| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… 18:58 - Aug 19 with 5265 views | Kieran_Knows |
… Town have no intention of selling.
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:33 - Aug 19 with 1486 views | DJR |
Woolfy and Cameron Humphreys count as club developed players, and my understanding of the rules is that without a club developed player in the match day squad, the club is only able to name 8 (and not 9) subs.
McKenna has indicated that Humphreys will be in the squad this season, so presumably if Woolfy goes, Humphreys will feature in most match day squads because it is better to have 9 rather than 8 subs.
Barbrook is also a club developed player, and I believe would not count towards the 25 man squad limit because of his age but I don't think McKenna has said he plans to have him in the squad. [Post edited 19 Aug 20:48]
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:42 - Aug 19 with 1419 views | Nutkins_Return |
My heart says love Woolfy and would more than like him to remain.
Head says this is good for all parties. As much as we love Woolfy it not right for a player with his ability to be a regular on the Bench. Again head speaking we have better and I know it's a hugely unpopular opinion but I just don't see him as a Prem player if/when we go up. I think he is 4th choice now and We've been linked with absolute quality as well.
It's just the right thing for all parties. He's a proper Ipswich lad. My other question mark is hand on heart does he have top level mentality. He's very very laid back. Day to day I do wonder if that's not quite for McKenna.
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:48 - Aug 19 with 1358 views | textbackup |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:42 - Aug 19 by Nutkins_Return |
My heart says love Woolfy and would more than like him to remain.
Head says this is good for all parties. As much as we love Woolfy it not right for a player with his ability to be a regular on the Bench. Again head speaking we have better and I know it's a hugely unpopular opinion but I just don't see him as a Prem player if/when we go up. I think he is 4th choice now and We've been linked with absolute quality as well.
It's just the right thing for all parties. He's a proper Ipswich lad. My other question mark is hand on heart does he have top level mentality. He's very very laid back. Day to day I do wonder if that's not quite for McKenna.
An absolute local hero and legend forever. |
I keep seeing this ‘good for all parties’
How is us not having a top CB in our squad good for us?
Chances are we end up trying to loan someone from a PL team who will ultimately turn us down. We are at risk of losing some real identity and character from what has made us ‘us’ over the last couple of years |  |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:51 - Aug 19 with 1335 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:48 - Aug 19 by textbackup |
I keep seeing this ‘good for all parties’
How is us not having a top CB in our squad good for us?
Chances are we end up trying to loan someone from a PL team who will ultimately turn us down. We are at risk of losing some real identity and character from what has made us ‘us’ over the last couple of years |
I suppose it comes from the fact we’ve got to £15m+ centre halves currently playing and seemingly first choice (whether they should be is another discussion), plus signed another on loan with obligation to purchase should we go up and have been linked with another 2 centre backs in the space of a week.
I can’t imagine we’d look to carry 5 senior centre halves and from Woolfies perspective and PSR terms, he’ll be pure profit whatever we was to sell for.
FWIW, I hope we keep him, but can understand if he wanted to go. | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:51 - Aug 19 with 1324 views | chicoazul |
What if he wants to leave though and who could blame him |  |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:53 - Aug 19 with 1320 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 19:34 - Aug 19 by waveneyblue |
Didnt an "In the knower" claim that Wolfie was desperate to leave and had told KM that.
Or am I dreaming it ? |
Not dreaming. Desperate is a bit of a stretch, but it’s fairly well known around the club that he’d be very open to a move. Club (rightly) of the belief that it’ll cost more to replace him with someone of his quality, than we would receive for wolfie as a fee. Been brewing for quite a while now. |  | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:54 - Aug 19 with 1312 views | AVJones |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:48 - Aug 19 by textbackup |
I keep seeing this ‘good for all parties’
How is us not having a top CB in our squad good for us?
Chances are we end up trying to loan someone from a PL team who will ultimately turn us down. We are at risk of losing some real identity and character from what has made us ‘us’ over the last couple of years |
Why would any quality centre half sign for us?
They will clearly only ever be a back-up and only play if there are injuries. Ideally O’Shea and Greaves play every match.
Very tricky position to bring players in for. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:01 - Aug 19 with 1251 views | textbackup |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 20:51 - Aug 19 by Kieran_Knows |
I suppose it comes from the fact we’ve got to £15m+ centre halves currently playing and seemingly first choice (whether they should be is another discussion), plus signed another on loan with obligation to purchase should we go up and have been linked with another 2 centre backs in the space of a week.
I can’t imagine we’d look to carry 5 senior centre halves and from Woolfies perspective and PSR terms, he’ll be pure profit whatever we was to sell for.
FWIW, I hope we keep him, but can understand if he wanted to go. |
Am I going mad, but what CB have we signed on loan with a view to buy if we go up? | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:02 - Aug 19 with 1249 views | chicoazul |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:01 - Aug 19 by textbackup |
Am I going mad, but what CB have we signed on loan with a view to buy if we go up? |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:05 - Aug 19 with 1219 views | chantryblueboy |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:01 - Aug 19 by textbackup |
Am I going mad, but what CB have we signed on loan with a view to buy if we go up? |
Kipre
Sorry Chico [Post edited 19 Aug 21:06]
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:07 - Aug 19 with 1192 views | textbackup |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:05 - Aug 19 by chantryblueboy |
Kipre
Sorry Chico [Post edited 19 Aug 21:06]
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Ah yes! Of course | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 21:10 - Aug 19 with 1185 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 19:46 - Aug 19 by Swansea_Blue |
Well we paid £18M for Greaves, so I’d say £10M for Woolfie would bag someone a bargain. |
Exactly - if a player with a handful of games in a weak Danish league is ‘worth’ EUR 20m then GBP 10m for a defender who’s played in the PL and two promotions under his belt is a bargain. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 22:16 - Aug 19 with 1057 views | PhilTWTD |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 19:37 - Aug 19 by Kieran_Knows |
We had no interest in selling Broadhead either…. |
Indeed. And I seem to recall reporting we're interested in a Uruguayan international centre-half... |  | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 22:21 - Aug 19 with 1029 views | itfcsuth |
If he wants to leave, and the numbers work, wouldn’t really have an issue with Woolfe moving on, as much as I am a big fan of his, and always special seeing a homegrown player with the group.
However, I would also understand the desire to go and play, and really can’t see him dislodging Dara.
Would of course mean we’d need a replacement lined up, hence the recent links with Caceres and Asante. |  | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 22:37 - Aug 19 with 973 views | Smoresy |
Cov honing in on their Bobby Thomas replacement. Would hope for all of that sale money to be sent our way for a talent like Woolf, and would leave another gap that must be replaced this window. But Woolf must play footy again at some point! | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 01:24 - Aug 20 with 823 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 22:16 - Aug 19 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed. And I seem to recall reporting we're interested in a Uruguayan international centre-half... |
Has that progressed any further do we know? Presume you’d have had a story up in fairness if it had! | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:05 - Aug 20 with 498 views | Bluemike31 |
Personally I would let him move on for the right price. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:23 - Aug 20 with 404 views | suffolkpoker |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 19:14 - Aug 19 by Metal_Hacker |
£10m 😳 |
I love wolfy but at £10m he would have to be sold at that price imho. |  |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:29 - Aug 20 with 359 views | PhilTWTD |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 01:24 - Aug 20 by Kieran_Knows |
Has that progressed any further do we know? Presume you’d have had a story up in fairness if it had! |
No, I don't. I think it had gone a little further than us just casting an eye but whether it's going to progress, I don't know. Will probably depend on a departure given we're not really in need of another centre-half unless someone, presumably Woolfy, moves on. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:30 - Aug 20 with 351 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 22:37 - Aug 19 by Smoresy |
Cov honing in on their Bobby Thomas replacement. Would hope for all of that sale money to be sent our way for a talent like Woolf, and would leave another gap that must be replaced this window. But Woolf must play footy again at some point! |
Agreed. We shouldn't be accepting less than they get for Bobby Thomas.
I think people are being a bit sentimental about Woolfy. I'd love him to stick around as a back up centre back too but I am sure he wants to play and it makes financial sense for us to sell. If we got say £8m for him, that is pure profit for FFP purposes. Even if we went out and spent all of that on a replacement, we are going to be in profit as you would spread that fee over the length of the contract. This is the player trading Ashton talked about. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:31 - Aug 20 with 335 views | pablo_canooga |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:23 - Aug 20 by suffolkpoker |
I love wolfy but at £10m he would have to be sold at that price imho. |
If we're signing someone like Cáceres, he isn't coming to sit on our bench, surely? He's coming in as serious competition for Greaves/DOS? |  | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:34 - Aug 20 with 289 views | pointofblue |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:30 - Aug 20 by tractorboy1978 |
Agreed. We shouldn't be accepting less than they get for Bobby Thomas.
I think people are being a bit sentimental about Woolfy. I'd love him to stick around as a back up centre back too but I am sure he wants to play and it makes financial sense for us to sell. If we got say £8m for him, that is pure profit for FFP purposes. Even if we went out and spent all of that on a replacement, we are going to be in profit as you would spread that fee over the length of the contract. This is the player trading Ashton talked about. |
The issue is keeping him happy. I think the point was made on page one that we're unwilling to sell as we won't be able to sign someone of his calibre to be back up.
I can only presume he signed the new contract because he was happy to be a squad player in the Premier League and thought O'Shea would move on upon relegation, maybe with a promise from the club he would be a starter again if so. As it is, O'Shea has stayed and his career has been left in purgatory because of it. I wonder how long it will be before he picks up a sore throat. | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:41 - Aug 20 with 249 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:34 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
The issue is keeping him happy. I think the point was made on page one that we're unwilling to sell as we won't be able to sign someone of his calibre to be back up.
I can only presume he signed the new contract because he was happy to be a squad player in the Premier League and thought O'Shea would move on upon relegation, maybe with a promise from the club he would be a starter again if so. As it is, O'Shea has stayed and his career has been left in purgatory because of it. I wonder how long it will be before he picks up a sore throat. |
Posturing aside in order to get the best fee, I'd be amazed if we weren't willing to sell personally. I am sure MA (in conjuction with McKenna) is regularly looking at the market valuation of every player vs the value the player is held at on our balance sheet. If we can realise a good profit and the player isn't deemed 'key' then we are going to sell if we are sensible. | | | |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:51 - Aug 20 with 187 views | pointofblue |
| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 10:41 - Aug 20 by tractorboy1978 |
Posturing aside in order to get the best fee, I'd be amazed if we weren't willing to sell personally. I am sure MA (in conjuction with McKenna) is regularly looking at the market valuation of every player vs the value the player is held at on our balance sheet. If we can realise a good profit and the player isn't deemed 'key' then we are going to sell if we are sensible. |
I think it's might be down to not wanting to forage through the centre back market when we're still chasing central midfielders and strikers. There are only so many hours in a day. We have seemingly asked by Caceres and there was that rumour about the second guy who's name escapes me but it may not be seen as a priority. I imagine he'll be another Broadhead - McKenna will claim he didn't want to lose him as he's excellent at sitting on his backside but, for the right price, he'll go. | |
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| Coventry have offer rejected for Woolfenden… on 13:43 - Aug 20 with 22 views | Vaughan8 |
As with other players, the club are (relatively) in control as Woolfenden only signed a new contract is January.
If he was desperate to leave, why would he do that, or at least not have some sort of clause in it....!
Obviously something like £10m is a decent amount, but only if we can get someone better in, which seems unlikely if they're going to have to play 2nd fiddle to O'Shea. | | | |
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