| US bombs Iran 00:54 - Jun 22 with 3812 views | Perublue |
Oh .... here we go.
Nuclear sites....3 of them |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 00:59 - Jun 22 with 2608 views | TresBonne |
The United States of Israel. What a shame the US has yet another president who is a Zionist cuck.
Surely can't be what his supporters voted for either? 'No More Wars'... |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 01:30 - Jun 22 with 2529 views | Mercian |
| US bombs Iran on 00:59 - Jun 22 by TresBonne |
The United States of Israel. What a shame the US has yet another president who is a Zionist cuck.
Surely can't be what his supporters voted for either? 'No More Wars'... |
To paraphrase Lord Varys.
"That man would happily see the world burn if he could rule over the ashes."
Where Varys was toying with hyperbole I don't think I am when I say Trump is possibly the biggest danger to civilisation we have ever witnessed. |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 03:35 - Jun 22 with 2389 views | Illinoisblue |
| US bombs Iran on 00:59 - Jun 22 by TresBonne |
The United States of Israel. What a shame the US has yet another president who is a Zionist cuck.
Surely can't be what his supporters voted for either? 'No More Wars'... |
It was interesting although not surprising to hear senator Ted Cruz say there’s a verse in the Bible that commands him to support Israel. That this happens in the year 2025 and millions of Americans don’t see it as strange tells you a lot about this country. |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 04:02 - Jun 22 with 2353 views | JackNorthStand |
| US bombs Iran on 03:35 - Jun 22 by Illinoisblue |
It was interesting although not surprising to hear senator Ted Cruz say there’s a verse in the Bible that commands him to support Israel. That this happens in the year 2025 and millions of Americans don’t see it as strange tells you a lot about this country. |
The Tucker Carlson interview was brilliant from a spectator point of view. Tucker Carlson, even looked dumbfounded at majority of Ted Cruzs responses. |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 05:15 - Jun 22 with 2295 views | Pippin1970 |
Hopefully Britain doesn't follow suit, but we always seem to follow USA everywhere. | | | |
| US bombs Iran on 05:33 - Jun 22 with 2271 views | Churchman |
| US bombs Iran on 05:15 - Jun 22 by Pippin1970 |
Hopefully Britain doesn't follow suit, but we always seem to follow USA everywhere. |
We may be forced to but I hope we don’t. It’s time we pursued our own interests, not America’s.
Trump has made it clear that NATO is for all intents and purposes dead and it’s now America first. This authoritarian state has no other objectives.
Shame our military has been and continues to be left so weak.
Edit: I’ve no problem with a maniac regime like Iran’s being denied nuclear capability btw. I just don’t think it’s stoppable now. Every rogue state will possess that capability in time, sadly. [Post edited 22 Jun 5:39]
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| US bombs Iran on 06:24 - Jun 22 with 2192 views | BlueNomad |
| US bombs Iran on 05:15 - Jun 22 by Pippin1970 |
Hopefully Britain doesn't follow suit, but we always seem to follow USA everywhere. |
In the past we would have been told, within hours, that the UK was involved in / supported the operation. I have a feeling we won’t this time. Not sure Starmer would follow unquestioningly like his predecessors. He appears to be closer to France and Germany than this US administration / clown show. |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 07:36 - Jun 22 with 1965 views | chicoazul |
| US bombs Iran on 01:30 - Jun 22 by Mercian |
To paraphrase Lord Varys.
"That man would happily see the world burn if he could rule over the ashes."
Where Varys was toying with hyperbole I don't think I am when I say Trump is possibly the biggest danger to civilisation we have ever witnessed. |
More dangerous than a Mullah with a nuclear bomb? I don’t think so. |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 08:02 - Jun 22 with 1849 views | homer_123 |
Iran's response is going to be interesting to say the least.
My fear is that this intensifies the Israel/Iran war or at the very least takes in a different direction but I don't see this deescalating quickly. The fact that this could destabilise neighbouring states or drag them in as well, doesn't bode well.
This feels a bit of a 'Red Line' rest doesn't it? In the fact that the US now seems quite happy to get involved militarily to stop nuclear proliferation, especially outside a multilateral framework. What implications does this have for North Korea etc.
What a mess. |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 08:14 - Jun 22 with 1788 views | RegencyBlue |
| US bombs Iran on 08:02 - Jun 22 by homer_123 |
Iran's response is going to be interesting to say the least.
My fear is that this intensifies the Israel/Iran war or at the very least takes in a different direction but I don't see this deescalating quickly. The fact that this could destabilise neighbouring states or drag them in as well, doesn't bode well.
This feels a bit of a 'Red Line' rest doesn't it? In the fact that the US now seems quite happy to get involved militarily to stop nuclear proliferation, especially outside a multilateral framework. What implications does this have for North Korea etc.
What a mess. |
I don’t think it has any implications for North Korea, they already have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them!
Allowing a regime like that to obtain the bomb was a mistake from a US perspective, which they clearly don’t intend to repeat. |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 08:47 - Jun 22 with 1631 views | ElderGrizzly |
Trump saying sites were obliterated, Iran saying they weren’t.
More important is IAEA saying no spikes in radiation which you’d expect with the extensive damage Trump is saying has happened.
Also the other line from Iran is they said they moved all their Uranium weeks ago.
Someone lying and it is probably both of them to some degree. |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 08:47 - Jun 22 with 1613 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
What is it that Starmer seems to enjoy so much about bending over for the pleasure of right wing Sociopaths? |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 08:50 - Jun 22 with 1597 views | ElderGrizzly |
| US bombs Iran on 05:33 - Jun 22 by Churchman |
We may be forced to but I hope we don’t. It’s time we pursued our own interests, not America’s.
Trump has made it clear that NATO is for all intents and purposes dead and it’s now America first. This authoritarian state has no other objectives.
Shame our military has been and continues to be left so weak.
Edit: I’ve no problem with a maniac regime like Iran’s being denied nuclear capability btw. I just don’t think it’s stoppable now. Every rogue state will possess that capability in time, sadly. [Post edited 22 Jun 5:39]
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Trump’s other issue, not that he’ll care is he has broken the law to bomb Iran.
Both international law and US domestic law which mandates Congress is the only place that can approve this, not the Presidency by itself | | | |
| US bombs Iran on 08:52 - Jun 22 with 1572 views | tonybied |
| US bombs Iran on 08:50 - Jun 22 by ElderGrizzly |
Trump’s other issue, not that he’ll care is he has broken the law to bomb Iran.
Both international law and US domestic law which mandates Congress is the only place that can approve this, not the Presidency by itself |
It's not a dictatorship though! |  | | |
| US bombs Iran on 09:02 - Jun 22 with 1507 views | DJR |
| US bombs Iran on 06:24 - Jun 22 by BlueNomad |
In the past we would have been told, within hours, that the UK was involved in / supported the operation. I have a feeling we won’t this time. Not sure Starmer would follow unquestioningly like his predecessors. He appears to be closer to France and Germany than this US administration / clown show. |
To be fair to Starmer, and the Attorney General (who is Jewish), they are both sticklers for the law. Indeed, there are reports that the Attorney General has advised against UK involvement.
My view is that the attacks on Iran cannot be justified as pre-emptive self-defence under international law, and Philip Sands takes the same view.
https://observer.co.uk/news/international/article/philippe-sands-international-l
I have also seen an international lawyer argue that the US (and by analogy the UK) could not in any event justify involvement on pre-emptive self-defence grounds because the US isn't in danger of attack. Don't forget that before the Iraq war, we were incorrectly told that London was only 45 minutes from a possible attack in order to justify the action. [Post edited 22 Jun 9:04]
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| US bombs Iran on 09:09 - Jun 22 with 1438 views | J2BLUE |
| US bombs Iran on 08:47 - Jun 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What is it that Starmer seems to enjoy so much about bending over for the pleasure of right wing Sociopaths? |
We weren't involved were we? They didn't even ask to use our air base? |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 09:09 - Jun 22 with 1439 views | NthQldITFC |
Utterly unimportant, but I can't believe the number of journalists and politicians who can't say "Nu-cle-ar". |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 09:13 - Jun 22 with 1406 views | StokieBlue |
| US bombs Iran on 08:02 - Jun 22 by homer_123 |
Iran's response is going to be interesting to say the least.
My fear is that this intensifies the Israel/Iran war or at the very least takes in a different direction but I don't see this deescalating quickly. The fact that this could destabilise neighbouring states or drag them in as well, doesn't bode well.
This feels a bit of a 'Red Line' rest doesn't it? In the fact that the US now seems quite happy to get involved militarily to stop nuclear proliferation, especially outside a multilateral framework. What implications does this have for North Korea etc.
What a mess. |
They might have stopped Iran from getting a bomb but it still has plenty of enriched uranium it could use in dirty bombs.
With Trump now saying he will bomb them into peace it's hard to know what they will do.
Some of the responses from Republican's are quite extraordinary as has been highlighted. The Democrats and some Republicans are rightly pointing out that it's unconstitutional to use military force without consulting Congress.
All this from a President who campaigned on a ticket of no more foreign intervention and who seems to be acting in ever increasing unilateral ways in order to sidestep historic governmental checks and balances.
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| US bombs Iran on 09:15 - Jun 22 with 1399 views | Pinewoodblue |
| US bombs Iran on 09:02 - Jun 22 by DJR |
To be fair to Starmer, and the Attorney General (who is Jewish), they are both sticklers for the law. Indeed, there are reports that the Attorney General has advised against UK involvement.
My view is that the attacks on Iran cannot be justified as pre-emptive self-defence under international law, and Philip Sands takes the same view.
https://observer.co.uk/news/international/article/philippe-sands-international-l
I have also seen an international lawyer argue that the US (and by analogy the UK) could not in any event justify involvement on pre-emptive self-defence grounds because the US isn't in danger of attack. Don't forget that before the Iraq war, we were incorrectly told that London was only 45 minutes from a possible attack in order to justify the action. [Post edited 22 Jun 9:04]
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Is it reasonable to assume that Diego Garcia was not used by USAF, would have expected Starmer to comment one way or the other.
I always thought the checks & balances built into the US constitution would stop something like this happening. If congress do nothing we are heading down a slippery slope. |  |
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| US bombs Iran on 09:23 - Jun 22 with 1340 views | DJR |
| US bombs Iran on 09:15 - Jun 22 by Pinewoodblue |
Is it reasonable to assume that Diego Garcia was not used by USAF, would have expected Starmer to comment one way or the other.
I always thought the checks & balances built into the US constitution would stop something like this happening. If congress do nothing we are heading down a slippery slope. |
That seems a reasonable assumption. The reports I have seen suggested B-2 bombers were moved to Guam in advance of the attack. | | | |
| US bombs Iran on 09:29 - Jun 22 with 1276 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| US bombs Iran on 09:09 - Jun 22 by J2BLUE |
We weren't involved were we? They didn't even ask to use our air base? |
But he is supporting the weapons of mass distraction story line about Iran's imminent acquisition of a nuclear weapon despite all the evidence against it!
I think the Iranian regime will now be a whole lot keener on making sure they do. Might is right!! | |
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| US bombs Iran on 09:30 - Jun 22 with 1246 views | redrickstuhaart |
| US bombs Iran on 09:29 - Jun 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
But he is supporting the weapons of mass distraction story line about Iran's imminent acquisition of a nuclear weapon despite all the evidence against it!
I think the Iranian regime will now be a whole lot keener on making sure they do. Might is right!! |
Is he?
Quotes please! | | | |
| US bombs Iran on 09:32 - Jun 22 with 1213 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
In a statement, Sir Keir said: "Iran's nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security.
"Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon, and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat.
Edit...pants well and truly around his ankles. [Post edited 22 Jun 9:34]
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| US bombs Iran on 09:36 - Jun 22 with 1182 views | redrickstuhaart |
| US bombs Iran on 09:32 - Jun 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
In a statement, Sir Keir said: "Iran's nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security.
"Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon, and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat.
Edit...pants well and truly around his ankles. [Post edited 22 Jun 9:34]
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They do have a nuclear programme and it is plainly a threat if weaponised.
He hasn't, it would appear, made the assertions that Trump et al have about imminent threat.
I Do have an issue with the tacit acceptanc eof US actions in that quote. Not in my name Kier. | | | |
| US bombs Iran on 09:41 - Jun 22 with 1132 views | StokieBlue |
| US bombs Iran on 07:36 - Jun 22 by chicoazul |
More dangerous than a Mullah with a nuclear bomb? I don’t think so. |
His destruction of US democracy could be the most dangerous thing to happen in the world.
The fact he is ignoring the checks and balances inbuilt in the constitution and acting in a unilateral manner across all policy areas is a very deep concern. The fact he threatens the judiciary when they state his actions are unconstitutional is a huge concern. It's at the point where it would be surprising if he doesn't try and make a play for a 3rd term in a few years time.
Let's not forget, his own intelligence services said Iran weren't trying to construct a bomb. This attack is part of the Netanyahu strategy of prolonging or escalate conflicts to remain in power, you can see how pleased he is with this action from his statements.
If anything it's only going to push Iran to try and get a bomb quicker, it worked for North Korea, you don't hear much about them now and they are just left to get on with it given they have a nuclear capability.
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