| Sarina Wiegman 16:01 - Jul 30 with 2683 views | bluelagos |
Done a brilliant job with the Lionesses and before that with the Dutch national side. I think Spain had better players, but her motivational and organisational skills paid triumphantly,
Appreciate the women's game isn't at the same level as the mens - but as a manager - surely some club will take a punt at some point?
Jose, Wenger, McKenna - plenty of high achieving managers didn't play at the top of the men's game, so can't really see why she couldn't be a success.
What level do you think might take a punt? If clubs give people like Pullis, Allardice and McCarthy a go, why not Wiegman?
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| Sarina Wiegman on 16:07 - Jul 30 with 2053 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
Don’t see why she’d be interested tbh. She’s ranked amongst the top 2-3 managers in the women’s game and could get any job she wanted. What does she have to gain by switching to the men’s game? |  | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:09 - Jul 30 with 2035 views | PrideOfTheEast |
The respective games are quite different though aren't they, which would be a significant risk to success? I suspect that is why nobody has done it to date. | | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:12 - Jul 30 with 2003 views | Radlett_blue |
About as logical as giving your successful U16 coach a go.
Women's international football isn't hugely competitive, with only a few countries having a decent player base & full time professional leagues so weighing up her achievements is hard. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 16:34 - Jul 30 with 1889 views | J2BLUE |
I don't think any club will give her the manager job for the men's team. When Emma Hayes was being linked with jobs in the men's it was clubs like AFC Wimbledon which was an insult really.
Wiegman should be getting a Conference league job in the men's game at least and I just can't see it happening. A league one offer would be pretty insulting. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 16:39 - Jul 30 with 1832 views | lowhouseblue |
i'm a fan of top level women's football - it's entertaining and the level technically is now very good. but men and women's football are two different sports. i'm not sure the skills are transferable. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 16:45 - Jul 30 with 1801 views | mutters |
Was having this conversation this morning with a friend.
She has done a fantastic job with the Lionesses, and there must surely be a club out there that would be interested in her. Whether it is at the level she probably deserves, I suspect not. The women's game is very different to the men's. I always equate it to tennis, same rules but very different in style and approach, coaching is different, playing style is different, you are working with a different skill set. I imagine over the next 20+ years, the gap will converge from a technical point of view, but the physicality will remain.
However, if she were supported with decent coaches and was in a more managerial role (not so much on the training field), then I can see her fitting into the right club. It would be great to see, as there really isn't a reason why a female can't manage a top club aside from experience, which over time will recede. Once the mould is broken, then it could easily become commonplace, especailly as more and more women learn the ins and outs of the mens game. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 16:52 - Jul 30 with 1731 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:34 - Jul 30 by J2BLUE |
I don't think any club will give her the manager job for the men's team. When Emma Hayes was being linked with jobs in the men's it was clubs like AFC Wimbledon which was an insult really.
Wiegman should be getting a Conference league job in the men's game at least and I just can't see it happening. A league one offer would be pretty insulting. |
So Crystal Palace? | | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:25 - Jul 30 with 1629 views | OldFart71 |
Could be interesting if she walked into the mens changing room and said to one of England's defenders " I'd like to see your tackle" | | | |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 17:31 - Jul 30 with 1573 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:12 - Jul 30 by Radlett_blue |
About as logical as giving your successful U16 coach a go.
Women's international football isn't hugely competitive, with only a few countries having a decent player base & full time professional leagues so weighing up her achievements is hard. |
Hasn't Phil Neville got a job somewhere and he was pretty hopeless with the women's team
Even Joey Barton got a job
Bit of old thinking in your answer I reckon |  | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:32 - Jul 30 with 1568 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:45 - Jul 30 by mutters |
Was having this conversation this morning with a friend.
She has done a fantastic job with the Lionesses, and there must surely be a club out there that would be interested in her. Whether it is at the level she probably deserves, I suspect not. The women's game is very different to the men's. I always equate it to tennis, same rules but very different in style and approach, coaching is different, playing style is different, you are working with a different skill set. I imagine over the next 20+ years, the gap will converge from a technical point of view, but the physicality will remain.
However, if she were supported with decent coaches and was in a more managerial role (not so much on the training field), then I can see her fitting into the right club. It would be great to see, as there really isn't a reason why a female can't manage a top club aside from experience, which over time will recede. Once the mould is broken, then it could easily become commonplace, especailly as more and more women learn the ins and outs of the mens game. |
Didn't Andy Murray have a female coach? | | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:35 - Jul 30 with 1549 views | Vic |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:39 - Jul 30 by lowhouseblue |
i'm a fan of top level women's football - it's entertaining and the level technically is now very good. but men and women's football are two different sports. i'm not sure the skills are transferable. |
In what way not trasferable Lowy? |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 17:39 - Jul 30 with 1517 views | MattinLondon |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:39 - Jul 30 by lowhouseblue |
i'm a fan of top level women's football - it's entertaining and the level technically is now very good. but men and women's football are two different sports. i'm not sure the skills are transferable. |
If a man can manage in the women’s game I don’t see no reason why it can’t be the other way round. And if Sarina Wiegman happened to be a man, I think that they would be linked with jobs within the men’s game.
A few years ago Emma Hayes was linked with a L2 club which she called an insult but it really wasn’t - the level of pressure and ruthlessness at that level exceeds women’s football.
I do think that women will manage in the men’s game and this can only be a good thing - a bit like non-players becoming managers. Anything which limits the old boys riding the managerial rollercoaster can only be a good thing. |  | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:41 - Jul 30 with 1505 views | NedPlimpton |
| Sarina Wiegman on 16:07 - Jul 30 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Don’t see why she’d be interested tbh. She’s ranked amongst the top 2-3 managers in the women’s game and could get any job she wanted. What does she have to gain by switching to the men’s game? |
Money
She's on around £400k a year which is lower than most managers in the championship I'd imagine
Also imagine if she was successful in the men's game. The kudos for being the first female manager (ignoring the forest green pre-season tempt manager) and potentially proving a lot of people wrong would be pretty satisfying |  | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:44 - Jul 30 with 1476 views | lowhouseblue |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:35 - Jul 30 by Vic |
In what way not trasferable Lowy? |
the men's game emphasises speed and physicality in a way that is quite different from the women's game. there isn't the same time or space. that makes it tactically different and to an extent you're looking for different attributes in players. i don't think knowledge of the women's game gives you the same knowledge of the men's game - the two aren't played the same way. | |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 17:47 - Jul 30 with 1462 views | WeirdFishes |
Appointing a manager is such a huge thing for clubs they can’t afford to ‘take a punt’ so much these days.
My feeling is that the women’s game is probably in quality somewhere around the men’s U16 level and it’s unusual for a club that matches her profile/reputation would give a job to someone with that level of experience.
I don’t mean that to be insulting towards the women’s game or women’s coaches in general, I’d say the same for the Arsenal women’s coach.
I think if we’re to see more women in coaching and management roles in the men’s game they need to be integrated into set ups much earlier, like McKenna was for example.
The former players that are men have an unfair advantage in that they have been able to play and experience the game first hand so a fast-track pathway for women I think would be a good idea. |  |
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| That bloke at..... on 17:52 - Jul 30 with 1418 views | Bloots |
...Forest Green Rovers would probably give her a go, just for the publicity. He's already pretended to give a woman the job once.
But I can't see anyone else doing it. |  |
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| That bloke at..... on 17:57 - Jul 30 with 1373 views | giant_stow |
| That bloke at..... on 17:52 - Jul 30 by Bloots |
...Forest Green Rovers would probably give her a go, just for the publicity. He's already pretended to give a woman the job once.
But I can't see anyone else doing it. |
Cherry Lungi did well. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 17:57 - Jul 30 with 1362 views | glasso |
I think she could... but who would take that punt? I don't think many owners are that brave, especially when the stakes are so high. Can't really see how that bridge is crossed without either a manager like Wiegman taking a job way below her station and working her way up, paving the way for people behind her, or if she took an assistant role first and got her foot in the door.
I can't see her - or any successful women's boss - doing that, so I'd be surprised if we saw a woman managing a men's team in the next decade or so. | | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 18:20 - Jul 30 with 1245 views | Radlett_blue |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:31 - Jul 30 by reusersfreekicks |
Hasn't Phil Neville got a job somewhere and he was pretty hopeless with the women's team
Even Joey Barton got a job
Bit of old thinking in your answer I reckon |
Phil Neville wasn't a successful coach of England Women & also hasn't done very well as a coach in America. He probably isn't a great coach but plenty of PL footballers seem to get jobs on the basis of their playing career e.g. Wayne Rooney, which is very irrational. | |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 18:31 - Jul 30 with 1200 views | MattinLondon |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:44 - Jul 30 by lowhouseblue |
the men's game emphasises speed and physicality in a way that is quite different from the women's game. there isn't the same time or space. that makes it tactically different and to an extent you're looking for different attributes in players. i don't think knowledge of the women's game gives you the same knowledge of the men's game - the two aren't played the same way. |
The men’s game is littered with male managers and coaches who often display very little tactical awareness or understanding of the game.
Joking aside, a good coach will be able to adapt their game according to what players they have. A good female coach will be able to see what she has and take it from there. I’m pretty sure that many managers in the WSL also follow the men’s game and know what is needed in order to survive there. | | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 18:39 - Jul 30 with 1159 views | lowhouseblue |
| Sarina Wiegman on 18:31 - Jul 30 by MattinLondon |
The men’s game is littered with male managers and coaches who often display very little tactical awareness or understanding of the game.
Joking aside, a good coach will be able to adapt their game according to what players they have. A good female coach will be able to see what she has and take it from there. I’m pretty sure that many managers in the WSL also follow the men’s game and know what is needed in order to survive there. |
"know what is needed in order to survive there"
quite possibly. but if they are competing against people who have had their whole career in the men's game, and have coached and assisted in that setting, i know who almost all clubs will choose. for what it's worth i also think that fewer male coaches will go into the women's game as senior pros there move up into management. | |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 19:03 - Jul 30 with 1085 views | blueasfook |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 19:20 - Jul 30 with 1020 views | Swansea_Blue |
No reason at all why a female manager couldn’t do the job. Whether she’d be given the chance to is a different matter. The men’s game is still deeply patriarchal and chauvinistic. You do get some female CEOs now, and a few officials, but they’re still very rare. But there’s absolutely no reason why men should be particularly predisposed towards the characteristics that define good leaders. Also on the tactics side, the game is the same just played at lower intensity by the women, so there’s no logical reason for not having female coaches either. |  |
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| Sarina Wiegman on 20:33 - Jul 30 with 905 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Sarina Wiegman on 17:25 - Jul 30 by OldFart71 |
Could be interesting if she walked into the mens changing room and said to one of England's defenders " I'd like to see your tackle" |
Congrats, that is an excelkent jokette. |  | | |
| Sarina Wiegman on 21:38 - Jul 30 with 814 views | bluelagos |
| Sarina Wiegman on 19:20 - Jul 30 by Swansea_Blue |
No reason at all why a female manager couldn’t do the job. Whether she’d be given the chance to is a different matter. The men’s game is still deeply patriarchal and chauvinistic. You do get some female CEOs now, and a few officials, but they’re still very rare. But there’s absolutely no reason why men should be particularly predisposed towards the characteristics that define good leaders. Also on the tactics side, the game is the same just played at lower intensity by the women, so there’s no logical reason for not having female coaches either. |
You sum it up very well Swansea. Amazing how ingrained people's prejudices are. | |
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