| Manager 16:50 - Aug 30 with 5833 views | saffers12 |
Has to go for me, enough is enough
Have to look at the trend and its awful |  | | |  |
| Manager on 12:31 - Aug 31 with 747 views | petieboy2011 |
If that did happen, who would be your choice to take over?
Seems Danny Rohl is high up on a lot of people's lists.
For what its worth, I don't think McKenna will be sacked just yet, not just after we've recruited new players for him to integrate, however he will be under pressure soon if results dont pick up after the international break. |  | | |
| Manager on 12:31 - Aug 31 with 743 views | Kieran_Knows |
‘Kin hell. What is happening to this place. |  |
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| Manager on 12:34 - Aug 31 with 732 views | NthQldITFC |
| Manager on 10:48 - Aug 31 by darkhorse28 |
£200 million spent. 4 wins in 42 games, promoted sides this season beating his record in TWO home games.
Cant even create against fourth division reserve sides.
I suspect you’re 100% right in the short term, and quite right, but he’s already failed building the team last summer, that’s finished, he had 12 months with them, and many players massively regressed.
You forget. The legacy leadership group, he didn’t bring ANY of Chaplin, Morsy, Burns, Burgess, Wolf, to the club.
He’s never done this, and this summer like last summer, pure panic.
We have half the squad for three positions, and no CDMs left backs or strikers.
I suspect you’ll be on the wrong side of this long term.
Even if it clicks…., what do we do? Play out WBA defence in the premier league?
Seriously? What’s your plan?
Another 15 signings???
No plan, no vision, no strategy - NONE
That’s not ok McKenna exclusively, it’s mostly Ashton, but McKenna made his bed, when he spent a summer talking to Brighton, to leverage a champions league contract.
If you think this is what an elite champions league manager looks like…, you’re deluded. Beyond belief!
And THAT is what McKenna is laid, and says he is.
He never was. And certainly won’t be at any point in this contract term. Or any other if we’re honest.
Every problem I’m building a team isn’t a coaching issue, he doesn’t get that, it’s been obvious for over a year.
You just attached your ego to him though.
Schoolboy error - it’s not as if he’s attached, Palace and Brighton…, he agreed terms with BOTH.
Time to look in the mirror…, and process whatever the outcome this season, you were wrong, he wasn’t as good as you told yourself.
New owners will have less patience than ones wanting continuity for a sale.
He doesn’t warrant endless patience, as brilliant as 23/24 was…., or George would still be manager. |
I'm such a tvvat in that I keep resetting my div list. |  |
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| Manager on 12:42 - Aug 31 with 689 views | J2BLUE |
| Manager on 12:16 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
I dont know who exactly is away. But isn't half the squad away? |
Which leaves... |  |
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| Manager on 12:43 - Aug 31 with 685 views | muccletonjoe |
57 down votes after the results we have had in last 9 months and the performances too, says it all |  | | |
| Manager on 12:48 - Aug 31 with 676 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Manager on 12:42 - Aug 31 by J2BLUE |
Which leaves... |
A mixed batch of players unable to train and create partnerships with other first team players as they are away on international duty. |  |
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| Manager on 12:51 - Aug 31 with 659 views | J2BLUE |
| Manager on 12:48 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
A mixed batch of players unable to train and create partnerships with other first team players as they are away on international duty. |
Did you even bother reading my last post? Players can form individual partnerships. The entire first team is not away from the training ground. | |
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| Manager on 13:01 - Aug 31 with 614 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Manager on 12:51 - Aug 31 by J2BLUE |
Did you even bother reading my last post? Players can form individual partnerships. The entire first team is not away from the training ground. |
I did but most of the partnerships etc we need to be growing can't happen in this two week window. Young/mcateer or furlong mcateer. For example.
Obv not a drama or anything. It's just these two weeks don't actually help as much as wed like it too and is annoying. | |
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| Manager on 13:01 - Aug 31 with 619 views | Everydayblue |
Even the thought of changing managers at this point, stinks of pure panic. Imo.
Besides, who would we look for?
Progressive young manager, with form for getting teams promoted..?
Ring any bells? |  | | |
| Manager on 13:03 - Aug 31 with 611 views | pointofblue |
| Manager on 13:01 - Aug 31 by Everydayblue |
Even the thought of changing managers at this point, stinks of pure panic. Imo.
Besides, who would we look for?
Progressive young manager, with form for getting teams promoted..?
Ring any bells? |
Rohl seems the obvious choice at the moment, but agree it's too early to be talking about sacking McKenna. | |
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| Manager on 13:35 - Aug 31 with 590 views | Ryorry |
| Manager on 10:48 - Aug 31 by darkhorse28 |
£200 million spent. 4 wins in 42 games, promoted sides this season beating his record in TWO home games.
Cant even create against fourth division reserve sides.
I suspect you’re 100% right in the short term, and quite right, but he’s already failed building the team last summer, that’s finished, he had 12 months with them, and many players massively regressed.
You forget. The legacy leadership group, he didn’t bring ANY of Chaplin, Morsy, Burns, Burgess, Wolf, to the club.
He’s never done this, and this summer like last summer, pure panic.
We have half the squad for three positions, and no CDMs left backs or strikers.
I suspect you’ll be on the wrong side of this long term.
Even if it clicks…., what do we do? Play out WBA defence in the premier league?
Seriously? What’s your plan?
Another 15 signings???
No plan, no vision, no strategy - NONE
That’s not ok McKenna exclusively, it’s mostly Ashton, but McKenna made his bed, when he spent a summer talking to Brighton, to leverage a champions league contract.
If you think this is what an elite champions league manager looks like…, you’re deluded. Beyond belief!
And THAT is what McKenna is laid, and says he is.
He never was. And certainly won’t be at any point in this contract term. Or any other if we’re honest.
Every problem I’m building a team isn’t a coaching issue, he doesn’t get that, it’s been obvious for over a year.
You just attached your ego to him though.
Schoolboy error - it’s not as if he’s attached, Palace and Brighton…, he agreed terms with BOTH.
Time to look in the mirror…, and process whatever the outcome this season, you were wrong, he wasn’t as good as you told yourself.
New owners will have less patience than ones wanting continuity for a sale.
He doesn’t warrant endless patience, as brilliant as 23/24 was…., or George would still be manager. |
Read some rants over the years on here, but …
Your ott explosion is a bit sad imho because there are grains of truth buried in there somewhere - Morsy, Chappers, Burns, Wolfy, Burgess not being KM’s buys; our current squad imbalance, eg. But you’ve taken a monster wrecking ball to crack a nut and it looks silly. |  |
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| Manager on 15:31 - Aug 31 with 517 views | blueoutlook |
| Manager on 10:28 - Aug 31 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Yeah just a bit sick of your continued negativity mate. Multiple comments on different threads all amounting to the same thing. You’ve whinged your way through the transfer window, although I haven’t seen much on that in the last few days for some reason, and now it’s back to McKenna again. I may have missed it but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a positive comment from you. Your user name is spot on though. |
Everyone can have an opinion. You have yours,I have mine,that’s life. I’m concerned for the team as I’m sure we all are. I’ve not been impressed with the transfers this summer,it’s been very slap dash. There doesn’t seem to be any thought process with some of them. We buy players then try moulding them into something they are not. Square pegs in round holes. Clarke,on the right,when he scored 20 goals for Sunderland on the left. Did we need Philogene ? He is one of the reasons Clarke is out on the right. Greaves has a mistake in him every game, Burgess was by far the better player. I could go on. I don’t mind your opinions,but your first post was just abusive. I’ve supported Town for 50 years so know the good times and bad. Agreed it’s not at all bad compared to past times. But, we have spent an absolute fortune the last few seasons and some of those played aren’t fit to be on that pitch where some of our past hero’s have played. The manager has had more money at his disposal than all our previous managers put together.If he can’t get a tune out of them then questions are allowed to be asked. |  | | |
| Manager on 15:38 - Aug 31 with 509 views | bluelagos |
| Manager on 17:11 - Aug 30 by BudapestByBlimp |
He's not just 'having doubts' though is he? He's saying McKenna should be sacked, which is a completely different thing. |
Given that two of our biggest signings haven't even played once, is a bit bizarre for anyone to be calling for KM to be sacked.
If in January - we are in the bottom 6 with little sign of improvement, then there's a question to be asked. But for the next few weeks, how's about people let KM get on with it, coaching his new players and working out the best pegs for each hole. |  |
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| Manager on 15:50 - Aug 31 with 483 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Manager on 13:35 - Aug 31 by Ryorry |
Read some rants over the years on here, but …
Your ott explosion is a bit sad imho because there are grains of truth buried in there somewhere - Morsy, Chappers, Burns, Wolfy, Burgess not being KM’s buys; our current squad imbalance, eg. But you’ve taken a monster wrecking ball to crack a nut and it looks silly. |
He’s right about somethings though IMO. We would have to have another massive turnover if we got promoted, just got to hope we can get decent fees for ones we have already purchased that couldn’t step up. There is some from 2024 balance sheet that will never be decent enough at that level but should be more than good enough this year.
As we stand at the end of August, this seems like a good future problem to have.
It’s not the most sustainable way to do things and it’s too scattergun overall in it’s approach. [Post edited 31 Aug 15:54]
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| Manager on 15:53 - Aug 31 with 463 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Manager on 15:38 - Aug 31 by bluelagos |
Given that two of our biggest signings haven't even played once, is a bit bizarre for anyone to be calling for KM to be sacked.
If in January - we are in the bottom 6 with little sign of improvement, then there's a question to be asked. But for the next few weeks, how's about people let KM get on with it, coaching his new players and working out the best pegs for each hole. |
It’s ridiculous, he does need a good 5 games though with a decent return before there’s real pressure creeping in. | |
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| Manager on 16:01 - Aug 31 with 420 views | positivity |
| Manager on 15:50 - Aug 31 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
He’s right about somethings though IMO. We would have to have another massive turnover if we got promoted, just got to hope we can get decent fees for ones we have already purchased that couldn’t step up. There is some from 2024 balance sheet that will never be decent enough at that level but should be more than good enough this year.
As we stand at the end of August, this seems like a good future problem to have.
It’s not the most sustainable way to do things and it’s too scattergun overall in it’s approach. [Post edited 31 Aug 15:54]
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what's your answer? it's not possible to get a squad of players in who are prem ready in the championship.
i can't think of a team who's survived after promotion without a massive turnover of players | |
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| Manager on 16:27 - Aug 31 with 367 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Manager on 16:01 - Aug 31 by positivity |
what's your answer? it's not possible to get a squad of players in who are prem ready in the championship.
i can't think of a team who's survived after promotion without a massive turnover of players |
I’m not talking about getting them in the Champ as such (although I think this year has been better on paper as a window now). I’m talking about how bad lasts summer was and having to almost throw good money after bad when you look at some of the signings, Muric/Palmer, Ogbene/McAteer. Phiologene and Clarke struggling for big fees.
Even Greaves as an example, was 18M, you’ll never get that kind of fee for him if you go up to sell him back down to a higher end champ club. I’d also argue no one in Europe will pay 20 odd million for a center half that isn’t semi decent international or played well in a top league.
However, would you be super comfortable with him starting for you in the PL? I’m not so sure and he’s obviously on a long term deal. Whereas the a team like Sunderland went from an average squad to one that can clearly compete, as I thought they would.
We will be paying for summer window 2024 for quite a while. That said if we get back up (not sure we should be talking about that right now) we would have to just make use loaning a fair few out and try a different approach again to try and be a more robust team.
There is probably 5-6 I’d say that would have a chance to be in a PL set up from our current crop. [Post edited 31 Aug 16:28]
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| Manager on 16:36 - Aug 31 with 352 views | ClareBlue |
| Manager on 12:16 - Aug 31 by pointofblue |
"Is there any example of a professional manager having a 50 game record that ours has and still being in the job."
Rob Edwards at Luton, probably. Not the best example... |
His record was better at previous 50 games on 1st September 2024. | | | |
| Manager on 16:49 - Aug 31 with 303 views | Ryorry |
| Manager on 15:50 - Aug 31 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
He’s right about somethings though IMO. We would have to have another massive turnover if we got promoted, just got to hope we can get decent fees for ones we have already purchased that couldn’t step up. There is some from 2024 balance sheet that will never be decent enough at that level but should be more than good enough this year.
As we stand at the end of August, this seems like a good future problem to have.
It’s not the most sustainable way to do things and it’s too scattergun overall in it’s approach. [Post edited 31 Aug 15:54]
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I actually said he was right about some things (“..there are grains of truth buried in there somewhere - Morsy, Chappers, Burns, Wolfy, Burgess not being KM’s buys; our current squad imbalance, eg”). | |
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| Manager on 16:51 - Aug 31 with 293 views | positivity |
| Manager on 16:27 - Aug 31 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I’m not talking about getting them in the Champ as such (although I think this year has been better on paper as a window now). I’m talking about how bad lasts summer was and having to almost throw good money after bad when you look at some of the signings, Muric/Palmer, Ogbene/McAteer. Phiologene and Clarke struggling for big fees.
Even Greaves as an example, was 18M, you’ll never get that kind of fee for him if you go up to sell him back down to a higher end champ club. I’d also argue no one in Europe will pay 20 odd million for a center half that isn’t semi decent international or played well in a top league.
However, would you be super comfortable with him starting for you in the PL? I’m not so sure and he’s obviously on a long term deal. Whereas the a team like Sunderland went from an average squad to one that can clearly compete, as I thought they would.
We will be paying for summer window 2024 for quite a while. That said if we get back up (not sure we should be talking about that right now) we would have to just make use loaning a fair few out and try a different approach again to try and be a more robust team.
There is probably 5-6 I’d say that would have a chance to be in a PL set up from our current crop. [Post edited 31 Aug 16:28]
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i think buying young (the age of the player, not ashley!) was a good policy; the upside is high and we've made excellent profit on a couple of them already.
at present greaves wouldn't make his money back, but if, as in your example, he's played well in a promoted side, he'll be going up to the prem as a much better player.
if we go up, we'll be much more experienced than last time and there'll be less turnover than last time, but turnover is inevitable i'm afraid. it's the modern game [Post edited 31 Aug 17:12]
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| Manager on 17:12 - Aug 31 with 240 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Manager on 16:51 - Aug 31 by positivity |
i think buying young (the age of the player, not ashley!) was a good policy; the upside is high and we've made excellent profit on a couple of them already.
at present greaves wouldn't make his money back, but if, as in your example, he's played well in a promoted side, he'll be going up to the prem as a much better player.
if we go up, we'll be much more experienced than last time and there'll be less turnover than last time, but turnover is inevitable i'm afraid. it's the modern game [Post edited 31 Aug 17:12]
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They’ll be loads of turnover a lot of them are miles off the PL. | |
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| Manager on 17:14 - Aug 31 with 220 views | positivity |
| Manager on 17:12 - Aug 31 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They’ll be loads of turnover a lot of them are miles off the PL. |
and the same with whichever team goes up this year as it has been with burnley, leeds and sunderland this year.
it's the modern game unfortunately | |
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| Manager on 17:15 - Aug 31 with 217 views | MK1 |
He has earnt a bit more time, not too much, but more. |  |
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| Manager on 17:31 - Aug 31 with 178 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Manager on 17:14 - Aug 31 by positivity |
and the same with whichever team goes up this year as it has been with burnley, leeds and sunderland this year.
it's the modern game unfortunately |
Yes but we have specifically bought for PM too but doubtful if that has been achieved |  | | |
| Manager on 17:39 - Aug 31 with 158 views | positivity |
| Manager on 17:31 - Aug 31 by reusersfreekicks |
Yes but we have specifically bought for PM too but doubtful if that has been achieved |
pm? if you mean premier league, so have soton, leicester and to a lesser extent sheff u, even norwich and wba have some hangovers from the pl buys.
we're powerless to stop the very best (whether that be omari, delap, dibling, fernandes, hermanson, justin) going to the prem. turnover is inevitable | |
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