| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? 21:53 - Oct 21 with 2595 views | Mullet |
We've dropped to 13th from 12th tonight. Over the last six games we are 6th in the form table and so is our home form. Our away form is 23rd.
We've gone from a manager who got career bests out of League One/Championship players not seen here since Mick McCarthy but the context being very different. We were a club on the up not one trying not to drown.
Now he's working with internationals, wunderkind, Prem-hardened players etc. and all through choice largely. It wasn't that long ago we were paying whatever he wanted to stay and fend off Palace and Brighton.
We knew we were getting relegated pretty early on, but somehow the preparations haven't gone right have they? You'll never get all your signings, you'll always have things like your keeper getting injured, but inbetween the last promotion and now I wonder whether any manager has had a more volatile stock and standing?
It'll be really interesting how he approaches WBA now, how he motivates that group because we don't seem to have forged a team this time around. We are very much individuals not units, and the talent alone might get us through the thirds but when we need to dig in it's not there is it?
While the ownership aren't reactionary, they are ruthless. I hope we lose McKenna this summer because the big boys want him, not because we've squandered the easiest chance to go up we'll ever have. |  |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 21:57 - Oct 21 with 2177 views | ernie |
Is there any actual point you are trying to make here…because this reads like a random stream of consciousness… |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 21:57 - Oct 21 with 2179 views | BseaBlue |
We have ripped up the squad that took us to the promised land and replaced them with expensive upgrades. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that is working at the moment.
For me, we are lacking bite and leadership. If there is a chance to get Morsy back in Jan, I'd get him in the building now, give him the captaincy and let him add some spine to us!
The two main issues I have is that when parachute payment teams come down, they usually have a player of real quality up front and at centre back. We dont look like we have either at present.
Losing Burgess, Broadhead and Chaplin really looks like poor business at the minute. |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 21:59 - Oct 21 with 2110 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 21:57 - Oct 21 by ernie |
Is there any actual point you are trying to make here…because this reads like a random stream of consciousness… |
I think he’s questioning whether you’re really the fastest milkman in the west. I wouldn’t stand for it if I was you. |  |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:00 - Oct 21 with 2069 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
I wonder if McKenna privately regrets not taking the Brighton job when it was on the table. It would have been the easier career path for him, that's for sure | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:03 - Oct 21 with 1976 views | TractorJack |
The summer rocked us, he's admitted as such even though he said it's calmed down since the window closed. Clearly recruitment was a struggle and so far none of the new signings have slotted in and are performing straight away bar probably Azor. |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:05 - Oct 21 with 1916 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:03 - Oct 21 by TractorJack |
The summer rocked us, he's admitted as such even though he said it's calmed down since the window closed. Clearly recruitment was a struggle and so far none of the new signings have slotted in and are performing straight away bar probably Azor. |
Nor are some recruited pre premier league |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:06 - Oct 21 with 1904 views | jas0999 |
It’s not been good enough. Can’t buy a win away. Losing 3-0 at home to a newly promoted side after the investment KM has been given. I’d be surprised if they aren’t at the very least drawing up a shortlist. KM can’t live on past success, last year was poor - none straight home loses but at a much higher level. This year - no excuses and after ten games it’s not good enough. | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:08 - Oct 21 with 1867 views | Moriarty |
It’s nadir night. He might feel like the party’s over but now’s the time. Now is the test. He’s decent to the core. Good stock. I got that on good authority a good while ago.
Patience is important. A value we as a club have a good relationship with historically. But social media, modernity and all that are not good bedfellows of patience and forbearance.
I hope he stays. Mid table perhaps this season, maybe a playoff push. Next season might be our time again. Sometimes it just rolls like that. |  |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:12 - Oct 21 with 1793 views | badadski |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:05 - Oct 21 by reusersfreekicks |
Nor are some recruited pre premier league |
Problem at the moment as I see it - it’s easy to support the team but hard to support the players. We have stripped down and cohesive, passionate, never say die crew with a bunch of expensive replacements. I can’t say better replacements as in all honesty they are not. Man for man we are worse than when we were promoted.
The players may have cost millions and star man for the team they played for prior to joining Ipswich but now are not. None of the players seem to be able to play on the front foot - it’s like England of old just tippy tapping until the final third then giving it away or smashing a cross to no one. The good thing is it’s not so upsetting as we have spent all that money and have been beaten by supposedly far inferior players but you know what , at least there was some drive, passion, fighting to get in the way to block.
Nothing from us at all, problems are brewing and they will be big. | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 with 1732 views | darkhorse28 |
Who on earth will want McKenna?
Paid champions league wages to deliver the worst season in our history and spend £200 million doing it - even if he works the oracle this season, and he won’t, who would touch that?
You wouldn’t need to .., spend less money and there’s hundreds of actual world class managers proven at that level, out of work.
There are ones that have won European trophies that would cost less…, do you think owners are as ego fuelled and emotionally invested as some of our fans??
They aren’t…, he’s finished at that level, unless he gets a team promoted, and if he can’t do it with three times the budget of anyone else, that not likely either .
If tonight hasn’t woken you up.., nothing will!! | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 with 1735 views | Mullet |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:08 - Oct 21 by Moriarty |
It’s nadir night. He might feel like the party’s over but now’s the time. Now is the test. He’s decent to the core. Good stock. I got that on good authority a good while ago.
Patience is important. A value we as a club have a good relationship with historically. But social media, modernity and all that are not good bedfellows of patience and forbearance.
I hope he stays. Mid table perhaps this season, maybe a playoff push. Next season might be our time again. Sometimes it just rolls like that. |
There's no way these owners keep him on in that scenario. Not when they've given him everything and he's so far off the good he's done here.
If he doesn't take us up they'll get someone else in I'd have thought. | |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 1705 views | Mullet |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 by darkhorse28 |
Who on earth will want McKenna?
Paid champions league wages to deliver the worst season in our history and spend £200 million doing it - even if he works the oracle this season, and he won’t, who would touch that?
You wouldn’t need to .., spend less money and there’s hundreds of actual world class managers proven at that level, out of work.
There are ones that have won European trophies that would cost less…, do you think owners are as ego fuelled and emotionally invested as some of our fans??
They aren’t…, he’s finished at that level, unless he gets a team promoted, and if he can’t do it with three times the budget of anyone else, that not likely either .
If tonight hasn’t woken you up.., nothing will!! |
Shut up. You are to this forum, what Andrew is to the Windsor PR machine. | |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:20 - Oct 21 with 1660 views | NedPlimpton |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 by darkhorse28 |
Who on earth will want McKenna?
Paid champions league wages to deliver the worst season in our history and spend £200 million doing it - even if he works the oracle this season, and he won’t, who would touch that?
You wouldn’t need to .., spend less money and there’s hundreds of actual world class managers proven at that level, out of work.
There are ones that have won European trophies that would cost less…, do you think owners are as ego fuelled and emotionally invested as some of our fans??
They aren’t…, he’s finished at that level, unless he gets a team promoted, and if he can’t do it with three times the budget of anyone else, that not likely either .
If tonight hasn’t woken you up.., nothing will!! |
Stop saying it was the worst season in our history, it's not even the worst season in the last 10 years! |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:21 - Oct 21 with 1650 views | Bluecasp |
The question is, if Mckenna had left before the start of last season would we be any worse off right now? | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:24 - Oct 21 with 1598 views | HighgateBlue |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:00 - Oct 21 by SWLondonBlue93 |
I wonder if McKenna privately regrets not taking the Brighton job when it was on the table. It would have been the easier career path for him, that's for sure |
Maybe so.
But there aren't many Brighton fans who regret that he didn't take the Brighton job. |  | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:36 - Oct 21 with 1461 views | Moriarty |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 by Mullet |
There's no way these owners keep him on in that scenario. Not when they've given him everything and he's so far off the good he's done here.
If he doesn't take us up they'll get someone else in I'd have thought. |
Certainly very possible. But look at Forest and the Aussie. If, for example, we miss the playoffs and McKenna is axed, who next? What next indeed?
On paper we have plenty of internationals but some of those are boys in green. Which given our international status, isn’t saying much. The only RofI player I’d really like to see here is Jake O’Brien or Kelleher (neither will happen). O’Brien at right back under McKenna would be a thing of beauty. But there we are.
You know the story about the old bull and the young bull? “Quick” said the young bull. “There’s a field of cows down there and I’m gonna race down and ride one”. And so he did. The old bull walked down. And rode the lot of them. Let’s hope our owners are old bulls. | |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:53 - Oct 21 with 1370 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:24 - Oct 21 by HighgateBlue |
Maybe so.
But there aren't many Brighton fans who regret that he didn't take the Brighton job. |
Can't disagree with that | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:58 - Oct 21 with 1331 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Very differently.
Especially with the fees we have chucked around. |  |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:06 - Oct 21 with 1262 views | cbower |
It's the individuals not being a team, as you say, a unit.
The promotion side was built on partnerships all over the pitch. Chaplin & Burns / Chaplin & Hirst / Morsy & Luongo / Burgess & Woolfenden / Davis & Broadhead and with Hutchinson as the sprinkle of stardust.
There are no effective partnerships in this squad. Not even Davis and Philogene come close. O'Shea and Greaves are a shambles. I know you don't agree but Cajuste in a two is a disaster in my opinion. Our so called No 10s don't link with anyone. No combination on the right side functions at all.
Who is to blame? Who has led this recruitment? Who is failing to develop effective patterns of play? Who is unable to change the flow of the game when we go behind? Who appears wedded to one style and is being tactically naive at times? If you were that way inclined, McKenna could be your answer to each of the above. For me, he has credit in the bank still but his pot is diminishing.
I suggested a formation change after Friday. In my opinion we don’t have the players for two in midfield and I stick by that. On Blue Monday Joe Fairs said we may have to stumble on a line up and a formation. If that's the case, I hope it's soon for as you say, it looks like we might just $punk the best chance to get back up we'll have for some time. |  |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:08 - Oct 21 with 1220 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:06 - Oct 21 by cbower |
It's the individuals not being a team, as you say, a unit.
The promotion side was built on partnerships all over the pitch. Chaplin & Burns / Chaplin & Hirst / Morsy & Luongo / Burgess & Woolfenden / Davis & Broadhead and with Hutchinson as the sprinkle of stardust.
There are no effective partnerships in this squad. Not even Davis and Philogene come close. O'Shea and Greaves are a shambles. I know you don't agree but Cajuste in a two is a disaster in my opinion. Our so called No 10s don't link with anyone. No combination on the right side functions at all.
Who is to blame? Who has led this recruitment? Who is failing to develop effective patterns of play? Who is unable to change the flow of the game when we go behind? Who appears wedded to one style and is being tactically naive at times? If you were that way inclined, McKenna could be your answer to each of the above. For me, he has credit in the bank still but his pot is diminishing.
I suggested a formation change after Friday. In my opinion we don’t have the players for two in midfield and I stick by that. On Blue Monday Joe Fairs said we may have to stumble on a line up and a formation. If that's the case, I hope it's soon for as you say, it looks like we might just $punk the best chance to get back up we'll have for some time. |
Good post! | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:16 - Oct 21 with 1150 views | Blue_Heath |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 21:57 - Oct 21 by BseaBlue |
We have ripped up the squad that took us to the promised land and replaced them with expensive upgrades. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that is working at the moment.
For me, we are lacking bite and leadership. If there is a chance to get Morsy back in Jan, I'd get him in the building now, give him the captaincy and let him add some spine to us!
The two main issues I have is that when parachute payment teams come down, they usually have a player of real quality up front and at centre back. We dont look like we have either at present.
Losing Burgess, Broadhead and Chaplin really looks like poor business at the minute. |
Except the upgrades for the most part are downgrades. | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:16 - Oct 21 with 1150 views | bluepope |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:00 - Oct 21 by SWLondonBlue93 |
I wonder if McKenna privately regrets not taking the Brighton job when it was on the table. It would have been the easier career path for him, that's for sure |
What ? He’d have been sacked by now! | | | |
| 3-1. (n/t) on 23:18 - Oct 21 with 1126 views | Bloots |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:16 - Oct 21 by darkhorse28 |
Who on earth will want McKenna?
Paid champions league wages to deliver the worst season in our history and spend £200 million doing it - even if he works the oracle this season, and he won’t, who would touch that?
You wouldn’t need to .., spend less money and there’s hundreds of actual world class managers proven at that level, out of work.
There are ones that have won European trophies that would cost less…, do you think owners are as ego fuelled and emotionally invested as some of our fans??
They aren’t…, he’s finished at that level, unless he gets a team promoted, and if he can’t do it with three times the budget of anyone else, that not likely either .
If tonight hasn’t woken you up.., nothing will!! |
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| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:18 - Oct 21 with 1125 views | Simonds92 |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 23:06 - Oct 21 by cbower |
It's the individuals not being a team, as you say, a unit.
The promotion side was built on partnerships all over the pitch. Chaplin & Burns / Chaplin & Hirst / Morsy & Luongo / Burgess & Woolfenden / Davis & Broadhead and with Hutchinson as the sprinkle of stardust.
There are no effective partnerships in this squad. Not even Davis and Philogene come close. O'Shea and Greaves are a shambles. I know you don't agree but Cajuste in a two is a disaster in my opinion. Our so called No 10s don't link with anyone. No combination on the right side functions at all.
Who is to blame? Who has led this recruitment? Who is failing to develop effective patterns of play? Who is unable to change the flow of the game when we go behind? Who appears wedded to one style and is being tactically naive at times? If you were that way inclined, McKenna could be your answer to each of the above. For me, he has credit in the bank still but his pot is diminishing.
I suggested a formation change after Friday. In my opinion we don’t have the players for two in midfield and I stick by that. On Blue Monday Joe Fairs said we may have to stumble on a line up and a formation. If that's the case, I hope it's soon for as you say, it looks like we might just $punk the best chance to get back up we'll have for some time. |
This is spot on.
Unfortunately, we were unwilling to play a 3 in midfield against some of the best teams on the planet last season, so it's unlikely we'll see that, but with the 3 main midfielders we have at the club,with completely different skill sets, it's certainly worth giving it a go imo. | | | |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 08:07 - Oct 22 with 779 views | Mullet |
| I wonder how those outside the ITFC bubble are viewing McKenna now? on 22:21 - Oct 21 by Bluecasp |
The question is, if Mckenna had left before the start of last season would we be any worse off right now? |
Impossible to know. We’d have recruited differently you assume on and off the field. I’m not sure we are at a McKenna out point for anyone credible, but there’s an issue with this being a benchmark now isn’t there?
This is his first bit of adversity you might argue, the prem didn’t really count for most as we had very little chance. | |
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