| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:54 - Mar 19 with 2608 views | football |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:48 - Mar 19 by Sarge |
I’m sure it will be taken just as seriously as the many objections from residents and results of consultations are.
In my case it’s a village in Cambridgeshire and isn’t a secret as it was reported in the press. But the GCP’s hegemony trumps all. |
The comments were looked at. We went and spoke to people, visited their homes. We just disagreed with their views |  | |  |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:55 - Mar 19 with 2606 views | Tonytown |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:41 - Mar 19 by football |
Or she - but please focus on it being male |
The tone of your posts is definitely giving off male vibes.
All delivered with a lack of self awareness that even Partridge would struggle to achieve. [Post edited 19 Mar 22:58]
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:20 - Mar 19 with 2535 views | football |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:54 - Mar 19 by J2BLUE |
You have had some unfair stick in this thread. You can only do your job within the rules.
As part of planning permission it should be law that they have to plant trees high enough to block the building from sight. That wouldn't solve the light issue but it would at least help not to feel like they're in prison. |
I'm happy to take stick - part of my job which I routinely get stick for! We cannot insist on such trees as part of planning permission | | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:24 - Mar 19 with 2514 views | football |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:55 - Mar 19 by Tonytown |
The tone of your posts is definitely giving off male vibes.
All delivered with a lack of self awareness that even Partridge would struggle to achieve. [Post edited 19 Mar 22:58]
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what is a male vibe? Seems somewhat sexist assuming my comments are male | | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:28 - Mar 19 with 2486 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 15:44 - Mar 17 by itfcjoe |
They live where there is a train line running at the back of their garden and an A road another 75m behind that - I obviously wouldn't want it in the back of my garden but some people really do over exaggerate the effect of things.
It wasn't like it was an AONB in the first place with cargo trains thundering past it all day.
The price of progress, and complaints like this are why nothing ever gets done in this country infrastructure wise - it's an infill bit of land between the A14 and a the Felixstowe main train line |
Well said Mr Joseph.
I can hear the trains running past my house in good old Romford. Especially that 5:27am cargo train. Do I complain? Do I feck.
That’s the world we live in I reckon. We either adapt or we die. |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:33 - Mar 19 with 2451 views | StokieBlue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 15:44 - Mar 17 by itfcjoe |
They live where there is a train line running at the back of their garden and an A road another 75m behind that - I obviously wouldn't want it in the back of my garden but some people really do over exaggerate the effect of things.
It wasn't like it was an AONB in the first place with cargo trains thundering past it all day.
The price of progress, and complaints like this are why nothing ever gets done in this country infrastructure wise - it's an infill bit of land between the A14 and a the Felixstowe main train line |
"It wasn't like it was an AONB in the first place with cargo trains thundering past it all day."
They are certainly trying to make this claim in the national press:
"Before the warehouse was built, Ms Upson and fellow residents had views of a field with lots of trees, classified as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)." [1]
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[1]. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/giant-warehouse-east-suffolk-pla |  | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 06:35 - Mar 20 with 2332 views | Benters |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:28 - Mar 19 by The_Romford_Blue |
Well said Mr Joseph.
I can hear the trains running past my house in good old Romford. Especially that 5:27am cargo train. Do I complain? Do I feck.
That’s the world we live in I reckon. We either adapt or we die. |
One of the new housing estates we have had built in Benters their houses back onto the branch line that runs to Crackers and Walton.
Some of the newbies are complaining that the trains wake them up,the first one comes into Benters Central at 5.55.
The railway has only been there for roughly 145 years.
They also don’t like the Farmers working all hours to get the fields ready or getting the harvest done,sometimes this goes on right through the night. |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 07:03 - Mar 20 with 2281 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:54 - Mar 19 by J2BLUE |
You have had some unfair stick in this thread. You can only do your job within the rules.
As part of planning permission it should be law that they have to plant trees high enough to block the building from sight. That wouldn't solve the light issue but it would at least help not to feel like they're in prison. |
Not sure planting giant sequoias would manage that. |  | | |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 07:39 - Mar 20 with 2232 views | itfcjoe |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:33 - Mar 19 by StokieBlue |
"It wasn't like it was an AONB in the first place with cargo trains thundering past it all day."
They are certainly trying to make this claim in the national press:
"Before the warehouse was built, Ms Upson and fellow residents had views of a field with lots of trees, classified as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)." [1]
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[1]. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/giant-warehouse-east-suffolk-pla |
Yep - but unless I’m very much mistaken [but have worked at lots of properties in the area and did a biggish development in Nacton at an old school] it is - houses with gardens, the gardens are framed by the train line that runs along the back….then there is the now developed area then the A14 and then the other side of this in Nacton village over the bridge over what acts as a bridge over the A14 and presumably the area that leads to Orwell Park school
But I’m almost certain there is no view of the AONB which isn’t separated by a Trainline and a dual carriageway |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 07:47 - Mar 20 with 2190 views | Dubtractor |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 07:39 - Mar 20 by itfcjoe |
Yep - but unless I’m very much mistaken [but have worked at lots of properties in the area and did a biggish development in Nacton at an old school] it is - houses with gardens, the gardens are framed by the train line that runs along the back….then there is the now developed area then the A14 and then the other side of this in Nacton village over the bridge over what acts as a bridge over the A14 and presumably the area that leads to Orwell Park school
But I’m almost certain there is no view of the AONB which isn’t separated by a Trainline and a dual carriageway |
The aonb area is basically along the line of the river, as you say, and it's a massive stretch to suggest these houses had a view of it!
I did chuckle at that reference in the story.
The shed is still an eyesore, and I'd be fuming if it was at the end of my garden, but making stuff up doesn't help the argument. |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 11:24 - Mar 20 with 2047 views | itfcjoe |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 07:47 - Mar 20 by Dubtractor |
The aonb area is basically along the line of the river, as you say, and it's a massive stretch to suggest these houses had a view of it!
I did chuckle at that reference in the story.
The shed is still an eyesore, and I'd be fuming if it was at the end of my garden, but making stuff up doesn't help the argument. |
And ultimately, whilst I agree re not wanting it at bottom of my garden, being an eyesore is not a reason not to do something like this - it's the same height as the other units along the back of Ransomes Europark like Hembrandt and it's clearly land of no value which is perfect for this sort of thing.
I wouldn't want it in my view, but don't think I'd complain like this because ultimately you buy a house and what you get is that, not the right to everything around it including the view.
I front on to Rushmere Heath, so very unlikely something will get built there but it's not impossible so you take your chances. You can't square the circle of wanting to have views over other peoples properties/land etc whilst buying in an area that is not fully developed.
I agree with the planner here, they are doing their job and I don't see on what grounds this could have been turned down | |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 12:10 - Mar 20 with 1946 views | artsbossbeard |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 11:24 - Mar 20 by itfcjoe |
And ultimately, whilst I agree re not wanting it at bottom of my garden, being an eyesore is not a reason not to do something like this - it's the same height as the other units along the back of Ransomes Europark like Hembrandt and it's clearly land of no value which is perfect for this sort of thing.
I wouldn't want it in my view, but don't think I'd complain like this because ultimately you buy a house and what you get is that, not the right to everything around it including the view.
I front on to Rushmere Heath, so very unlikely something will get built there but it's not impossible so you take your chances. You can't square the circle of wanting to have views over other peoples properties/land etc whilst buying in an area that is not fully developed.
I agree with the planner here, they are doing their job and I don't see on what grounds this could have been turned down |
I moved into a new build circa 18months ago and when I look out of my front window, I see the back gardens of a street that's been there forever and (probably) had an uninterrupted view of fields, trees plus a decent walking area that our relatively small plot now takes up plus their relatively quiet road is the only in-out road for circa 60 houses so I do get the impact that we've had on others.
What I don't understand is that our "Residents Association's Facebook Page", where the spokespeople want to stop one resident from parking where they've always parked for x amount of years as the walkway doesn't really allow car parking plus they've asked for some yellow lines around a junction to also stop a long term resident of the previously quiet road from parking where he's always parked. I've refused to get involved but I roll my eyes when the missus reads this to me.
The RA did some wonderful stuff with the developers when they "finished" the plot but it all seems somewhat petty now.
I think it's kinda related to this point...kinda. |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 17:39 - Mar 20 with 1733 views | textbackup |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:28 - Mar 19 by The_Romford_Blue |
Well said Mr Joseph.
I can hear the trains running past my house in good old Romford. Especially that 5:27am cargo train. Do I complain? Do I feck.
That’s the world we live in I reckon. We either adapt or we die. |
Has that trainline always been there?
Much like the line at the back and the road at the front of their houses… but to have the ENTIRE skyline dominated by that shed thing, I can’t get my head round anyone thinking that’s ok. |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 18:23 - Mar 20 with 1670 views | yesjohn99 |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 17:39 - Mar 20 by textbackup |
Has that trainline always been there?
Much like the line at the back and the road at the front of their houses… but to have the ENTIRE skyline dominated by that shed thing, I can’t get my head round anyone thinking that’s ok. |
Just because it ticks some boxes on a made up checklist it doesnt make it right in my book. | | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 18:45 - Mar 20 with 1635 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 06:35 - Mar 20 by Benters |
One of the new housing estates we have had built in Benters their houses back onto the branch line that runs to Crackers and Walton.
Some of the newbies are complaining that the trains wake them up,the first one comes into Benters Central at 5.55.
The railway has only been there for roughly 145 years.
They also don’t like the Farmers working all hours to get the fields ready or getting the harvest done,sometimes this goes on right through the night. |
I grew up next to Heathrow airport and was right on the flight path.
I do not recognise any complaint about trains! |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 20:55 - Mar 20 with 1557 views | bournemouthblue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:54 - Mar 19 by J2BLUE |
You have had some unfair stick in this thread. You can only do your job within the rules.
As part of planning permission it should be law that they have to plant trees high enough to block the building from sight. That wouldn't solve the light issue but it would at least help not to feel like they're in prison. |
I actually don't think anyone is questioning whether the planner has followed the rules
It's a complete lack of empathy from 'Football' on here that is winding people up
I'm also slightly concerned they're trying to claim the logistics park was directly behind their houses on a previous post, it very much isn't, it worries me the planner doesn't seem to know where these warehouses actually are
It was an undeveloped field, it may well have got planning permission for warehouse's back in 2010 which I'm sure flew under the radar back then
They certainly wouldn't have been aware of the scale of such warehouse's back then I suspect so that is a weak argument imho |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 20:58 - Mar 20 with 1554 views | bournemouthblue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:44 - Mar 19 by football |
Yes they did. The site has beeb allocated for large shed since pre 2010 so it was always known the site would be developed in this way |
To your planning department maybe, when the neighbours back then heard about warehouses, I suspect they wouldn't have kicked up a fuss because they wouldn't have appreciated the potential scale of this development
And presumably this development wasn't even a consideration back then, Brexit wasn't even a twinkle in the eye of Cameron back then, nor was the threat of Felixstowe becoming a freeport [Post edited 20 Mar 21:00]
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 21:03 - Mar 20 with 1545 views | bournemouthblue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 22:44 - Mar 19 by football |
Yes they did. The site has beeb allocated for large shed since pre 2010 so it was always known the site would be developed in this way |
You haven't answered the question, the fact planning permission was granted in 2010 isn't the argument you think it is
Answer the question, on what grounds need the neighbours object, it's a simple question
There must be a link to a webpage or PDF of the planning for this, are you able to share this here | |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 11:39 - Mar 21 with 1311 views | blueasfook |
A question about it is featured in the weekly BBC News website quiz this week! |  |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 18:20 - Mar 21 with 1052 views | bournemouthblue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 11:39 - Mar 21 by blueasfook |
A question about it is featured in the weekly BBC News website quiz this week! |
I suspect it will make the national news next week, it's been in the national papers now
I bet it's been fun in the East Suffolk planning office this week | |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:14 - Mar 21 with 926 views | football |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 20:55 - Mar 20 by bournemouthblue |
I actually don't think anyone is questioning whether the planner has followed the rules
It's a complete lack of empathy from 'Football' on here that is winding people up
I'm also slightly concerned they're trying to claim the logistics park was directly behind their houses on a previous post, it very much isn't, it worries me the planner doesn't seem to know where these warehouses actually are
It was an undeveloped field, it may well have got planning permission for warehouse's back in 2010 which I'm sure flew under the radar back then
They certainly wouldn't have been aware of the scale of such warehouse's back then I suspect so that is a weak argument imho |
To be honest, we are a regulatory function and cannot make decisions by empathy or the like - our decisions have to be found in planning law. One aspect go that is that planning cannot protect a private view - so the change in outlook from those properties is not a material planning consideration that can be looked at. The law is very clear on what we can and cannot look at, and whilst I appreciate many non planners don't underatand those facts, to us it is limited. There is a change to their amenity but not to a level, based on evidence, that woudl substantiate a refusal which could be upheld at appeal.
The Council were aware of the location of the warehouses and the relationships = there are plans and site visits are undertaken | | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:16 - Mar 21 with 925 views | Tonytown |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 18:20 - Mar 21 by bournemouthblue |
I suspect it will make the national news next week, it's been in the national papers now
I bet it's been fun in the East Suffolk planning office this week |
Bragging about being responsible for such a massive cock up isnt going down as well as he or she thought it would. [Post edited 22 Mar 10:22]
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:18 - Mar 21 with 922 views | football |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 21:03 - Mar 20 by bournemouthblue |
You haven't answered the question, the fact planning permission was granted in 2010 isn't the argument you think it is
Answer the question, on what grounds need the neighbours object, it's a simple question
There must be a link to a webpage or PDF of the planning for this, are you able to share this here |
I didn't say permission was granted - I said the site was allocated in the local plan for B8 use, therefore it has permission in principle. The application was advertised in accordance with the SCI and all comments received were assessed- you are quite able to look at that information on the public system
Neighbours can object on any grounds they see fit, completely at their discretion, and officers will advise on the materiality of those matters in any report
you are asking for stuff that is in the public domain so look at it yourself and stop trying to be clever | | | |
| Who lives near the mega shed (n/t) on 23:22 - Mar 21 with 914 views | Tonytown |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:18 - Mar 21 by football |
I didn't say permission was granted - I said the site was allocated in the local plan for B8 use, therefore it has permission in principle. The application was advertised in accordance with the SCI and all comments received were assessed- you are quite able to look at that information on the public system
Neighbours can object on any grounds they see fit, completely at their discretion, and officers will advise on the materiality of those matters in any report
you are asking for stuff that is in the public domain so look at it yourself and stop trying to be clever |
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| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:49 - Mar 21 with 893 views | bournemouthblue |
| Who lives near the mega shed on 23:18 - Mar 21 by football |
I didn't say permission was granted - I said the site was allocated in the local plan for B8 use, therefore it has permission in principle. The application was advertised in accordance with the SCI and all comments received were assessed- you are quite able to look at that information on the public system
Neighbours can object on any grounds they see fit, completely at their discretion, and officers will advise on the materiality of those matters in any report
you are asking for stuff that is in the public domain so look at it yourself and stop trying to be clever |
So you're not going to provide the information
You seem so proud you were involved with this, I'm surprised you aren't willing to dig the link out, I'd expect better frankly but clearly my expectations are too high | |
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