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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? 22:13 - Jul 24 with 2964 viewsringwoodblue

Considering how much Morsy has contributed to the club, how much he could still contribute this season and next and how much he is loved by the fans, why couldn’t the club offer him a two-year deal to keep him?

We are happy to offer a 40 yr old a one year deal but not a 35 yr old a two year deal. It all seems very strange to me and I think it will come back to bite us.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:15 - Jul 24 with 2778 viewsFrimleyBlue

Maybe cause the club didn't see it financially viable with the players they want to bring in esp if morsy was to become a bit part player.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:27 - Jul 24 with 2626 viewsWeirdFishes

Why would he want to if he’s being offered £100k a week in Kuwait?

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:29 - Jul 24 with 2581 viewssuffolkpoker

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:27 - Jul 24 by WeirdFishes

Why would he want to if he’s being offered £100k a week in Kuwait?


£100k there is like £200k here… he fully deserves every penny as far as I’m concerned.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:34 - Jul 24 with 2522 viewsWeirdFishes

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:29 - Jul 24 by suffolkpoker

£100k there is like £200k here… he fully deserves every penny as far as I’m concerned.


For all he’s done for us there’s no way you can stand in his way when offered it. Devastated he’s gone but happy for him.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:43 - Jul 24 with 2450 viewsbsw72

Im pleased for Morsy and also think the club made the right decision.

Last season Morsy did well but his shortfalls were exposed, he went from being the first name on the team sheet to the bench. His performances were brought into question on here, something which would have been unthinkable in the prior couple of years.

It’s probably not a popular opinion but I think we were lucky enough to get the best out of him in the 23-24 Championship campaign and he was not going to achieve that level again.

Don’t be sad it’s over, be happy it happened.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:53 - Jul 24 with 2334 viewsTractorWood

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:29 - Jul 24 by suffolkpoker

£100k there is like £200k here… he fully deserves every penny as far as I’m concerned.


8-10% tax. It's an absolute no brainer.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 23:22 - Jul 24 with 2189 viewsGarv

I agree. I think the positives he brings outweighs the outlay he would cost, especially considering we're letting him go for free.

Obviously an extra year would cost more than the fee we might have got, but during a period of relative upheaval it's a gut punch to be losing him. A lot of pressure on Matusiwa.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 23:50 - Jul 24 with 2066 viewsFelixBlue4

I think while we don’t understand the politics of deals it’s a good selling point to new targets that we let them move on if it’s right for the player and club. It might be the difference between signing a player and not.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 23:55 - Jul 24 with 2040 viewsArnieM

I wish him nothing but the best. Total legend IMHO

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 01:45 - Jul 25 with 1904 viewsmutters

They probably did discuss it, but the opportunity to finish his career off earning a bucket load of money in a Muslim country was way too much to offset by town.

What I really like here is how Town have let him go abroad for free. Class move and shows respect, which he deserves

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 06:11 - Jul 25 with 1657 viewslurcher

There is no room for sentiment, he was poor in the Premier league and it was quite clear he was only going to be a reserve going forward. We needed a new Captain, someone in the first 11, week in week out. It really doesn't work keeping the old captain about in those circumstances. Far better to move the old captain on and give the new one the full focus of the squad, hence no extension to his deal. Sam for his part didn't want to see out his final year as a fake squad captain. We have looked after him letting him move on for free. The whole situation has been handled very professionally. Ashley Young at 40 is still a far better player than Morsy.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 06:19 - Jul 25 with 1609 viewsfranz_tyson

I'd be more than happy that Morsy be a starter, but if he's been told we're signing at least two players who will be first choice in front of him.... then that's not the worst case scenario for us.
So now it's up to our recruitment team to get at least one more decent CM replacement. If they can't... then it's a bad move for us and maybe we should have let him see out his contract or got him a new deal. Time will tell if we did the right thing.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 07:02 - Jul 25 with 1437 viewsChurchman

I hoped he’d stay. I thought he had another Championship season in him. But all good things come to an end and given that he’s been offered a tidy sum to go to Kuwait I think it right he move on with everyone’s best wishes.

I also notice with Sam that the longest he’s stayed at a club is about four years. Sometimes some people need a ‘refresh’, whatever they do work wise in life.

Lastly from the club’s perspective I don’t think a two year deal would have been the right thing to do. If we are settling for Evans-style mediocrity, fine, but if the club is serious about getting out of this division at the right end, I don’t think Sam could have done another season in the Premier League.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 07:05 - Jul 25 with 1418 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

Absolutely everything the players do in matches and training is recorded - how far they run, how fast they accelerate, their heart rate and how hard they are working etc.
My guess is that there were signs that Sam has peaked. I'm sure he'd be great for another season in the Championship. But the aim clearly is promotion, and if we make it, a 2 year contract would mean having him contracted to us on a high wage but with all the stats indicating that he just wouldn't make the grade in the PL in 26/27. Hence why they were happy to have him for one more season, but not two. Imho.

Love Sam to bits. But I understand why this is how it turned out.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 08:48 - Jul 25 with 1110 viewsGuthrum

Would our two year deal outbid what Kuwait SC were putting on the table, particularly in the area of wages and benefits?

In any case, if we want a managed transition in midfield, then at some point we have to trade Morsy for someone else.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 08:54 - Jul 25 with 1067 viewsWickets

As we don't know the finances involved in either deal it's impossible to make a judgement. I suspect Sam's agent got him a big offer that we simply could or would not match .We have to trust the club on this one.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 09:17 - Jul 25 with 938 viewsBlue_Heath

I think there is very much two sides to the story. From our point of view assuming we go back up he's not going to playing PL football in 26/27 and I think we are on a continual strive to try and improve the squad (albeit lack of incomings a slight worry at this moment in time). From his POV he's likely peaked in this country as a footballer with back to back and playing PL football having been a boro reserve 4 years ago. For him and his family I totally get it.

It's been a wonderful partnership but all good things come to an end. Dara got big boots to fill and likewise any incoming CM's. TBH I think this is the right thing for all concerned. Had he been a few years older maybe a player/coach role would have been offered?
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 09:30 - Jul 25 with 868 viewsOldFart71

I think there are one or two reasons for Morsy not being given a two year deal.
He would be on a decent contract and a two year deal could quite possibly include another season in the Premier League which he obviously wasn't good enough as was most of our midfield.
I know people will say Young is older so why give him a one year deal and yes he will also be on good money. But his position on the field is for fullback cover alternating between one of the other two.
Sam would at his age require a decent two year deal. I think had he only wanted a one year deal maybe he would have been offered it. But from his point of view being around 35 he would for the sake of his family require a minimum of two years.
I wish him all the best and a big thanks.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 09:34 - Jul 25 with 819 viewsBobbychase

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:43 - Jul 24 by bsw72

Im pleased for Morsy and also think the club made the right decision.

Last season Morsy did well but his shortfalls were exposed, he went from being the first name on the team sheet to the bench. His performances were brought into question on here, something which would have been unthinkable in the prior couple of years.

It’s probably not a popular opinion but I think we were lucky enough to get the best out of him in the 23-24 Championship campaign and he was not going to achieve that level again.

Don’t be sad it’s over, be happy it happened.
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Spot on, every word. We can't be ruled by sentiment, and give someone a two-year deal if we know that - should things go well and we get promoted - he will be another year older and a yard slower having already struggled a bit in the Prem.

I'm gutted we won't get to say a proper goodbye but he has earned this one last payday and it's a nice move not to stand in his way I think.

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:23 - Jul 25 with 680 viewsrgk1

Because IF we get back to the premier league, do we really need a 35 yr old cm who already proved that hes probably not good enough to hold his own in the top division
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:24 - Jul 25 with 672 viewscbower

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 06:11 - Jul 25 by lurcher

There is no room for sentiment, he was poor in the Premier league and it was quite clear he was only going to be a reserve going forward. We needed a new Captain, someone in the first 11, week in week out. It really doesn't work keeping the old captain about in those circumstances. Far better to move the old captain on and give the new one the full focus of the squad, hence no extension to his deal. Sam for his part didn't want to see out his final year as a fake squad captain. We have looked after him letting him move on for free. The whole situation has been handled very professionally. Ashley Young at 40 is still a far better player than Morsy.
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Poor in the Premier League ? The whole team was outgunned, not just Morsy. In fact, I'd struggle to name 5 of our squad who were better than Samy last season. O'Shea, Cajuste, Delap........who else?

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:43 - Jul 25 with 600 viewsBluedandy

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:24 - Jul 25 by cbower

Poor in the Premier League ? The whole team was outgunned, not just Morsy. In fact, I'd struggle to name 5 of our squad who were better than Samy last season. O'Shea, Cajuste, Delap........who else?


We were really poor, amassed less points at home than Derby in 2008 .

If we go up, the squad needs to be radically stronger in every department to survive.

Sam Morsy is a club legend, an inspirational leader who was pivotal to our promotions.

But there's no way, nearing 35 next year, that he'd be good enough for the Premier League.

That's why he wasn't offered a contract extension.
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:54 - Jul 25 with 554 viewsPrideOfTheEast

He probably wanted parity with our top earners which whilst I agree he’s been exceptional for us, doesn’t necessarily make sense for someone that is likely to start less than half the games?

He’d have been very useful this year across the 50 games and I’m disappointed he’s gone tbh but hard to argue with a purely business outlook.

That said, we do need to get several in!
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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 11:02 - Jul 25 with 514 viewscbower

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 10:43 - Jul 25 by Bluedandy

We were really poor, amassed less points at home than Derby in 2008 .

If we go up, the squad needs to be radically stronger in every department to survive.

Sam Morsy is a club legend, an inspirational leader who was pivotal to our promotions.

But there's no way, nearing 35 next year, that he'd be good enough for the Premier League.

That's why he wasn't offered a contract extension.


I agree with you actually. A new contract was not really in the club's best interest. My point was to say Morsy was "poor" in the Premier League needed context. If Samy was poor, then 80% of the squad were worse than poor weren't they ?

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Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 11:10 - Jul 25 with 478 viewsLion

Why didn’t the club offer Morsy a two year deal? on 22:34 - Jul 24 by WeirdFishes

For all he’s done for us there’s no way you can stand in his way when offered it. Devastated he’s gone but happy for him.


Absolutely 100 per cent spot on. I also think in this heavily commercialised world ( we all know it's long ago ceased to be a ' game ' and is a business ) the club has shown a hell of a lot of class in letting him go for free.

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