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If it was truly about nothing other than national pride, surely those behind it (Führage, Tommy Ten Names et al.) would be speaking out against incidents like these:
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 21:13 - Aug 31 by gardins01
Aren’t we all proud of our country?
Suggest you read the story of Weoley warriors which will help to educate.
What are you particularly proud of? Our history of colonialism? Or perhaps it’s how tolerant we are to people from other cultures and religi… oh, wait… best put a pin in that.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 00:14 - Sep 1 with 849 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 21:13 - Aug 31 by gardins01
Aren’t we all proud of our country?
Suggest you read the story of Weoley warriors which will help to educate.
This is a genuine question.
If it doesn't come from a place of hate, or, at the very least, aggression, then why are the group called "Warriors"?
Who are they at war with? Who are they fighting?
How is that not hate?
Maybe there is something that I have missed or don't understand, but if you call yourselves warriors and start daubing the crusader's cross everywhere then it is pretty clear that you don't care if ordinary, law-abiding, legally-British Muslims feel intimidated.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 00:34 - Sep 1 with 828 views
Tall enough to paint words quite high up, otherwise from the state of the 'writing' you'd assume it was a five year old. The education system is still creaking along though, because they know the words 'cat' and 'dog' and can probably do a good half of the farmyard animals too, I should think.
Is 'geet up' Yorkshire asking for Mummy to arise from her slumbers and sort out the Farley's, I wonder, or just lack of certainty about the number of "e's" in 'get'?
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 22:46 - Aug 31 by MattinLondon
For full context that was done in honour of the Englands women’s football team after they won the Euros. Think a function was held in their honour - but different to someone hanging a flag on a lamppost or painting a roundabout.
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For fks sake don't mention women's football as well, their little heads will explode.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 21:16 - Aug 31 by DJR
Three recent things of which I have direct experience, and all rather scary and appalling.
1. My daughter's best friend is a Muslim who has chosen to wear a headscarf. She says she now feels unsafe in public in view of her appearance even in a place as diverse as London where they met last night.
2. On my way to the Bromley game from Kent I popped into the Eastern European shop next to the station to get a drink. In front of me was an old man who had a go at the shopkeeper because he said he didn't speak English properly, which wasn't true at all.
3. On the way back on the train from the game yesterday there was a large group consisting of a couple of families, the adults of which were giving their views about "illegals" to what I think was a Polish man and his wife. I couldn't make everything they said but a couple of people nearby expressed their concerns about what was going on to the Polish couple when the people left the train.
The problem is that with nearly half the population thinking that there are more illegal migrants than legal (when there is only a fraction), the sort of attitudes that politicians and the media are expressing are inevitably going to spill over to people perfectly legally here often for decades.
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Incidents such as these are clearly going on throughout the country as this extract from a letter in the Guardian indicates. Sadly, racism in this country has gone mainstream.
"Last week in my small rural town, St George’s flags were erected from lamp-posts and crudely daubed on roundabouts and zebra crossings, while residents were subjected to “Sieg Heil” as a mob walked along the streets. Downing Street has put out a statement that patriotism is important, while Joanne Monk, the Reform UK leader of Worcestershire city council, also emphasised pride in the flag.
I have nothing against the flag per se, but when Nazi thugs use it to demonstrate and catcall, it morphs into something else entirely. As a Black person, I have been subject to abuse three times in the past fortnight. My 12-year-old child and his friend were called “paedos” at school – they are the only Black children in the class – and a friend’s child was called the N-word on the bus (this was before the summer recess). To be Black in the countryside at the moment is to have a target on your back.
There are real-world consequences of constantly demonising Black and Brown people in the media, racialising crimes and acting as if the most vulnerable people in our society – asylum seekers – are the reasons your energy bills are too high or you can’t afford your food shop."
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 08:40 - Sep 1 with 576 views
There are clear parallels to the late 70s but things are much worse now because the NF were very much on the margins.
Sadly, there is little in the way of fightback from Labour, but Linton Kwesi Johnson's lyrics from that time are more relevant than ever.
"Some a dem say dem a niggah haytah An' some a dem say dem a black beatah Some a dem say dem a black stabbah An' some a dem say dem a paki bashah
Fashist an di attack Noh baddah worry 'bout dat Fashist an di attack Wi wi' fite dem back Fashist an di attack Den wi countah-attack Fashist an di attack Den wi drive dem back"
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 08:58 - Sep 1 with 531 views
Demonisation has meant that attitudes which were fringe/far right in the 70s have now become mainstream.
A recent YouGov poll testing attitudes to several immigration scenarios found that almost half of Britons (45%) say they would support “admitting no more new migrants, and requiring large numbers of migrants who came to the UK in recent years to leave”.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 21:02 - Aug 31 by gardins01
If you did your research properly before posting utter rubbish then you would have a better idea of where this is coming from.
“"Operation Raise the Colours" is also the name of another group that has encouraged people to put up flags and is alleged to have accepted a donation from the far-right organisation Britain First, The Times reported. According to the research group Hope Not Hate, Operation Raise the Colours was co-founded by Andrew Currien, otherwise known as Andy Saxon, who has allegedly had links with the English Defence League and Britain First. The group denies it is a far-right organisation”. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx271162ee3o.amp
From the Hope Not Hate piece mentioned above: “HOPE not hate can reveal that the co-founder and organiser of the group is…Andrew Currien (AKA Andy Saxon). Formerly a key member of the English Defence League’s leadership bodyguard team, and now running security for the far-right party Britain First, Currien has previously been jailed for his part in a racist death. He was one of six men convicted in 2009 after a 59-year-old man was crushed to death by a car following a violent brawl.” https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/08/22/operation-raise-the-colours-organised-by-w
As I said, Operation Raise the Colours is coming from a place of hate.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 08:58 - Sep 1 by DJR
Demonisation has meant that attitudes which were fringe/far right in the 70s have now become mainstream.
A recent YouGov poll testing attitudes to several immigration scenarios found that almost half of Britons (45%) say they would support “admitting no more new migrants, and requiring large numbers of migrants who came to the UK in recent years to leave”.
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Yep. And we have people in Parliament now promoting an ideology more extreme than those of the former BNP, such as Rupert Lowe calling for mass deportations of legal immigrants on X (for which he makes £000s a month in advertising revenue apparently. The racist grift works not just for publicity but also financially.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 21:31 - Aug 31 by MattinLondon
The NF and Reform voters will all claim to be patriotic. What is patriotism? If it’s just painting on roundabouts or attaching a flag to a bridge then it’s a pretty meaningless act as it’s far too easy.
True patriotism is putting the welfare of your country above the views of the individual. KFoor example Brexit - can someone be patriotic if they still champion it? Knowing (and they all know it) the damage that it’s done to the country? I would suggest not.
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Patriotism (as defined in the Cambridge Dictionary) "the feeling of loving your country more than any others and being proud of it".
I think you are stretching the definition somewhat there to suit your point.
"Blueas is a great guy, one of the best." - Donald Trump
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:32 - Sep 1 by blueasfook
Patriotism (as defined in the Cambridge Dictionary) "the feeling of loving your country more than any others and being proud of it".
I think you are stretching the definition somewhat there to suit your point.
would you say that "loving your country" is best expressed by fomenting unrest against large swathes of the country's citizens?
if they really loved their country, they'd be volunteering to improve it. maybe they could start by removing plastic chinese-made tat from our lamp-posts?
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:32 - Sep 1 by blueasfook
Patriotism (as defined in the Cambridge Dictionary) "the feeling of loving your country more than any others and being proud of it".
I think you are stretching the definition somewhat there to suit your point.
I suppose then, talking strict definitions, you could talk about 'responsible patriotism' or 'engaged patriotism' or 'constructive patriotism' as a term which then involves the sort of thing Matt is talking about, i.e. you giving something to that country you love and are proud of?
Contributing to its welfare, stopping it disintegrating, not damaging it by withdrawing it from international cooperative entities?
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 08:58 - Sep 1 by DJR
Demonisation has meant that attitudes which were fringe/far right in the 70s have now become mainstream.
A recent YouGov poll testing attitudes to several immigration scenarios found that almost half of Britons (45%) say they would support “admitting no more new migrants, and requiring large numbers of migrants who came to the UK in recent years to leave”.
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....and are getting promoted on this forum by a self prescribed 'elite'. Sad times.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
I shall try to put some context on the protests/Flag flying. Obviously to anyone with a brain cell this started with regards to illegal immigration. not by the handful, but in their thousands and the protest were directly linked to alleged sex crimes committed by some in these migrant hotels. This current government has done nothing to prevent the increase in illegals coming here and whilst the Tories were not a lot better they had an idea with Rwanda. But opposition came from all angles and it literally never took off. Labour then abandoned Rwanda stating they would smash the gangs. Unless seriously helped by other European Countries it won't happen. Sadly for those protesting in a lawful manner both the left and the right have infiltrated and inflamed what were mild mannered protests. I'm not sure where the flag came in, but it is after all a symbol of this Country, just as the Star Spangled banner is in the US although we only seem to see the Union flag or flag of St. George when big football tournaments come around. Councils in certain areas have also inflamed the situation by allowing Palestine and other flags to fly, but then claim the British flag may fall and hurt someone ? Last night on Radio 5 they had an immigrant who was in a hotel and was saying he saw his family tortured and killed and that is why he is here. I personally have no problem with genuine asylum seekers. But if to be believed we are in a situation where the country is paying £110 billion in debt interest alone and again if the soothsayers are correct unless something drastic is done we will be going cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out and their terms will in no way allow this or maybe any government in the future to carry out what is needed in this country. Therefore the situation of unauthorised entry in the UK needs stopping now and not as Labour says by the time their current term finishes.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:53 - Sep 1 with 313 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:07 - Sep 1 by Swansea_Blue
“"Operation Raise the Colours" is also the name of another group that has encouraged people to put up flags and is alleged to have accepted a donation from the far-right organisation Britain First, The Times reported. According to the research group Hope Not Hate, Operation Raise the Colours was co-founded by Andrew Currien, otherwise known as Andy Saxon, who has allegedly had links with the English Defence League and Britain First. The group denies it is a far-right organisation”. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx271162ee3o.amp
From the Hope Not Hate piece mentioned above: “HOPE not hate can reveal that the co-founder and organiser of the group is…Andrew Currien (AKA Andy Saxon). Formerly a key member of the English Defence League’s leadership bodyguard team, and now running security for the far-right party Britain First, Currien has previously been jailed for his part in a racist death. He was one of six men convicted in 2009 after a 59-year-old man was crushed to death by a car following a violent brawl.” https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/08/22/operation-raise-the-colours-organised-by-w
As I said, Operation Raise the Colours is coming from a place of hate.
I have a lot of time for both Hope Not Hate and Billy Bragg, and saw him last year at the Islington leg of his tour to celebrate 20 year of Hope Not Hate.
Here's a video from the Sheffield leg.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:57 - Sep 1 with 292 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:32 - Sep 1 by blueasfook
Patriotism (as defined in the Cambridge Dictionary) "the feeling of loving your country more than any others and being proud of it".
I think you are stretching the definition somewhat there to suit your point.
You know full well that the hanging of flags from motorway bridges (which you get off on)and such is part of the same campaign that is leading to outright xenophobia and racism and the daubing of flags on properties to intimidate. The campaign you promoted on here last night for the sake of bants and trying to own 'the woke'. I stand by my character assessment of you from last night. You're an absolute weapon.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:53 - Sep 1 by OldFart71
I shall try to put some context on the protests/Flag flying. Obviously to anyone with a brain cell this started with regards to illegal immigration. not by the handful, but in their thousands and the protest were directly linked to alleged sex crimes committed by some in these migrant hotels. This current government has done nothing to prevent the increase in illegals coming here and whilst the Tories were not a lot better they had an idea with Rwanda. But opposition came from all angles and it literally never took off. Labour then abandoned Rwanda stating they would smash the gangs. Unless seriously helped by other European Countries it won't happen. Sadly for those protesting in a lawful manner both the left and the right have infiltrated and inflamed what were mild mannered protests. I'm not sure where the flag came in, but it is after all a symbol of this Country, just as the Star Spangled banner is in the US although we only seem to see the Union flag or flag of St. George when big football tournaments come around. Councils in certain areas have also inflamed the situation by allowing Palestine and other flags to fly, but then claim the British flag may fall and hurt someone ? Last night on Radio 5 they had an immigrant who was in a hotel and was saying he saw his family tortured and killed and that is why he is here. I personally have no problem with genuine asylum seekers. But if to be believed we are in a situation where the country is paying £110 billion in debt interest alone and again if the soothsayers are correct unless something drastic is done we will be going cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out and their terms will in no way allow this or maybe any government in the future to carry out what is needed in this country. Therefore the situation of unauthorised entry in the UK needs stopping now and not as Labour says by the time their current term finishes.
Sorry, but your last paragraph is an absolute mess
Conflating debt interest with "unauthorised entry" sounds very much like you're blaming the wrong people
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:09 - Sep 1 with 220 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:53 - Sep 1 by OldFart71
I shall try to put some context on the protests/Flag flying. Obviously to anyone with a brain cell this started with regards to illegal immigration. not by the handful, but in their thousands and the protest were directly linked to alleged sex crimes committed by some in these migrant hotels. This current government has done nothing to prevent the increase in illegals coming here and whilst the Tories were not a lot better they had an idea with Rwanda. But opposition came from all angles and it literally never took off. Labour then abandoned Rwanda stating they would smash the gangs. Unless seriously helped by other European Countries it won't happen. Sadly for those protesting in a lawful manner both the left and the right have infiltrated and inflamed what were mild mannered protests. I'm not sure where the flag came in, but it is after all a symbol of this Country, just as the Star Spangled banner is in the US although we only seem to see the Union flag or flag of St. George when big football tournaments come around. Councils in certain areas have also inflamed the situation by allowing Palestine and other flags to fly, but then claim the British flag may fall and hurt someone ? Last night on Radio 5 they had an immigrant who was in a hotel and was saying he saw his family tortured and killed and that is why he is here. I personally have no problem with genuine asylum seekers. But if to be believed we are in a situation where the country is paying £110 billion in debt interest alone and again if the soothsayers are correct unless something drastic is done we will be going cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out and their terms will in no way allow this or maybe any government in the future to carry out what is needed in this country. Therefore the situation of unauthorised entry in the UK needs stopping now and not as Labour says by the time their current term finishes.
Two things that stand out in what you've said that really grate on me:
1) This normalisation of the "illegals" trope. It simply isn't true no matter how mainstream it now is, and I'm sick of it no longer being called out by journalists.
2) The Rwanda plan being a viable plan that was scrapped by the current government. It was never viable, it was illegal and unworkable. The then government were well aware of this yet pushed on with it anyway in order to look like they were doing something without having to. They may as well have had a plan to send people to the moon.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:10 - Sep 1 with 212 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:03 - Sep 1 by NedPlimpton
Sorry, but your last paragraph is an absolute mess
Conflating debt interest with "unauthorised entry" sounds very much like you're blaming the wrong people
The more that are allowed in will exacerbate the money problems this country has. It is estimated each illegal costs the UK £40,000 a year. Times that by the huge amount that Labour has let in and we are adding to the debt crisis. Why should tax payers keep paying more and more to stand still or go backwards and again if Rachel Reeves is in any way to balance the books large tax increases are on their way in Autumn.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:14 - Sep 1 with 177 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:53 - Sep 1 by OldFart71
I shall try to put some context on the protests/Flag flying. Obviously to anyone with a brain cell this started with regards to illegal immigration. not by the handful, but in their thousands and the protest were directly linked to alleged sex crimes committed by some in these migrant hotels. This current government has done nothing to prevent the increase in illegals coming here and whilst the Tories were not a lot better they had an idea with Rwanda. But opposition came from all angles and it literally never took off. Labour then abandoned Rwanda stating they would smash the gangs. Unless seriously helped by other European Countries it won't happen. Sadly for those protesting in a lawful manner both the left and the right have infiltrated and inflamed what were mild mannered protests. I'm not sure where the flag came in, but it is after all a symbol of this Country, just as the Star Spangled banner is in the US although we only seem to see the Union flag or flag of St. George when big football tournaments come around. Councils in certain areas have also inflamed the situation by allowing Palestine and other flags to fly, but then claim the British flag may fall and hurt someone ? Last night on Radio 5 they had an immigrant who was in a hotel and was saying he saw his family tortured and killed and that is why he is here. I personally have no problem with genuine asylum seekers. But if to be believed we are in a situation where the country is paying £110 billion in debt interest alone and again if the soothsayers are correct unless something drastic is done we will be going cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out and their terms will in no way allow this or maybe any government in the future to carry out what is needed in this country. Therefore the situation of unauthorised entry in the UK needs stopping now and not as Labour says by the time their current term finishes.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:41 - Sep 1 by positivity
would you say that "loving your country" is best expressed by fomenting unrest against large swathes of the country's citizens?
if they really loved their country, they'd be volunteering to improve it. maybe they could start by removing plastic chinese-made tat from our lamp-posts?
Spent my morning dog walk removing union jack stickers from lamp posts, signs, dog bins (of all places). I have no problem with a proudly displayed union flag or cross of St George hanging from appropriate buildings, but honestly what is it that screams "I love my country" about a sticker on a poo bin????
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:21 - Sep 1 with 116 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:57 - Sep 1 by BanksterDebtSlave
You know full well that the hanging of flags from motorway bridges (which you get off on)and such is part of the same campaign that is leading to outright xenophobia and racism and the daubing of flags on properties to intimidate. The campaign you promoted on here last night for the sake of bants and trying to own 'the woke'. I stand by my character assessment of you from last night. You're an absolute weapon.
I’d suggest you’re an astute judge of character, BDS.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 09:53 - Sep 1 by OldFart71
I shall try to put some context on the protests/Flag flying. Obviously to anyone with a brain cell this started with regards to illegal immigration. not by the handful, but in their thousands and the protest were directly linked to alleged sex crimes committed by some in these migrant hotels. This current government has done nothing to prevent the increase in illegals coming here and whilst the Tories were not a lot better they had an idea with Rwanda. But opposition came from all angles and it literally never took off. Labour then abandoned Rwanda stating they would smash the gangs. Unless seriously helped by other European Countries it won't happen. Sadly for those protesting in a lawful manner both the left and the right have infiltrated and inflamed what were mild mannered protests. I'm not sure where the flag came in, but it is after all a symbol of this Country, just as the Star Spangled banner is in the US although we only seem to see the Union flag or flag of St. George when big football tournaments come around. Councils in certain areas have also inflamed the situation by allowing Palestine and other flags to fly, but then claim the British flag may fall and hurt someone ? Last night on Radio 5 they had an immigrant who was in a hotel and was saying he saw his family tortured and killed and that is why he is here. I personally have no problem with genuine asylum seekers. But if to be believed we are in a situation where the country is paying £110 billion in debt interest alone and again if the soothsayers are correct unless something drastic is done we will be going cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out and their terms will in no way allow this or maybe any government in the future to carry out what is needed in this country. Therefore the situation of unauthorised entry in the UK needs stopping now and not as Labour says by the time their current term finishes.
The reality is we’re nowhere near being ‘overrun’, that’s just nonsense. The Rwanda plan was a headline gimmick that cost hundreds of millions without removing a single person. Most people arriving claim asylum lawfully, and many come from countries where we’d expect Brits to flee if the roles were reversed. We should deal with this sensibly and work with Europe, process claims faster, deport those who fail and support those who succeed, not stir up panic with flags and mostly nonsense rumours about ‘illegals’.
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