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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced 22:00 - Aug 9 with 6631 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anyways, hopefully this week we will have news on 3 incoming and 3 outgoings. That's my prediction.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:34 - Aug 10 with 1897 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 06:42 - Aug 10 by FrimleyBlue

I don't see it as a case of who we could have signed since march, but being down the line with options as MA mentioned along the way

Thing is, I get the whole bedsheet thing, this isnt footy manager etc. But there's definately no way KM is happy with the current situation, so imo if the manager is frustrated but can't really publically show it, why is it then wrong for a fanbase to discuss it's own frustrations about it all. Do we think Ashton replies to KM everyday saying " it's not football manager"


It’s all well and good being ‘down the line with options’ in March - which basically means we’ve identified targets - this can be done very early, but that doesn’t mean any progress has been made other than producing a prioritised list.

I’m sure we all get frustrated when things don’t go our way - often for reasons outside of our control I’m sure KmK is frustrated that everything hasn’t lined up and concluded quickly. I’m also sure that Ashton and the entire recruitment team is frustrated because it’s not moved more rapidly.

Why would Ashton tell KmK ‘it’s football manager’ - he’s smart enough to know without being told. He’s also smart enough to know that much of the delay is likely to be out of the club’s control, and that in itself is frustrating.

People are creating a narrative of friction and frustration between KmK and Ashton with little to substantiate this. Maybe there is, or maybe - and possibly more likely - there is frustration amongst everyone in the club of things outside of their control, make the process drag on.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:40 - Aug 10 with 1831 viewsmelbs_itfc

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 07:47 - Aug 10 by Weekender

What you say is a logical interpretation but there are other ways of looking at it. We are all speculating based on limited knowledge which is of course what fans do.

Taking a post by Rommers at face value Hackney was happy with us but not sure about transferring at another club in the championship. Perhaps he travelled to have a look and a discussion to help make up his mind? Ultimately he decided to stay at Boro, at least for now.

Did Cajuste want to join 2 months ago or is what he said just usual PR now he’s here?

It may be easy to perceive the window as odd but in reality is it? Ii doubt we now 10% of what goes on behind the scenes.
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Hackney may have got the tour when he was in Ipswich, but the real question is did they show him the broom cupboard with the staircase that leads to nowhere?! Maybe that would have sealed the deal. We will never know now (sigh).
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:41 - Aug 10 with 1829 viewsWD19

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 22:32 - Aug 9 by FrimleyBlue

Obv got to trust them

But if the rumours are true that axel. Burgess. Morsy etc all wanted to stay but we didn't play ball. It does make you wonder how we go about negotiations and if we play hardball to much.

We hear alot from KM who used ashtons favourite phrase of protecting the interest of the club. The future etc.. which of course is what we want.. but at what cost in the process.


Too

…and stop making stuff up.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:44 - Aug 10 with 1800 viewsGuthrum

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 23:03 - Aug 9 by SitfcB

Was surprised by McKenna’s ‘all parties’ comments, like, if all parties were that keen surely it would all be done by now?
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That can be true of a house sale, where both seller and buyer are keen to get it done, but the surveyor/solicitor/land registry keep dragging their heels for some administrative reason. Perhaps the agent is off sick?

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:47 - Aug 10 with 1760 viewsFrimleyBlue

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:34 - Aug 10 by SuffolkPunchFC

It’s all well and good being ‘down the line with options’ in March - which basically means we’ve identified targets - this can be done very early, but that doesn’t mean any progress has been made other than producing a prioritised list.

I’m sure we all get frustrated when things don’t go our way - often for reasons outside of our control I’m sure KmK is frustrated that everything hasn’t lined up and concluded quickly. I’m also sure that Ashton and the entire recruitment team is frustrated because it’s not moved more rapidly.

Why would Ashton tell KmK ‘it’s football manager’ - he’s smart enough to know without being told. He’s also smart enough to know that much of the delay is likely to be out of the club’s control, and that in itself is frustrating.

People are creating a narrative of friction and frustration between KmK and Ashton with little to substantiate this. Maybe there is, or maybe - and possibly more likely - there is frustration amongst everyone in the club of things outside of their control, make the process drag on.


Think you've taken that wrong. It's not about any conflict between ashton and mckenna. I was just basically saying KM would share his frustrations with Ashton as any manager would and ashton wouldn't imo at least respond with "it's not football manager" which is what is used on here alot against those discussion the delay in transfers.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:51 - Aug 10 with 1724 viewsGuthrum

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 06:46 - Aug 10 by catch74

Maybe a prem youngster? Hutchinson the 2nd please.


I think one or more Prem youngsters (on loan) is a near-certainty, but won't happen until almost the end of the window, once the Prem clubs have sorted out their own squads.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:53 - Aug 10 with 1703 viewsurbanpenguin

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:47 - Aug 10 by FrimleyBlue

Think you've taken that wrong. It's not about any conflict between ashton and mckenna. I was just basically saying KM would share his frustrations with Ashton as any manager would and ashton wouldn't imo at least respond with "it's not football manager" which is what is used on here alot against those discussion the delay in transfers.


I said to you that it's not a football Manager, but I am not Mark Ashton and you are not McKenna, so I don't know why you'd think this message board is the same as inside the club.
For the love of god I really hope it's not.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:16 - Aug 10 with 1632 viewsChris_ITFC

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:47 - Aug 10 by FrimleyBlue

Think you've taken that wrong. It's not about any conflict between ashton and mckenna. I was just basically saying KM would share his frustrations with Ashton as any manager would and ashton wouldn't imo at least respond with "it's not football manager" which is what is used on here alot against those discussion the delay in transfers.


Captain Obvious.

People tell you it’s not Football Manager because you use the delay to criticise the Club or come up with conspiracy theories to fill the void of not being in the know.

But why compare you with what Ashton says to McKenna? Ashton would obviously tell McKenna the actual reasons why - because they’re the CEO and Manager of the Club.

I’m sure all are frustrated, but that’s transfers. Akpom will get done. McKenna would never have said a word about it to the media if he wasn’t confident it is almost there.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:18 - Aug 10 with 1611 viewsBloomBlue

Every transfer is different, predominantly because agents approach each deal differently.
We don't know what is actually happening behind the scenes, Akpom's agent could be demanding some sort of payment even for the loan. He could be demanding a relegation release clause built into the permanent deal after we win promotion this season that MA isnt happy with.

Release clauses seem to be the big thing these days, I was surprised Wilfred Ndidi release clause was only £9m. I know he's been at Leicester for a few years, but at 28, he's in his prime. Some agents, it appears, spend more time negotiating a release clause now.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:25 - Aug 10 with 1569 viewsPinewoodblue

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:18 - Aug 10 by BloomBlue

Every transfer is different, predominantly because agents approach each deal differently.
We don't know what is actually happening behind the scenes, Akpom's agent could be demanding some sort of payment even for the loan. He could be demanding a relegation release clause built into the permanent deal after we win promotion this season that MA isnt happy with.

Release clauses seem to be the big thing these days, I was surprised Wilfred Ndidi release clause was only £9m. I know he's been at Leicester for a few years, but at 28, he's in his prime. Some agents, it appears, spend more time negotiating a release clause now.


Could even be to do with salary in 2026/27 season on promotion.

We will no doubt know the answer at some point.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:33 - Aug 10 with 1518 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 07:56 - Aug 10 by WeWereZombies

That sounds like a reasonable assumption, it could be what the 'who blinks first' situation is for Ashton.

Also, don't expect an announcement on a Sunday...and don't expect deals with Ajax to be done in a Flash.

I'll get my housecoat.


" .. don't expect deals with Ajax to be done in a Flash."

I've scoured the interweb with Vim but have yet to find anything to match that.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:38 - Aug 10 with 1484 viewstonybied

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:33 - Aug 10 by You_Bloo_Right

" .. don't expect deals with Ajax to be done in a Flash."

I've scoured the interweb with Vim but have yet to find anything to match that.

Bravo!


It's fabreeze, cif you search in the right places.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:39 - Aug 10 with 1470 viewsTIB

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 22:32 - Aug 9 by FrimleyBlue

Obv got to trust them

But if the rumours are true that axel. Burgess. Morsy etc all wanted to stay but we didn't play ball. It does make you wonder how we go about negotiations and if we play hardball to much.

We hear alot from KM who used ashtons favourite phrase of protecting the interest of the club. The future etc.. which of course is what we want.. but at what cost in the process.


Not claiming to be “ITK” but I have heard Akpom / his agent have pretty big wage demands and we’re not budging.

I take everything with a pinch of salt that I hear, that said, this deal is dragging big time and after Friday, it’s clear we need to be getting folk in.

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 11:28 - Aug 10 with 1188 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 09:39 - Aug 10 by TIB

Not claiming to be “ITK” but I have heard Akpom / his agent have pretty big wage demands and we’re not budging.

I take everything with a pinch of salt that I hear, that said, this deal is dragging big time and after Friday, it’s clear we need to be getting folk in.


Dragging on?

We were linked with a move for him less than a week ago!!!
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 11:47 - Aug 10 with 1148 viewsRyorry

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 08:44 - Aug 10 by Guthrum

That can be true of a house sale, where both seller and buyer are keen to get it done, but the surveyor/solicitor/land registry keep dragging their heels for some administrative reason. Perhaps the agent is off sick?


… or sipping a martini on a lilo floating in the swimming pool with his mobile turned off …
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 16:03 - Aug 10 with 828 viewsArnieM

Something seems different this window. Maybe its because we're in the CC and not the PL. But we do seem to be taking an age to get deals (any deal), done and we still are needing key positions sorted. I'm not
thinking this is the most stunning window so far. .....

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 16:17 - Aug 10 with 768 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 16:03 - Aug 10 by ArnieM

Something seems different this window. Maybe its because we're in the CC and not the PL. But we do seem to be taking an age to get deals (any deal), done and we still are needing key positions sorted. I'm not
thinking this is the most stunning window so far. .....


Last summer we were transitioning into a new PL entrant. We mostly recruited players that were outside the PL, and offered them the opportunity to play at that level. It was a much easier sell, and we got many of our targets without too much drama.

We're now the team newly relegated from the PL, but still trying to recruit high level players, some of whom have higher tier interest, be it in England or abroad.

Is it really any surprise to anyone that it's more difficult and prolonged this window?
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 17:40 - Aug 10 with 659 viewsJimbobjims

Could be worse, we could be Newcastle
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 17:50 - Aug 10 with 604 viewsbluesimon

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 07:32 - Aug 10 by PioneerBlue

Two mad guesses that could be a source of late stage hold up

Medical did actually throw something out that we wanted to mitigate which required further post fact negotiations

Or

ITFC has not been keen to look past this season but the compatible deal required us to consider a promotion obligation therefore long term is off the table for us but how best to incentivise Akpom in the event that we are promoted ie your own players access a promotion bonus but what about a loan that you don’t own who is already effectively on top dollar then you want to start dealing with relegation clauses blar blar blar

Then suddenly you end up negotiating a £16m obligation for an unknown recent Spainish U21 and that becomes a distraction


Or, we are hoping to 'do a Porto' when they signed Luuk De Jong and are simply waiting for the Bromley game to name him...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/08/how-porto-pulled-off-a-surprise
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 19:00 - Aug 10 with 473 viewsMK1

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 22:36 - Aug 9 by FrimleyBlue

Complete guess

Akpom
Someone from spain
Someone completely random from france
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And the outgoings?

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 19:21 - Aug 10 with 382 viewsberkstractorboy

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 16:03 - Aug 10 by ArnieM

Something seems different this window. Maybe its because we're in the CC and not the PL. But we do seem to be taking an age to get deals (any deal), done and we still are needing key positions sorted. I'm not
thinking this is the most stunning window so far. .....


I don't think Azor, Kipre and Young took too long did they? Once we had whiff of news, I think all were in the club around 3-4 days later.

A big recency bias going here due to Cajuste (he signed) and the Akpom delays.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 19:21 - Aug 10 with 382 viewsFrimleyBlue

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 19:00 - Aug 10 by MK1

And the outgoings?


Muric
Baggot
Humphreys

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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 21:21 - Aug 10 with 156 viewsurbanpenguin

Maybe Phil can get the first question of the press conference in?

"Frimley on the internet wants to know why this took so long, and, as a follow up, is your job like playing Football Manager?"
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 21:23 - Aug 10 with 143 viewswaveneyblue

Hopefully you will get a good night's sleep Frimmers, now that your bafflement has been eased.
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Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 21:24 - Aug 10 with 130 viewsChris_ITFC

Not gonna lie I'm still absolutely baffled this akpom deal hasn't been announced on 21:21 - Aug 10 by urbanpenguin

Maybe Phil can get the first question of the press conference in?

"Frimley on the internet wants to know why this took so long, and, as a follow up, is your job like playing Football Manager?"


All that blubbing for nothing. I wonder what’ll be next…

(Reminder: It was only *1 week ago* Akpom was all set to sign for someone else!)

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