| A message to the more positive supporter 12:22 - Aug 13 with 1979 views | Whos_blue |
I'm not sure how this will land, but here goes. (The thread is of course open to all, but I'm looking for kindred spirits first and foremost).
I might be classed as a happy clapper and to be honest that's probably fair.
I try to use football as an escape and dare I say enjoyable break from the old routine.
Like most people, I didn't find much enjoyment last season.
However, I can see how far the club has come since the dark days of Evans, Hurst and Lambert. From a run down midtable nothing of a club, what we've seen since Gamechanger come in is nothing short of miraculous.
I get that passions run high after a loss or poor result, but what we've seen over the last the last five days has actually been quite upsetting. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but jeez, it's been a bit of a cess pit here lately.
My question is what do I do?
Do I just avoid this place after a poor result or try to offer a balanced opinion? I got involved last night and regret it now. Not that I'm so precious about downvotes, I use them myself, but to be challenged and down voted for offering an opinion that Humphreys and Barbrook had done ok was just disheartening.
But then I also believe that to say nothing is to be complicit.
What approach do other more patient and long termist supporters do, because more nights like last night on here will just force people away and it risks becoming a haven for vitreol. |  |
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| Nah, not good enough with his feet. (n/t) on 13:09 - Aug 13 with 338 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Nah, not good enough with his feet. (n/t) on 12:57 - Aug 13 by Bloots |
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Ali doesnt feel he can contribute... |  | | |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:11 - Aug 13 with 342 views | Vic |
I feel your pain and felt exactly the same last night, and logged off shortly after FT. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but the vitriol was something else - worse even than during the banter days. At least then there was a bit of gallows humour, last night it was just painful. So I logged on this morning with real trepidation and was glad to things had settled down a bit.
The problem is that these opening two games have seen us play very poorly - a continuation of the end of last season. The team in incoherent, the players don;t seem to be enjoying it and poor old AAH - it was just a mare for him. I actually felt for him and will be surprised if we see him again. Not sure how anyone recovers from that! Bottom line is that a team like ours, even with so many injuries and absentees, should still be beating a team like Bromley, who themselves weren't even at full strength. All this has resulted in some dooming us - which frustrates those who take a more optimistic view.
But truth is that none of us know what will happen. Personally I happy to settle at the moment for seeing the many extenuating factors - players leaving, not being able to make the signings we wanted (rather than lack of effort or concern that some seem to imply), and a hang over from last season with a lack of confidence.
As I see it things have started badly and McKenna has got a lot of work to do in many ways. But I think he's capable of it and with the players we've got to come into the side, and others we will sign I'm confident that we'll be OK and up there challenging when it counts most.
But it is a shame when the critics and doom mongers are so loud and simply rubbish an alternative, most positive outlook. Sometimes I just have to log off for a week or so! |  |
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| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:12 - Aug 13 with 339 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 12:29 - Aug 13 by mrfixit426 |
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hilarious.
Win every pre-season game at a canter.
Get a valuable point at from potentially the toughest away game of the season in a hostile atmosphere at an absolute circus of an event orchestrated by Sky TV.
Lose in an early round of the League Cup to lower league opposition, just like we have for the previous (insert number here) seasons, in a game we seem to have used as an extra pre-season friendly.
Suddenly everyone is losing their minds. Mental. |
Agreed. But there is, and has been for some time, sensible criticism on here and elsewhere. The fact (eg) Ali is still anywhere near our 11 is down to poor transfer windows and I do think people have a point when expressing concern over the approach to the last 3 windows in particular.
Last Summer was at best chaotic. January didn’t address our fundamental issues particularly well, and this Summer to date has been similar to January with probably 5 key (and significant) signings needed in the next few weeks. I hope they’ve got players lined up, but fear they’ve again focused on entirely unrealistic targets, losing out on others along the way. That last point is potentially (and hopefully) completely unfounded but make no mistake this next few weeks define whether we’re in the top 2 or not, and our current squad, without Omari and Broadhead, doesn’t look like it is to me. |  | | |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:31 - Aug 13 with 272 views | stonojnr |
You know what I enjoyed the Premier League fwiw, not losing games so much but actually just being there being involved, occasionally seeing top footballers at their best, people youd only ever seen on TV.
And simply because for the past 20+ years its something I never thought id see in my lifetime again. I might never see it happen again now. Learn to appreciate special moments because you never know when you'll get them again
That's the perspective people need to have, and not treat it all as a disaster every game we dont crush another team.
My only advice would be dont worry about what others think, you know your own views, they seem perfectly realistic, you dont have to apologise for them | | | |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:31 - Aug 13 with 273 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
I'm with you too. Disappointing start to the season performance-wise, but nothing disastrous for our season yet - and certainly not anything akin to some of the tragedies taking place around the world right now. You can certainly assign the 'first world problems' tag to our slight stutter at the start of the season.
Roll on Sunday, and an opportunity to get our season underway. And even if we don't, I have much more serious things in my life to get depressed and/or angry about.
Don't take the negative comments and downvotes to heart. Many of these will come from the eternally negative posters on the forum - and you might even note a correlation between the posters who are constantly critical of some of our players, calling for them to 'respect the club' and yet show complete lack of respect for those same and other players. The irony is lost on most of course ... | | | |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:32 - Aug 13 with 273 views | SlimTeaBoy |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 12:43 - Aug 13 by blueasfook |
Indeed I find those who are blindly optimistic just as annoying as the negative ninnies. Our situation isnt great right now. We just lost a cup tie to a 4th division reserve side. A fortunate penalty saved our bacon against Brum, We are still needing 3 or 4 quality signings this window and we have at least one sulking primadonna who is refusing to play for us.
Can fully understand some fans being concerned. |
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| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:43 - Aug 13 with 242 views | MVBlue |
I am not a season ticket holder, so its easier for me to see the bigger picture of the journey we are on. And thats a journey of rebuilding to a top squad with quality throughout plus a manager who is learning what it takes to beat the best teams in the world and the land. If I was going each week and seeing the painful events and issues with getting along the journey I would be more susceptible to criticising the team and indeed may have thought swapping McKenna for Cooper was a good idea at Christmas (Lol). But I can see we are on a journey, and improving bit by bit but not at the rocket speed some people demand. We are trying to do the journey in the Ipswich way, retaining our identity.
Last night was painful, so many times over the years except for the glory season of 23/24 we failed in the league cup, and even in that season there was Maidstone. Last year we had a decent FA cup run, albeit with Delap and Omari featuring.
McKenna knows its not there yet, he needs more additions. He also needs to drop a couple of players that are not helping the journey. But we should see that we can be top 3
in October and the journey is on course then. |  |
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| A message to the more positive supporter on 13:45 - Aug 13 with 229 views | Chris_ITFC |
Brilliant thread. Some get far too high and far too low, and lose all perspective.
Unfortunately, those are often the ones who can’t help voice their views the loudest. |  |
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| If we end up with…. on 14:07 - Aug 13 with 151 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| If we end up with…. on 12:57 - Aug 13 by positivity |
cARnt bee wOrse than palmer/muric (insert current escaped goat here) |
Build a pen on the practice pitch to hold any escaped domestic animals. |  | | |
| If we end up with…. on 14:50 - Aug 13 with 110 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| If we end up with…. on 12:55 - Aug 13 by blueasfook |
I heard McK is gonna try him in goal |
I heard he still doesn't know where the goal is. |  |
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| A message to the more positive supporter on 14:54 - Aug 13 with 101 views | Churchman |
Thank you for posting this.
The only bit I disagree with is ‘to say nothing is to be complicit’. It isn’t. It’s letting the haters and quite frankly the sad and empty ITK delusional people vent to their hearts content. If TWTD, X or a loud hailer is their thing to spew, so be it. It is a view and like a’holes everyone has one. No need for balance because the perpetrators don’t understand the meaning of the word. They understand entitlement though.
Some of the stuff on here in recent weeks/months is unacceptable to me. There is no engaging or debating with last night. No rationalising. Just plain old nastiness and ignorance. The perpetrators could say ‘if you don’t like it, do one’. Fine, no problem. I do believe the vitriol will drive people away and if the owners of the forum are happy with that, fine. Maybe it just reflects society.
The club has some truly rubbish ‘support’ in my view. Shame really given the cadre of supporters that endured the Evans years and even the survivors of Ferguson and Duncan’s time from the hardy 11k and less.
The sadness is that the posters and posts in this particular thread are excellent, along with others who no longer engage with this forum. It’s for them to say why or otherwise, but I have my suspicions.
For me, it’s better things to do. The support last season in the ground was amazing, given our uncompetitiveness. It contrasts markedly with what I see on here.
Sport is an escape. It is something where you get to meet and interact with interesting and good people too. It is also a passion - always was for me. To the extent of whatever was going on in life, in PR I’d be 100% engaged with it. That won’t change.
Has the club made mistakes? Yes, too many. Will the club be promoted this year? Unlikely. Relegated? Unlikely. Sold? Quite possibly. New manager? Maybe. Who knows.
I was following this club when the only info was a Playfair annual (small thing with stats), Match of the Week in black and white and players wearing black boots apart from Alan Ball. It will always be my club as long as it and/or I exist.
Whether that includes TWTD, who knows but with the current trend, that’s unlikely, sadly. The following from Kipling never loses its impact for me and I completely understand why a quote from it is on Wimbledon’s Centre Court.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if--- |  | | |
| A message to the more positive supporter on 14:58 - Aug 13 with 96 views | LuciBlue |
Negativity will always be louder, even with fewer numbers. |  |
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| A message to the more positive supporter on 15:13 - Aug 13 with 72 views | azuremerlangus |
A cup game so not entirely shocked at the outcome.
I do worry about the lack of ability to get a reasonable performance and therefore a result against a 4th tier side with a half decent squad of players.
The OH saga grates because it appears to be a lack of commitment - and commitment is expected to be a given between club, players and supporters. |  |
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