| Amorim for the sack? 18:00 - Sep 14 with 3603 views | itfc_bucks |
He's got to be close to the edge now, surely?! |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 18:05 - Sep 14 with 3575 views | muccletonjoe |
With the money that has been spent on absolute rubbish, I am surprised he is still there |  | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 18:08 - Sep 14 with 3536 views | FrimleyBlue |
I love that he took a fast cb off for a slow one when man city are starting to get the ball through. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 18:08 - Sep 14 with 3541 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted we don't get Rangers vs United this season.
They would probably both find a way to lose. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 18:11 - Sep 14 with 3491 views | TheBoyBlue |
But then what? How many successful managers have to come in to Old Trafford and fail before someone realises it isn't actually the manager that is the problem? | |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 18:25 - Sep 14 with 3380 views | itfc_bucks |
| Amorim for the sack? on 18:11 - Sep 14 by TheBoyBlue |
But then what? How many successful managers have to come in to Old Trafford and fail before someone realises it isn't actually the manager that is the problem? |
Possibly, but in this particular instance, I do think the manager is very much the pressing issue. | |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 18:35 - Sep 14 with 3266 views | skinnybob72 |
As the manager of a mid table (at best) side he should be happy escaping the Emptihad with only a 0-3 loss.
BTW, what the f&ck is a half empty home end at FT all about? It's a derby against your bitter rivals and the fans can't hang on to applaud their team? If we beat Nodge next month the place will be rocking at FT, nobody will have left before FT! | | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:07 - Sep 14 with 3004 views | bluelagos |
Not for me. He has a hell of a job to do, has been dealt a sh1t hand with a squad with a fair chunk of over paid prima donnas.
Stage one to weed out the discontented players - which he seems to have done. He now has to mould those there to a functioning team. As poor as they were today, they were a lot more competitive than in some recent seasons - I think they are progressing.
So can't see them getting rid until he's had at least 6 months with the current squad. Still struggling, can see him getting the boot in the spring - but not before. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 19:37 - Sep 14 with 2778 views | mrfixit426 |
| Amorim for the sack? on 18:35 - Sep 14 by skinnybob72 |
As the manager of a mid table (at best) side he should be happy escaping the Emptihad with only a 0-3 loss.
BTW, what the f&ck is a half empty home end at FT all about? It's a derby against your bitter rivals and the fans can't hang on to applaud their team? If we beat Nodge next month the place will be rocking at FT, nobody will have left before FT! |
Four in front of me will have. Guaranteed. 80 mins on Friday night. Shame it won't be the gobsh1tes behind. |  | | |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 19:49 - Sep 14 with 2670 views | MK1 |
I think so. His system just isn't working. He is insisting on playing it, so his fault. The squad is looking pretty good, but they can't continue with the 3 at the back, when none of the players seem to know what's expected of them.
Southgate would be a funny appointment. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 21:02 - Sep 14 with 2435 views | Denny32 |
It looks like man u have spent 200million just to stay in the Premiership..the way they are playing, looks like Jst to stay above relegation...you couldn't make it up | | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 21:08 - Sep 14 with 2395 views | Swansea_Blue |
He’s already trying to predict where the new manager will play the players
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| Amorim for the sack? on 12:44 - Sep 15 with 1356 views | stonojnr |
| Amorim for the sack? on 18:11 - Sep 14 by TheBoyBlue |
But then what? How many successful managers have to come in to Old Trafford and fail before someone realises it isn't actually the manager that is the problem? |
Exactly this, it would be dumb for them to go for another reset. It's just the usual media pick on a target as all the other managers look secure for now and spend all the time undermining them.
Doesn't help of course the Man utd allegiances of most of the media who enjoy being the centre of attention. | | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 13:01 - Sep 15 with 1303 views | Radlett_blue |
It would be even more hilarious is Man U compounded their error of giving the hapless Ten Hag an extension on the basis 1 good performance in beating City in the FA Cup Final by then sacking him & appointing Amorim in mid season by then sacking him & bringing in yet another "interim manager" with no chance of re-shaping the squad.
I also noted that our hopeless loanee Michael Clegg is their first team "strength & power" coach. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 13:59 - Sep 15 with 1167 views | mutters |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:07 - Sep 14 by bluelagos |
Not for me. He has a hell of a job to do, has been dealt a sh1t hand with a squad with a fair chunk of over paid prima donnas.
Stage one to weed out the discontented players - which he seems to have done. He now has to mould those there to a functioning team. As poor as they were today, they were a lot more competitive than in some recent seasons - I think they are progressing.
So can't see them getting rid until he's had at least 6 months with the current squad. Still struggling, can see him getting the boot in the spring - but not before. |
I am with you on this to a degree. He's not been there a year, he inherited some pretty shocking players who were overpaid and bought at inflated prices. For the first time in how many managers United actually paid for his release rather than going for an out of work manager. He should in theory get a couple of seasons to stamp his mark on the team and squad.
Having said all that, I will say that the powers that be at united probably thought that he would be have got more out of the players there. Finishing without Europe is a real wake up call for them, and pressure will soon mount.
Id imagine a mid table finish will be enough to see progress and allow him another season |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 14:03 - Sep 15 with 1142 views | rickw |
He has done shi%, but they've spent the summer buying players for his system, if he goes they'll have an unbalanced squad again |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 14:03 - Sep 15 with 1136 views | BloomBlue |
Only playing 2 in midfield always has relegation written all over it in the PL. He needs to change his formation |  | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 16:34 - Sep 15 with 883 views | MrBeckinsale |
I think Graham Potter will go first, before Amorim | | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 16:50 - Sep 15 with 824 views | OldFart71 |
The problem is expectation. The need for a club that sits at the top of the earnings league to uphold past success and a manager in Sir Alex that like Sir Bobby didn't start particularly well but grew into the job.
Today's managers are expected to have instant success even if the club they join isn't the biggest and cannot afford the huge wages and massive transfer fees of their bigger rivals.
Often the players that clubs like Utd sign find the pressure too much to perform to the level that they achieved from the clubs they came from.
Some need more time than appears to be available to them and they are moved on.
We saw this with a couple of City players in the form of Phillips and now Grealish. Multi million pound players. Fortunately from a City point of view they had enough quality to more than make up. | | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:14 - Sep 15 with 480 views | HighgateBlue |
I was just listening to Wayne Rooney on Man Utd's travails, and he's saying the problem is the 2 in midfield not having the legs to cover the width and run up and down. He's saying that unless you have 2 absolute generals in midfield, in the premier league you need 3 in there or you get overrun.
Really interesting comments in the wake of our (challenging) season in the Prem last year. He seems to be saying that in the Prem, you can't play the formation/system that we played (and play) unless you have top quality midfield players (which we of course didn't, it turns out, at least not in the context of that league). We saw ourselves get overrun and sliced through an awful lot.
Well, Matusiwa with Jens and/or Nunez are going to be just fine in this division, I reckon (although I do miss Morsy and think that whole thing was unfortunate and weird). But if we do make it back to the promised land, I wonder if our system will be as unbending as before... |  | | |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:18 - Sep 15 with 465 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:14 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue |
I was just listening to Wayne Rooney on Man Utd's travails, and he's saying the problem is the 2 in midfield not having the legs to cover the width and run up and down. He's saying that unless you have 2 absolute generals in midfield, in the premier league you need 3 in there or you get overrun.
Really interesting comments in the wake of our (challenging) season in the Prem last year. He seems to be saying that in the Prem, you can't play the formation/system that we played (and play) unless you have top quality midfield players (which we of course didn't, it turns out, at least not in the context of that league). We saw ourselves get overrun and sliced through an awful lot.
Well, Matusiwa with Jens and/or Nunez are going to be just fine in this division, I reckon (although I do miss Morsy and think that whole thing was unfortunate and weird). But if we do make it back to the promised land, I wonder if our system will be as unbending as before... |
We were ridiculously wide open. Plus add in Leif vacating the left back position (understandably) and no wonder teams passed through us like a dodgy vindaloo. | |
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| Amorim for the sack? on 19:50 - Sep 15 with 367 views | SE1blue |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:14 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue |
I was just listening to Wayne Rooney on Man Utd's travails, and he's saying the problem is the 2 in midfield not having the legs to cover the width and run up and down. He's saying that unless you have 2 absolute generals in midfield, in the premier league you need 3 in there or you get overrun.
Really interesting comments in the wake of our (challenging) season in the Prem last year. He seems to be saying that in the Prem, you can't play the formation/system that we played (and play) unless you have top quality midfield players (which we of course didn't, it turns out, at least not in the context of that league). We saw ourselves get overrun and sliced through an awful lot.
Well, Matusiwa with Jens and/or Nunez are going to be just fine in this division, I reckon (although I do miss Morsy and think that whole thing was unfortunate and weird). But if we do make it back to the promised land, I wonder if our system will be as unbending as before... |
Whilst he might be onto something here, I find it really hard to listen to managerial advice from Wayne Rooney.
He didn’t know what he was talking about at Derby, Plymouth, Brum, or even DC United. |  |
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| Amorim for the sack? (n/t) on 20:07 - Sep 15 with 275 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:14 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue |
I was just listening to Wayne Rooney on Man Utd's travails, and he's saying the problem is the 2 in midfield not having the legs to cover the width and run up and down. He's saying that unless you have 2 absolute generals in midfield, in the premier league you need 3 in there or you get overrun.
Really interesting comments in the wake of our (challenging) season in the Prem last year. He seems to be saying that in the Prem, you can't play the formation/system that we played (and play) unless you have top quality midfield players (which we of course didn't, it turns out, at least not in the context of that league). We saw ourselves get overrun and sliced through an awful lot.
Well, Matusiwa with Jens and/or Nunez are going to be just fine in this division, I reckon (although I do miss Morsy and think that whole thing was unfortunate and weird). But if we do make it back to the promised land, I wonder if our system will be as unbending as before... |
Loads of teams play 4231 in the prem which we did. Utd play 343 and Fernandes doesn’t offer any protection. [Post edited 15 Sep 20:09]
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| Amorim for the sack? on 20:11 - Sep 15 with 254 views | Smoresy |
| Amorim for the sack? on 19:14 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue |
I was just listening to Wayne Rooney on Man Utd's travails, and he's saying the problem is the 2 in midfield not having the legs to cover the width and run up and down. He's saying that unless you have 2 absolute generals in midfield, in the premier league you need 3 in there or you get overrun.
Really interesting comments in the wake of our (challenging) season in the Prem last year. He seems to be saying that in the Prem, you can't play the formation/system that we played (and play) unless you have top quality midfield players (which we of course didn't, it turns out, at least not in the context of that league). We saw ourselves get overrun and sliced through an awful lot.
Well, Matusiwa with Jens and/or Nunez are going to be just fine in this division, I reckon (although I do miss Morsy and think that whole thing was unfortunate and weird). But if we do make it back to the promised land, I wonder if our system will be as unbending as before... |
4-2-3-1 has been the preferred formation of recent times in the PL and by a great margin. Agree we had one of the worst midfields of course.
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