUS, @VP, and [Rubio] in the Oval today during the bi-lateral with President Zelensky. As the President has ALWAYS done – he stood for America … America First.” |
America First? America at the expense of everyone else or America only would be more accurately.
Land of the free - providing you are a multi-millionaire and fit the profile.
Make America Great Again - renege on agreements, shaft our allies, shakedown anyone we can and bully anyone weak enough so we can grab more. Yep, I’m seeing the greatness there.
In god we trust - and god’s name is …… Trump!!! All praise him.
Marco Rubio: “Thank you @POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had the courage to do before.’ Well that puts Lincoln in his place along Roosevelt, Kennedy and the other Presidents of the Cold War, WW1. They did zilch compared to Trump and friends ganging up mob handed on a man who has bravely resisted a tyrant for three years.
How dare he not grovel in gratitude for having his country financially pillaged and handed over to a Russian dictator.
‘America first America is with you’ says everything about them. | | | |
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