| Are all eyes now on Man City? 12:49 - Mar 10 with 5047 views | Sparky85 |
Lots of news articles popping up over the past few weeks that we are likely to hear the initial findings either in March or around Easter. So am starting to think of the most likely scenario's.
With an appeals process which is believed could take 'months' I wonder whether there is enough time for any punishments to be given this season.
Now, I know everyone's general thought is that there is no way the PL will affect that much punishment that it relegates them, but I have to disagree with this due to the precedent that it sets for everyone else. If it is only a fine or embargo, what stops Newcastle (as the richest club) then just spending ridiculous amounts in 1 or 2 windows to win some silverware, knowing a punishment is likely 3 years away minimum.
All articles I have seen have said somewhere between 60-100 points. Even 60 likely relegates them as even winning every remaining game would get them to 19 points. Either us or Leicester will finish on a minimum of 18
So, selfishly thinking about us, the hope is that any punishment and then appeals are finalised by the end of this season, and then of course we finish above Leicester at the very least.
I know it is a lot of if's but's and maybe's, but I am clinging onto every remaining hope that we still have a good chance of staying up. |  | | |  |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:55 - Mar 10 with 4049 views | ITFCson |
Man City are around 12/1 to get relegated this season. So there is a real chance it happens, although a much greater chance it wont. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:58 - Mar 10 with 4015 views | homer_123 |
This will be the first year 4 get relegated. |  |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:02 - Mar 10 with 3964 views | Sparky85 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:58 - Mar 10 by homer_123 |
This will be the first year 4 get relegated. |
I can't see this happening personally, as they won't change the way promotion is obtained from the Championship mid season | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:03 - Mar 10 with 3947 views | Sparky85 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:55 - Mar 10 by ITFCson |
Man City are around 12/1 to get relegated this season. So there is a real chance it happens, although a much greater chance it wont. |
Bookies making sure they are covering themselves. I think the odds were quite short even at the start of the season | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:07 - Mar 10 with 3874 views | Steve_M |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:58 - Mar 10 by homer_123 |
This will be the first year 4 get relegated. |
No it won't, 1995 was as the number of clubs was reduced by two.
AS guilty as City clearly are, I just can't see a big enough points deduction to relegate them. |  |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:07 - Mar 10 with 3868 views | HighgateBlue |
It is not the Premier League which will decide what punishment Man City will get.
The Premier League has charged Man City. It is an independent commission which will decide whether each of the charges is proven or not, and if so, what the appropriate sanction is in respect of any breaches.
As to when the decision is to be published, I would doubt anyone on here knows that. I certainly don't. As to what sanction is likely, that will of course depend on which, and how many, charges are proven, and the degree of culpability which is considered to attach to Man City in respect of any breaches. Sanctions that have been imposed in the past will of course be referred to in argument, and presumably taken into account, when any sanction is decided upon.
One would imagine that the arguments in relation to sanctions would include the point you make, namely that there must be some sort of effective deterrent against other rich clubs feeling that they can simply ignore the rules and take whatever meagre hit comes their way in the distant future.
I can't see any appeal being completed before the end of this season, but then stranger things have happened. |  | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:09 - Mar 10 with 3837 views | _clive_baker_ |
Give it up Sparky, you'll feel better for it.
Man City aren't going to be relegated, not happening. |  | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:12 - Mar 10 with 3802 views | Linners |
I guess we'd all celebrate staying up if Man City got a 60-point deduction...but not sure I'd much look forward to another season in the PL. |  | | |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:16 - Mar 10 with 3761 views | Sparky85 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:07 - Mar 10 by HighgateBlue |
It is not the Premier League which will decide what punishment Man City will get.
The Premier League has charged Man City. It is an independent commission which will decide whether each of the charges is proven or not, and if so, what the appropriate sanction is in respect of any breaches.
As to when the decision is to be published, I would doubt anyone on here knows that. I certainly don't. As to what sanction is likely, that will of course depend on which, and how many, charges are proven, and the degree of culpability which is considered to attach to Man City in respect of any breaches. Sanctions that have been imposed in the past will of course be referred to in argument, and presumably taken into account, when any sanction is decided upon.
One would imagine that the arguments in relation to sanctions would include the point you make, namely that there must be some sort of effective deterrent against other rich clubs feeling that they can simply ignore the rules and take whatever meagre hit comes their way in the distant future.
I can't see any appeal being completed before the end of this season, but then stranger things have happened. |
Yes, apologies. Didn't go into the finer details of who does what IRO punishment.
The point on the deterrent is the key isn't it. Fine's and embargo's just won't cut it. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:17 - Mar 10 with 3736 views | Sparky85 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:09 - Mar 10 by _clive_baker_ |
Give it up Sparky, you'll feel better for it.
Man City aren't going to be relegated, not happening. |
Ha! I am not hanging all of my own hopes on this. I have been sadly pessimistic about our chances from a very early point in the season.
Friendly wager? | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:20 - Mar 10 with 3698 views | homer_123 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:07 - Mar 10 by Steve_M |
No it won't, 1995 was as the number of clubs was reduced by two.
AS guilty as City clearly are, I just can't see a big enough points deduction to relegate them. |
I wasn't being entirely serious ;) | |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:22 - Mar 10 with 3653 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's pretty much stated that they will get a fine at this stage, and everything will move on as is. |  |
| An East Anglian Town overtaken by Londoners |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:27 - Mar 10 with 3578 views | hype313 |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:22 - Mar 10 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's pretty much stated that they will get a fine at this stage, and everything will move on as is. |
Would the fine affect PSR  |  |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:30 - Mar 10 with 3530 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:07 - Mar 10 by Steve_M |
No it won't, 1995 was as the number of clubs was reduced by two.
AS guilty as City clearly are, I just can't see a big enough points deduction to relegate them. |
Of course, they'll wait until the end of the season and decide they survive by a point.. |  | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:34 - Mar 10 with 3442 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:22 - Mar 10 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's pretty much stated that they will get a fine at this stage, and everything will move on as is. |
Source?
As this doesn't match with what I've seen and heard recently. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:38 - Mar 10 with 3391 views | Steve_M |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:20 - Mar 10 by homer_123 |
I wasn't being entirely serious ;) |
I didn't think you were but couldn't resist the pedantry. | |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 14:35 - Mar 10 with 3159 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:34 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Source?
As this doesn't match with what I've seen and heard recently. |
No point in sources, everything is pure speculation. |  |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 16:37 - Mar 10 with 2901 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 14:35 - Mar 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
No point in sources, everything is pure speculation. |
Well yes, it's all speculation until anything is announced, but Kieran Maguire is at least credibly, unlikely when people on here pull some statement out of their @rse and present it as something of relevance.
If there is a credible source to the speculation, then of course their is a point in providing a source. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 19:23 - Mar 10 with 2546 views | OldFart71 |
This all reminds me of the "Thin Blue Line" and the head detective who talks about Arty Farty and Fannying around. Just like Ofwat, Ofgem and the rest of the so called regulators, toothless and come down on the side of who has got the most money. Just like decision making by referees you either have rules or you don't. None of this open to interpretation. Funny how interpretation depends on who you are playing. The Premier League get's all the money just as bosses of Companies have done for years. It's run by Sky who determine when games are played and is responsible for these stupid wages, stupid prices of ordinary footballers and can give you a contract which is slanted in their favour. They state increases on their services are necessary to provide a better service when many of the so called pundits commenting on football matches have as much charisma as something that crawled out from under a stone and that's probably doing a disservice to the creature. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 20:32 - Mar 10 with 2418 views | tonybied |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 16:37 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Well yes, it's all speculation until anything is announced, but Kieran Maguire is at least credibly, unlikely when people on here pull some statement out of their @rse and present it as something of relevance.
If there is a credible source to the speculation, then of course their is a point in providing a source. |
There is no source, it's tosh. Just ignore the local fire warden who enjoys pissing on everyones bonfire. [Post edited 10 Mar 20:39]
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 07:32 - Mar 11 with 2000 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 13:22 - Mar 10 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's pretty much stated that they will get a fine at this stage, and everything will move on as is. |
A few days ago, when referring to West Ham v Leicester, you posted "Could be an important result for us if City are deducted points." |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 08:49 - Mar 11 with 1776 views | textbackup |
We will be lucky to finish 3rd bottom at the rate we are going.
Not sure how I’d feel if we were to stay up with 18/19 points because Man City get points deducted if I’m honest. |  |
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| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 09:27 - Mar 11 with 1694 views | tonybied |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 08:49 - Mar 11 by textbackup |
We will be lucky to finish 3rd bottom at the rate we are going.
Not sure how I’d feel if we were to stay up with 18/19 points because Man City get points deducted if I’m honest. |
Extremely fortunate but eternally grateful would cover it for me. You could feel it's undeserved...but we could do with something falling into our laps for a change, after having to make 90+ points 2 seasons in a row, just to scrape 2nd place. | | | |
| Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:16 - Mar 11 with 1595 views | Trequartista |
I'm starting to have more interest in this than Wolves' results to be fair. |  |
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