| What stops us winning the Championship next year? 15:59 - Mar 26 with 9001 views | Chris_ITFC |
Last year we finished 2nd. Then spent £100m on that team.
If football was logical, we’d walk it, but… |  | | |  |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:49 - Mar 26 with 1627 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:48 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
Burgess, Muric, probably Walton too as he won’t want to be missing another season.
Harness and Luongo are gone too I think. |
Some people are clamoring for Harness to be back after scoring a couple for struggling Derby, he shouldn't really be near a parachute clubs first 11 IMO. |  | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:49 - Mar 26 with 1626 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Complacency will undermine our chances.
Whatever changes there are over the summer, we will have a stronger squad next year than in the Championship last year, so i f we don't assume we'll walk it, we will do well. [Post edited 26 Mar 18:20]
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:50 - Mar 26 with 1624 views | hoppy |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:41 - Mar 26 by _clive_baker_ |
- Leicester
- Southampton
- At least 3 of Leeds, Sheffield United, Burnley, Sunderland, Coventry, West Brom
- A wild card Bristol City, Boro, Watford
- Birmingham
- Norwich spawning points against us
- McKenna leaving
- Players leaving
- Not addressing CM properly or recruiting well enough
- Expectant supporters
- Injuries
We should be strong, but we can't be expectant. Leicester and Southampton will be thinking the same. Hopefully we can keep McKenna and keep O'Shea, Davis, Greaves, Woolfenden, Hutchinson, Philogene, Clarke, Hirst. Keep 6 of that 8 and with the likes of Burns, Chaplin, Szmodics, Woolfy, Palmer, Taylor etc we've got the basis of a very strong squad. It won't come easy though. |
You mention Birmingham... but should they get promotion, you'd imagine Wrexham will chuck an absolute wad at trying to buy the next level too. |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:51 - Mar 26 with 1615 views | flykickingbybgunn |
There is a lot of negativity on here.
The sort of people for whom the glass is not only half empty but it is also evaporating fast and there is possibly a drought coming.
If we do go down, and at this point that is still an if, we will still have many players far better than we had when last in the Champs.
Personally I am looking forward to next year where ever we are.
Chill, relax, drink more beer, support the Town.
It will all work out.
Trust me. |  | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:56 - Mar 26 with 1585 views | billlm |
But is correct,
No divine right, |  | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:01 - Mar 26 with 1586 views | MattinLondon |
On paper, not a lot.
In comparison to the PL, the Championship is absolute tosh - almost like a different sport. However, it should be respected.
What with parachute payments and an already very good championship squad, that league shouldn’t really hold no fear. |  | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:26 - Mar 26 with 1534 views | sjg |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 16:31 - Mar 26 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s very strange isn’t it. Potentially, we could only have one or two left from those who started our last match. Hopefully we’ll hang on to more than I expect, but I think some people are going to be disappointed if they think we’ve bought a title winning side for next year already.
We will have money to spend that’s beyond the wildest dreams of most of the rest of the league though, so we’ll be in a good position. Just not with most of this team. |
What are you talking about? In what world will 10 of the players that started our last game move on | | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:46 - Mar 26 with 1477 views | Superblue95 |
Delap, Omari and Axel will go. Probably Leif and O Shea too with Harness and Luongo released. I imagine we’ll try to bin Muric and Johnson due to their high wages versus performance, but it will be difficult.
Assuming we don’t balls up recruitment then I don’t see how the below doesn’t see us in a strong position for automatic promotion.
Palmer
H. Clarke
Woolfenden
Greaves
New LB
Morsy
New CM
Burns
Szmodics
Philogene
New ST
Walton
Burgess
Townsend
New CM
Taylor
Ogbene
Chaplin
J Clarke
Hirst |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:47 - Mar 26 with 1471 views | Garv |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:40 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
As well as Mass obviously. Morsy is turning 36 and looks on the downward and Taylor hasn’t suggested he’s the partner for Sam to dominate the league.
Likewise if Taylor is up to snuff the other alternatives like Humphreys as a partner would be incredibly lightweight for a Saturday-Tuesday grind like the Championship. Theres no way we don’t need to rebuild our midfield. |
Morsy's 33. I think we're seeing the pace of the Premier League get the better of him at times, although that doesn't tell the whole story of his performances. And, as we know, the Championship is very different. Overall he's had a more impressive season than Phillips.
All fair-ish comments but it's not 'no midfield'. We'll still have two players who appeared in almost every game in our promotion season. |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:54 - Mar 26 with 1461 views | bournemouthblue |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:48 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
Burgess, Muric, probably Walton too as he won’t want to be missing another season.
Harness and Luongo are gone too I think. |
I'd be surprised if Burgess moved on, I suspect Hutchinson's fee will be too high to encourage a resale at this stage as well [Post edited 26 Mar 18:55]
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:55 - Mar 26 with 1451 views | MK1 |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:50 - Mar 26 by hoppy |
You mention Birmingham... but should they get promotion, you'd imagine Wrexham will chuck an absolute wad at trying to buy the next level too. |
Wrexham will be happy to stay in the league. Birmingham will be happy with mid table. I think Leicester, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Coventry, Sheff. Utd/Burnley, W.B.A & Ourselves will be battling for top 6. I think we have a better chance than all those already in the Championship if we get our attitude right. Leicester and Ourselves will be looking for top 2. I see Southampton struggling a little as their better players will leave.
Our best chance of bouncing straight back will be McKenna. If we can keep him, then we go straight back up. |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:17 - Mar 26 with 1418 views | MK1 |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:46 - Mar 26 by Superblue95 |
Delap, Omari and Axel will go. Probably Leif and O Shea too with Harness and Luongo released. I imagine we’ll try to bin Muric and Johnson due to their high wages versus performance, but it will be difficult.
Assuming we don’t balls up recruitment then I don’t see how the below doesn’t see us in a strong position for automatic promotion.
Palmer
H. Clarke
Woolfenden
Greaves
New LB
Morsy
New CM
Burns
Szmodics
Philogene
New ST
Walton
Burgess
Townsend
New CM
Taylor
Ogbene
Chaplin
J Clarke
Hirst |
I hope we can start with something like.
Palmer.
Johnson, O'Shea, Greaves, Townsend.
Morsy, Taylor.
Ogbene, Szmodics, Philogene.
Hirst.
Walton, Slicker.
Clarke, Woolfy, Burgess, NLB.
2 x NCM.
Burns, Chaplin, Clarke, Broadhead.
2 x NCF.
I think Davis, Hutchinson & Delap will leave for decent fees. | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:19 - Mar 26 with 1413 views | vapour_trail |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 16:11 - Mar 26 by GeoffSentence |
Manchester City getting hit hard with points deductions. |
I thought this was definitely being sorted in March? Cutting it a bit fine.
Being up against Man City in the championship could be a problem. How many will Haaland score down there??
Agree with everyone who has said complacency. Next season will be harder than the promotion year when there was no pressure to go up. |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:21 - Mar 26 with 1391 views | Mullet |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:47 - Mar 26 by Garv |
Morsy's 33. I think we're seeing the pace of the Premier League get the better of him at times, although that doesn't tell the whole story of his performances. And, as we know, the Championship is very different. Overall he's had a more impressive season than Phillips.
All fair-ish comments but it's not 'no midfield'. We'll still have two players who appeared in almost every game in our promotion season. |
Yeah 34 at the star of the season - I’m not sure how I added 2 years even from being on my phone. The question really is, what will he bring to the squad and if it’s not 75- 90 mins at the top of the division twice a week, we need at least two who can do that.
It’s no secret why we’ve gone after Downes so hard, or been looking in France etc |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:31 - Mar 26 with 1360 views | hoppy |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:55 - Mar 26 by MK1 |
Wrexham will be happy to stay in the league. Birmingham will be happy with mid table. I think Leicester, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Coventry, Sheff. Utd/Burnley, W.B.A & Ourselves will be battling for top 6. I think we have a better chance than all those already in the Championship if we get our attitude right. Leicester and Ourselves will be looking for top 2. I see Southampton struggling a little as their better players will leave.
Our best chance of bouncing straight back will be McKenna. If we can keep him, then we go straight back up. |
You say Wrexham will be happy to stay there… but will the owners’ egos? | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:35 - Mar 26 with 1350 views | vapour_trail |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:31 - Mar 26 by hoppy |
You say Wrexham will be happy to stay there… but will the owners’ egos? |
I don’t buy that either.
And Birmingham will be aiming higher than midtable. | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:45 - Mar 26 with 1333 views | Garv |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 19:21 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
Yeah 34 at the star of the season - I’m not sure how I added 2 years even from being on my phone. The question really is, what will he bring to the squad and if it’s not 75- 90 mins at the top of the division twice a week, we need at least two who can do that.
It’s no secret why we’ve gone after Downes so hard, or been looking in France etc |
This can't be much more than a simple prediction, that some won't agree with, but I think he'll comfortably be churning out 75 minutes every week.
Downes would be nice, I'm just not sure Southampton will sell to us and I'm not convinced he even wants to come. It would feel weird after what's gone before, but who knows what the reality actually is. I reckon he and Southampton will kiss and make up. | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:03 - Mar 26 with 1302 views | Linners |
Pound-for-pound, that team wasn't good enough to get promoted last season. It was a combination of decent players, smart coaching and irrepressible momentum that took us up. Next year, at least one, maybe two of those elements won't be there.
That said, we should still go close. |  | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:14 - Mar 26 with 1267 views | bournemouthblue |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 17:50 - Mar 26 by hoppy |
You mention Birmingham... but should they get promotion, you'd imagine Wrexham will chuck an absolute wad at trying to buy the next level too. |
this will be the first season that Wrexham find difficult I suspect
Birmingham probably will be reasonably competitive | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:21 - Mar 26 with 1256 views | bournemouthblue |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 18:46 - Mar 26 by Superblue95 |
Delap, Omari and Axel will go. Probably Leif and O Shea too with Harness and Luongo released. I imagine we’ll try to bin Muric and Johnson due to their high wages versus performance, but it will be difficult.
Assuming we don’t balls up recruitment then I don’t see how the below doesn’t see us in a strong position for automatic promotion.
Palmer
H. Clarke
Woolfenden
Greaves
New LB
Morsy
New CM
Burns
Szmodics
Philogene
New ST
Walton
Burgess
Townsend
New CM
Taylor
Ogbene
Chaplin
J Clarke
Hirst |
I'd be surprised if Hutch goes, simply because I can't see someone shelling out £30 million plus for someone who has neither a lot of assists or goals in the PL
It would be very risky
A big fee for Delap probably does a lot of work for us, Davis seems another possibility, one or two squad players moving on and perhaps a shock one but I don't see huge changes to the squad
We probably spend quite aggressively again and we have to be getting that recruitment right [Post edited 26 Mar 20:31]
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:28 - Mar 26 with 1224 views | LancsBlue |
We have ambitious owners and I think the club will yes want to secure promotion but also to ensure that we go up in a stronger position. For that reason I think there may be a few surprises with players who have served us well but ultimately were found wanting in the Premier League being moved on in favour of players with a potential higher ceiling. Simply being a very good Championship player may not cut it in every case. I'm not saying there will be a wholesale clearout but the club will want to inject new blood and new impetus. Can also see a couple of Hutchinson style high grade young Prem loanees coming in. |  |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:33 - Mar 26 with 1201 views | algy |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:03 - Mar 26 by Linners |
Pound-for-pound, that team wasn't good enough to get promoted last season. It was a combination of decent players, smart coaching and irrepressible momentum that took us up. Next year, at least one, maybe two of those elements won't be there.
That said, we should still go close. |
Not to forget that last season's team had drive, determination, desire, ambition and great on field leadership, qualities that were enhanced and developed in L1 and newcomers adopted. Qualities that made the difference in overcoming fine margins. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. Our only home win in a year. |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:34 - Mar 26 with 1193 views | bournemouthblue |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 20:28 - Mar 26 by LancsBlue |
We have ambitious owners and I think the club will yes want to secure promotion but also to ensure that we go up in a stronger position. For that reason I think there may be a few surprises with players who have served us well but ultimately were found wanting in the Premier League being moved on in favour of players with a potential higher ceiling. Simply being a very good Championship player may not cut it in every case. I'm not saying there will be a wholesale clearout but the club will want to inject new blood and new impetus. Can also see a couple of Hutchinson style high grade young Prem loanees coming in. |
I fully expect for us to go hard, we need to be growing this side and squad for the long term | |
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| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 21:32 - Mar 26 with 1092 views | Chris_ITFC |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 16:24 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
This sort of complacency in your first sentence being taken as received wisdom.
We are about to lose a standout striker, have no midfield, possibly two goalkeepers off and several potential exits/ loans ending throughout the squad.
If anyone thinks we don’t have a lot of work to do with or without McKenna they’re not paying attention. |
I agree on the midfield, fair point, because Morsy and Mass won’t be what they were.
Less so on Delap. That’s almost my point really - we’ll have Hirst, who got us to 2nd, and in some positions, we’ll (in theory!) have much better players around him.
Midfield-aside, we should have many of last year’s XI, plus all the (on paper) upgrades.
Momentum was mentioned elsewhere. We sure won’t have that though. | | | |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 21:32 - Mar 26 with 1091 views | Chris_ITFC |
| What stops us winning the Championship next year? on 16:24 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
This sort of complacency in your first sentence being taken as received wisdom.
We are about to lose a standout striker, have no midfield, possibly two goalkeepers off and several potential exits/ loans ending throughout the squad.
If anyone thinks we don’t have a lot of work to do with or without McKenna they’re not paying attention. |
(My OP was more of an exam question than an opinion though!) | | | |
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