| Reform 06:58 - May 2 with 20043 views | Benters |
Well done.
They don’t like it up em 👍🇬🇧 |  |
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| Reform on 11:30 - May 3 with 729 views | noggin |
Yeah, 2 wOrLd WArS & A wORlD cUp. ROol bRiTAnIa |  |
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| Reform on 12:19 - May 3 with 640 views | Benters |
Well done Brother. | |
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| Reform on 12:32 - May 3 with 617 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform on 10:35 - May 3 by glasso |
We're a fairly economically illiterate nation. I'd argue most nations are, in all honesty.
Like, we can do the sums and work out our household finances, but how many of us (and I include myself in this) *really* understand the workings of an economy? How this leads to that, how cutting this affects that, how paying for that means saving on this...
We're all getting more skint by the day, and we want answers. The real answers are incredibly complicated and might also involve difficult conversations/decisions about what we're willing to sacrifice (either money or services etc).
It's much easier to point at a group of people and say 'it's their fault'. Not the billionaires and millionaires, of course, who *do* shoulder a lot of the blame, but the poor people who are different from us because that means it's definitely not MY fault, and even if I become successful one day and end up with seven figures in my bank account it still won't be my fault because I'll never be one of 'them.'
Sorry to say it, but it's dumb politics and it works because a lot of us are incredibly open to the simple solution. It won't work, but who cares? If it gets you elected and gets the money rolling in to your bank account then it's done its job.
You can put Farage, Trump, Tommy Robinson, most of the last Tory government and some of the new Labour government into that model and it all works out.
The thing with governments is that you only have a limited amount of time in power, so there's no point taking the difficult route (which probably involves short term unpopularity and tough conversations) for a long term gain that'll be felt in 20 years time. Just keep the status quo and be popular for a bit, then disappear into the sunset with your Minister's pension.
And to anyone who thinks Reform are challenging that status quo, they're really not. They're no different from half a dozen other governments and/or parties here and around the world. They're just a new party doing the same old things. |
Excellent post. I'd usually agree with governments thinking there's no point taking the long term difficult route (which involves short term unpopularity and tough conversations) but it seems Labour have been doing a bit of that (for example the winter fuel payments and farmer's inheritance). These are things that probably are right and better for the long term that many are getting worked up about, which is making Labour and Starmer/Reeves especially unpopular right now.
The Tories were the masters of the crowd-pleasers, especially in the lead up to an election. People fell for it though, time and time again. Now Reform are telling a certain demographic what they want to hear, but they'll never actually do anything about it (even if, God forbid, they got in). It's all just words in a popularity contest. |  |
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| Reform on 12:33 - May 3 with 615 views | Plums |
Fixed it for you
реформа 🇷🇺 |  |
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| Reform on 12:52 - May 3 with 580 views | positivity |
| Reform on 12:19 - May 3 by Benters |
Well done Brother. |
well done comrade, surely? |  |
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| Reform on 13:33 - May 3 with 524 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Reform on 08:26 - May 2 by NedPlimpton |
Who's "they" and what don't they like "up em"?
Empty patriotic slogans sum up reform perfectly really |
Zulus, and bayonets, if my memories of Dad's Army is correct.
Might have been Boers...
But definitely bayonets. | | | |
| Reform on 13:45 - May 3 with 517 views | leitrimblue |
We're 12 pages in, as anybody actually managed to explain any benefits of voting Reform or even outlined any of their policies that appeal to them yet? |  | | |
| Reform on 14:11 - May 3 with 480 views | BlueForYou |
| Reform on 13:45 - May 3 by leitrimblue |
We're 12 pages in, as anybody actually managed to explain any benefits of voting Reform or even outlined any of their policies that appeal to them yet? |
Raising the personal tax threshold to £20k would interest me, along with raising the Inheritance Tax threshold to £2m, & getting rid of IR35. |  | | |
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| Reform on 14:12 - May 3 with 478 views | Leaky |
| Reform on 13:45 - May 3 by leitrimblue |
We're 12 pages in, as anybody actually managed to explain any benefits of voting Reform or even outlined any of their policies that appeal to them yet? |
They are council elections. Why would need policy's, in Genral Election yes |  | | |
| Reform on 14:16 - May 3 with 466 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform on 14:11 - May 3 by BlueForYou |
Raising the personal tax threshold to £20k would interest me, along with raising the Inheritance Tax threshold to £2m, & getting rid of IR35. |
But would that be enough reason for you to vote for um?
Genuine question | | | |
| Reform on 14:17 - May 3 with 458 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform on 14:12 - May 3 by Leaky |
They are council elections. Why would need policy's, in Genral Election yes |
I mean call me old fashioned, but it's always nice to know what yer voting for  | | | |
| Reform on 14:18 - May 3 with 458 views | positivity |
| Reform on 14:11 - May 3 by BlueForYou |
Raising the personal tax threshold to £20k would interest me, along with raising the Inheritance Tax threshold to £2m, & getting rid of IR35. |
and paying for that how? just from taking money away from special needs? | |
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| Reform on 14:22 - May 3 with 438 views | positivity |
| Reform on 14:12 - May 3 by Leaky |
They are council elections. Why would need policy's, in Genral Election yes |
so it's just a vibes vote then? | |
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| Reform on 14:30 - May 3 with 425 views | Ryorry |
| Reform on 13:45 - May 3 by leitrimblue |
We're 12 pages in, as anybody actually managed to explain any benefits of voting Reform or even outlined any of their policies that appeal to them yet? |
Devil's advocate here.
Not Labour
Not Tory
Not LibDems
Not Green
Not Woke
Chance to uselessly vent , rant, rail and feel you 'belong' (in the Daily Fail group of 'protesters' (who can't be bovvered to march or demonstrate in the usual way). |  |
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| Reform on 14:37 - May 3 with 407 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform on 14:30 - May 3 by Ryorry |
Devil's advocate here.
Not Labour
Not Tory
Not LibDems
Not Green
Not Woke
Chance to uselessly vent , rant, rail and feel you 'belong' (in the Daily Fail group of 'protesters' (who can't be bovvered to march or demonstrate in the usual way). |
Argh, you could be right. I guess I'm struggling to see how people can genuinely believe that public schoolboy banker Farage is an alternative to the public schoolboy Status quo.
But I can see how the weakness of the 2 previously main parties could leave people to look for alternatives. Even if that alternative is a party run by a privileged rubber faced chancer parading as a man of the people | | | |
| Reform on 14:57 - May 3 with 383 views | BlueForYou |
| Reform on 14:16 - May 3 by leitrimblue |
But would that be enough reason for you to vote for um?
Genuine question |
Think there's also a policy of doing away with business rates & having a delivery tax on online orders, which might help the high street. These ideas should boost small business which in turn will help create some economic growth. Maybe they'll cancel Labours stupid employers NI raise. Maybe they'll finally rid Councils of wastage? Didn't vote in the last Election. No idea if I will next time. | | | |
| Reform on 16:03 - May 3 with 320 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform on 14:57 - May 3 by BlueForYou |
Think there's also a policy of doing away with business rates & having a delivery tax on online orders, which might help the high street. These ideas should boost small business which in turn will help create some economic growth. Maybe they'll cancel Labours stupid employers NI raise. Maybe they'll finally rid Councils of wastage? Didn't vote in the last Election. No idea if I will next time. |
I doubt a delivery tax on online orders will save the high street. It'll just raise some money through taxes because people are conditioned to buying online and enjoy the convenience. | |
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| Reform on 16:06 - May 3 with 307 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 13:45 - May 3 by leitrimblue |
We're 12 pages in, as anybody actually managed to explain any benefits of voting Reform or even outlined any of their policies that appeal to them yet? |
It shifts the debate of the “main parties” into an agenda that is a concern to millions of people. They better wake up, or they will be toast. | | | |
| Reform on 16:10 - May 3 with 293 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Reform on 23:26 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
Honestly, the responses to your very reasinable posts are unbelievable. These idiots pose stupid questions that have no answers. Reading the thread - Stokie Blue is one of the worst. Multiculturalism and immigration may be seen as a great success on Church Street, but take a walk through Ipswich and tell the poor beggers living in terraced housing in Ipswich that it's working well. Shocking heads up arrises attitudes from these morons |
Wow! |  |
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| Reform on 16:15 - May 3 with 268 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 14:18 - May 3 by positivity |
and paying for that how? just from taking money away from special needs? |
It takes 16 workers in £30k to contribute the same to the public purse as one worker on £200k. High tax and over regulation means many entrepreneurs and higher earners are leaving the U.K. Labour is a recipe for disaster | | | |
| Reform on 16:16 - May 3 with 262 views | positivity |
| Reform on 16:06 - May 3 by BlueRobin |
It shifts the debate of the “main parties” into an agenda that is a concern to millions of people. They better wake up, or they will be toast. |
that's not a policy or a benefit | |
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| Reform on 16:16 - May 3 with 261 views | BlueRobin |
Glad you agree with me | | | |
| Reform on 16:21 - May 3 with 242 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Reform on 16:15 - May 3 by BlueRobin |
It takes 16 workers in £30k to contribute the same to the public purse as one worker on £200k. High tax and over regulation means many entrepreneurs and higher earners are leaving the U.K. Labour is a recipe for disaster |
Not true though is it?
Unless you can find some decent reliable data on people leaving the uk and their reasons.
Also there are more than 16 people on 30 for every one on 200k.... [Post edited 3 May 16:22]
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| Reform on 16:26 - May 3 with 220 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 16:16 - May 3 by positivity |
that's not a policy or a benefit |
Of course it’s a benefit for those who voted Reform. Odd post | | | |
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