| Trump to re-open Alcatraz 08:42 - May 5 with 2544 views | blueasfook |
The island prison that famously held notorious gangster Al Capone, and was said to be inescapable - until Clint Eastwood escaped from it. Nuts!
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:44 - May 5 with 1965 views | Herbivore |
This is the kind of sensible, considered policy-making that we need from world leaders. |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:47 - May 5 with 1928 views | blueasfook |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:44 - May 5 by Herbivore |
This is the kind of sensible, considered policy-making that we need from world leaders. |
I don't mind if he dicks about with stuff in the US. Just keep out of world affairs please Don. | |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:52 - May 5 with 1879 views | Churchman |
I’ve visited it. Fascinating place. They reckon that there was nobody they couldn’t break in Alcatraz. It starts with a big sign ‘this is not a place of correction’ .
They ever used it for executions, though I’m sure the Donald would want to change that. As it goes, I very much doubt it’s anything more than Trump dribbling on with his latest stupid idea.
It cost way more than any other prison to maintain for obvious reasons and the sea air was literally eating away the integrity of the building. You’d have to rebuild it from scratch.
They’d be better off using it as a tourist attraction and using the money raised to build a cage somewhere else more sensible. How about Mar a Lago? |  | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:58 - May 5 with 1832 views | NthQldITFC |
I can't see Southampton being much of a threat next season if they let all their young players go off to the MLS. |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 10:16 - May 5 with 1650 views | Bluespeed225 |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:52 - May 5 by Churchman |
I’ve visited it. Fascinating place. They reckon that there was nobody they couldn’t break in Alcatraz. It starts with a big sign ‘this is not a place of correction’ .
They ever used it for executions, though I’m sure the Donald would want to change that. As it goes, I very much doubt it’s anything more than Trump dribbling on with his latest stupid idea.
It cost way more than any other prison to maintain for obvious reasons and the sea air was literally eating away the integrity of the building. You’d have to rebuild it from scratch.
They’d be better off using it as a tourist attraction and using the money raised to build a cage somewhere else more sensible. How about Mar a Lago? |
I visited back in the 90's. Am I right in reading they had nice warm showers so inmates didn't acclimatize to cold water which the island is surrounded by? |  | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 10:27 - May 5 with 1622 views | Churchman |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 10:16 - May 5 by Bluespeed225 |
I visited back in the 90's. Am I right in reading they had nice warm showers so inmates didn't acclimatize to cold water which the island is surrounded by? |
The bloke showing us round didn’t mention that.
I did volunteer to be shut in a solitary confinement/bad boy cell. Wasn’t nice. There was nothing in it bar a hole in the floor. No bed, light or anything else. It was all about sensory deprivation. The inmate was stripped and bunged in. Food went in and out through a cat flap and every so often the guard would poke a hose through and blast the bloke with cold water.
As far as the bay is concerned, yes the water is pretty cold but we were told the real killer was the currents. Your chances of surviving them were practically zero and tbf, when you are standing on Alcatraz, SF looks a heck of a long way away. Despite the film, escapees and myth, I seriously doubt anyone survived trying to swim it. | | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:03 - May 5 with 1580 views | Guthrum |
Didn't actually go to Alcatraz, but passed it on the boat back from Golden Gate. Wasn't there a problem with disease-carrying flies infesting the island? |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:14 - May 5 with 1550 views | hoppy |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:03 - May 5 by Guthrum |
Didn't actually go to Alcatraz, but passed it on the boat back from Golden Gate. Wasn't there a problem with disease-carrying flies infesting the island? |
Just because you were passing it? Doubt that was your fault, to be fair. |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:18 - May 5 with 1521 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:03 - May 5 by Guthrum |
Didn't actually go to Alcatraz, but passed it on the boat back from Golden Gate. Wasn't there a problem with disease-carrying flies infesting the island? |
Were they disease carrying?
Wasn't there something connecting an increasing fly nuisance with the (protected) cormorant rookeries established some time after the prison's closure?
What would I know? The closest I ever got to Alcatraz was Fisherman's Wharf (oh and the film Point Blank). |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:19 - May 5 with 1516 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 10:27 - May 5 by Churchman |
The bloke showing us round didn’t mention that.
I did volunteer to be shut in a solitary confinement/bad boy cell. Wasn’t nice. There was nothing in it bar a hole in the floor. No bed, light or anything else. It was all about sensory deprivation. The inmate was stripped and bunged in. Food went in and out through a cat flap and every so often the guard would poke a hose through and blast the bloke with cold water.
As far as the bay is concerned, yes the water is pretty cold but we were told the real killer was the currents. Your chances of surviving them were practically zero and tbf, when you are standing on Alcatraz, SF looks a heck of a long way away. Despite the film, escapees and myth, I seriously doubt anyone survived trying to swim it. |
You volunteered for that! I guess there are people who even pay for such experiences. Did you have a safe word or a set period time before they let you out again? I can understand why you switched to describing your experience to the third person. It must have been quite traumatic. |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:47 - May 5 with 1450 views | Churchman |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:19 - May 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You volunteered for that! I guess there are people who even pay for such experiences. Did you have a safe word or a set period time before they let you out again? I can understand why you switched to describing your experience to the third person. It must have been quite traumatic. |
I was only shut in I’d guess for a minute or so. No, no safe word or time limit. Didn’t really think about it but was glad to get out. It was 1992 and all very casual.
After the tour you could roam about the place at will until your time came up to hop back on the ferry. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been to be slammed in there for days on end utterly in control of other people.
The normal cells reminded me of a battery hen farm. In rows, one side faced the other. They were tiny barred and exposed. The guards were at the end of the rows behind wire and armed with guns.
An overriding memory was being told that just about everything was a privilege, including visiting, books, you name it.
The prison yard was as you see in the movies. If you got to the top step and jumped up and down, you could see the SF sky line. The whole place was designed for max misery. | | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:54 - May 5 with 1431 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:47 - May 5 by Churchman |
I was only shut in I’d guess for a minute or so. No, no safe word or time limit. Didn’t really think about it but was glad to get out. It was 1992 and all very casual.
After the tour you could roam about the place at will until your time came up to hop back on the ferry. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been to be slammed in there for days on end utterly in control of other people.
The normal cells reminded me of a battery hen farm. In rows, one side faced the other. They were tiny barred and exposed. The guards were at the end of the rows behind wire and armed with guns.
An overriding memory was being told that just about everything was a privilege, including visiting, books, you name it.
The prison yard was as you see in the movies. If you got to the top step and jumped up and down, you could see the SF sky line. The whole place was designed for max misery. |
Did well to cram all of these things being done to you into 1 minute. | |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 12:02 - May 5 with 1394 views | Horsham |
He does love a bit symbolism…pictures of deportees lining the White House drive, a concentration camp in El Salvador and now f’ing great prison where if you’ve got a telescope you’ll be able to make out the folk that have been chucked in there for burning a Tesla.
And people want this here.
Jesus wept. |  | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 12:26 - May 5 with 1344 views | Churchman |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:54 - May 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Did well to cram all of these things being done to you into 1 minute. |
Haha, I kept my clothes firmly on, didn’t try the food or the shower!! | | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 15:27 - May 5 with 1205 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 12:02 - May 5 by Horsham |
He does love a bit symbolism…pictures of deportees lining the White House drive, a concentration camp in El Salvador and now f’ing great prison where if you’ve got a telescope you’ll be able to make out the folk that have been chucked in there for burning a Tesla.
And people want this here.
Jesus wept. |
Symbolism of the worst kind too. Like removing a memorial under pressure of the NRA
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 15:35 - May 5 with 1190 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It won't happen.
Good tour though. |  | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:13 - May 5 with 1129 views | quirkie |
Visited last summer, fascinating place to visit.
Would cost billions to reopen as a prison, not going to happen, Trump just trolling the media again. |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:13 - May 5 with 1124 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:13 - May 5 by quirkie |
Visited last summer, fascinating place to visit.
Would cost billions to reopen as a prison, not going to happen, Trump just trolling the media again. |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:14 - May 5 with 1120 views | olimar |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:58 - May 5 by NthQldITFC |
I can't see Southampton being much of a threat next season if they let all their young players go off to the MLS. |
Didnt he play for Everton on saturday?! | | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:45 - May 5 with 1004 views | NthQldITFC |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 16:14 - May 5 by olimar |
Didnt he play for Everton on saturday?! |
Possibly. I'm well-known for not knowing my onions. | |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 17:13 - May 5 with 945 views | MattinLondon |
Had a quick glance at the title and thought it said ‘Trump to re-open Auschwitz’. |  | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 17:23 - May 5 with 917 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 08:44 - May 5 by Herbivore |
This is the kind of sensible, considered policy-making that we need from world leaders. |
Balls |  |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 17:33 - May 5 with 886 views | Blue_Heath |
The Anglin brothers might have something to say about that! | | | |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 17:53 - May 5 with 854 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 12:02 - May 5 by Horsham |
He does love a bit symbolism…pictures of deportees lining the White House drive, a concentration camp in El Salvador and now f’ing great prison where if you’ve got a telescope you’ll be able to make out the folk that have been chucked in there for burning a Tesla.
And people want this here.
Jesus wept. |
100%
It’s crackers that some people want to replicate Trump’s approach over here. You could write a thesis on why that would be bad for us all individually and for the country as a whole. | |
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| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 17:59 - May 5 with 829 views | ArmaghBlue |
| Trump to re-open Alcatraz on 11:47 - May 5 by Churchman |
I was only shut in I’d guess for a minute or so. No, no safe word or time limit. Didn’t really think about it but was glad to get out. It was 1992 and all very casual.
After the tour you could roam about the place at will until your time came up to hop back on the ferry. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been to be slammed in there for days on end utterly in control of other people.
The normal cells reminded me of a battery hen farm. In rows, one side faced the other. They were tiny barred and exposed. The guards were at the end of the rows behind wire and armed with guns.
An overriding memory was being told that just about everything was a privilege, including visiting, books, you name it.
The prison yard was as you see in the movies. If you got to the top step and jumped up and down, you could see the SF sky line. The whole place was designed for max misery. |
Did you sit on Clint Eastwood’s step? |  | | |
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