| Omari 15:57 - Oct 26 with 4917 views | BlueNomad |
Came on at half time. Hardly did anything. The end.
(Sorry, I have no sympathy for him due to the way he behaved before he left) |  | | |  |
| Omari on 19:42 - Oct 26 with 1003 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Omari on 17:37 - Oct 26 by FrimleyBlue |
About the right side..
He doesn't have the footwork of omari. But egeli is showing the development potential omari showed in his first few appearences for us..
Completely different types of players of course. But there potential with egeli is massive. |
Bring back (hopefully soon) the magical right-hand side - Burns, with H.Clarke behind him. |  |
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| Omari on 19:44 - Oct 26 with 996 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Omari on 19:39 - Oct 26 by MrPotatoHead |
I’m yet to sit it but I really hope you’re right. He’s a big lad physically but I don’t think he’s shown anywhere near the level of ‘natural footballer’ Omari did. As you say they’re different players but I’m a little bit concerned at the close to £40m we’ve spent on him, McAteer & Ogbene. Really hope this ages terribly but it’s a bit of a concern. |
I think with egli it won't be as a wide player where he will make his name. This reminds me of Henry being wide and then becoming the force that he was as a striker.
Imo egeli will be seen as a Kane type forward.
The question really is how long until we see him central for town. I don't personally think right hand side is the best position for him long term. |  |
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| Omari on 19:46 - Oct 26 with 983 views | ronnyd |
Nice little 'back heel' when he was surrounded by three Cherries players to set up Gibbs-White. Who then blazed it into the stand. |  | | |
| Omari on 19:54 - Oct 26 with 960 views | HighgateBlue |
| Omari on 16:14 - Oct 26 by homer_123 |
Interesting.
I mean....no young person has ever made the wrong decision or acted inappropriately ever. |
Something can be notable without it being unprecedented. |  | | |
| Omari on 20:00 - Oct 26 with 939 views | Perublue |
| Omari on 18:26 - Oct 26 by Swansea_Blue |
So we just need to avoid any connection with the word forest? Wood that help? |
Talking of Wood .. I wonder if he’ll get called up to the England squad now … I guess his great chance was last season if any ? |  |
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| Omari on 20:02 - Oct 26 with 937 views | theinbetweener |
| Omari on 16:14 - Oct 26 by StokieBlue |
Just seems rather vindictive to frequently have threads that make digs at a young player who was clearly poorly advised and is now paying the penalty for that poor advice.
I'll leave you all to it.
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It’s a football forum, to discuss all things football. If you don’t like it, ignore and move on, it really isn’t difficult. |  | | |
| Omari on 20:49 - Oct 26 with 883 views | bartyg |
| Omari on 16:06 - Oct 26 by Denny32 |
Well if you don't want to contribute , then don't..no law saying people can't talk about ex players |
True, it's just all a bit bitter ex isn't it? |  | | |
| Omari on 21:19 - Oct 26 with 825 views | MattinLondon |
Young lad wanted to stay in the PL…shock. So far it hasn’t worked out and being honest, I don’t particularly have that much sympathy for him.
But let’s be honest - if he had a shocking season and wanted to prove himself for one more season, most of the fans would want him out.
Football fans get all hot under the collar for lack of loyalty shown by players but we as fans don’t show that much loyalty to players. |  | | |
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| Omari on 21:28 - Oct 26 with 810 views | gtsb1966 |
| Omari on 21:19 - Oct 26 by MattinLondon |
Young lad wanted to stay in the PL…shock. So far it hasn’t worked out and being honest, I don’t particularly have that much sympathy for him.
But let’s be honest - if he had a shocking season and wanted to prove himself for one more season, most of the fans would want him out.
Football fans get all hot under the collar for lack of loyalty shown by players but we as fans don’t show that much loyalty to players. |
It has got nothing to do with loyalty, it's the way he treated the club and that includes us as fans. He would've got his move without refusing to play for the club that put him in the shop window in the first place. |  | | |
| Omari on 21:45 - Oct 26 with 775 views | bournemouthblue |
| Omari on 20:00 - Oct 26 by Perublue |
Talking of Wood .. I wonder if he’ll get called up to the England squad now … I guess his great chance was last season if any ? |
Chris Wood from New Zealand? |  |
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| Omari on 21:53 - Oct 26 with 749 views | Blueschev |
As with a lot of what is said about our current squad, it’s still very early in the season and it often takes young players time to adjust to new surroundings. Why don’t people reserve judgement until much later in the season? |  | | |
| Omari on 21:58 - Oct 26 with 737 views | football |
| Omari on 16:14 - Oct 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Dead right. At this point in time these posts are a bit well, pointless.
Likewise posts about Sunderland's points tally, Burgess, Wolfenden and Broadhead et al.
However, If I was Omari, I'd be pretty angry with the advice he clearly received from Nojan Bedroud particularly around how to force a move. Sadly, It's backfired on him spectacularly, he could have stayed, done his thing in the Championship and then got his move in January.
Had he done so, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind he would be going to a higher profile club than Forest, and likely going with the support here still in love with him. |
But he isnt that young is he. I have an oldest who ia younger than him making life choices and doing them better | | | |
| Omari on 22:32 - Oct 26 with 673 views | GlasgowBlue |
Speaking of ex Town players, following on from being at the Derby a couple of weeks ago Liam Delap was ringside to cheer on Fabio.
Seems to have a retained great affinity for the club. [Post edited 26 Oct 22:34]
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| Omari on 23:07 - Oct 26 with 631 views | Smoresy |
He's involved in Forest's only positive clip to make the MOTD highlights, even if not a ringing endorsement aha.
I really don't think it's clear he's made a bad move fwiw. I was firmly of the view that he was closest to PL standard of our non-Delap players last season, but also not good enough to be a starter for a decent PL team. Without the U21 tournament I'm unconvinced we'd have received an acceptable bid.
He's moved for excellent money and a lengthy contract. Had he stayed and excelled here for another 6 months, that would best-case have set him up for a similar challenge to what he faces now: breaking into a PL starting XI. He may have avoided the chaos at Forest but he also may have found himself stuck here for at least another season, or at another relegation-threatened PL club. And with chaos, poor form, multiple managers etc. comes more opportunities to grab a break. Now if Forest are relegated then that would be painful, but there's a long way to go and some very talented players to lean on to avoid this ignominy.
Moreover, slow introductions are quite normal for youngish players entering the PL. It's a big step up. Semenyo, Summerville, Scott, three good examples off the top of the head of players who received very light minutes at first but graduated to regulars. Dewsbury-Hall's a good example of a player who overshot with his first move and is presumably very happy he left Leicester in retrospect.
If Omari's overshot with his move to Forest then there's little buffer on the retreat south before he reaches the yo-yo clubs. If that's a more appropriate level for him then the Forest contract will be the zenith of his career. If he just needs more time to develop then that's likely better achieved in PL training now, à la Semenyo, rather than playing more football at a much lower standard than he must become comfortable with to succeed. | | | |
| Omari on 23:37 - Oct 26 with 595 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Omari on 23:07 - Oct 26 by Smoresy |
He's involved in Forest's only positive clip to make the MOTD highlights, even if not a ringing endorsement aha.
I really don't think it's clear he's made a bad move fwiw. I was firmly of the view that he was closest to PL standard of our non-Delap players last season, but also not good enough to be a starter for a decent PL team. Without the U21 tournament I'm unconvinced we'd have received an acceptable bid.
He's moved for excellent money and a lengthy contract. Had he stayed and excelled here for another 6 months, that would best-case have set him up for a similar challenge to what he faces now: breaking into a PL starting XI. He may have avoided the chaos at Forest but he also may have found himself stuck here for at least another season, or at another relegation-threatened PL club. And with chaos, poor form, multiple managers etc. comes more opportunities to grab a break. Now if Forest are relegated then that would be painful, but there's a long way to go and some very talented players to lean on to avoid this ignominy.
Moreover, slow introductions are quite normal for youngish players entering the PL. It's a big step up. Semenyo, Summerville, Scott, three good examples off the top of the head of players who received very light minutes at first but graduated to regulars. Dewsbury-Hall's a good example of a player who overshot with his first move and is presumably very happy he left Leicester in retrospect.
If Omari's overshot with his move to Forest then there's little buffer on the retreat south before he reaches the yo-yo clubs. If that's a more appropriate level for him then the Forest contract will be the zenith of his career. If he just needs more time to develop then that's likely better achieved in PL training now, à la Semenyo, rather than playing more football at a much lower standard than he must become comfortable with to succeed. |
Much of what you say makes perfect sense.
For me, Omari’s problem is this. He really needs Forest to give him good minutes and a run in the side. Once that happens, I think he would flourish. Or at the very least more minutes than he has been getting. Nuno didn’t want him, Omari was bought by the owner who wanted a more free flowing attacking style of football than the pragmatic counter attacking football offered by Nuno.
Enter Ange, stage left with his attacking style. Omari by now is significantly lacking sharpness, unfortunately the rest of the squad have been bought for pragmatic, counterattacking football.
37 days later Ange departs.
In comes Shaun Dych, known for pragmatic counterattacking football and suddenly Omari is the spare prick at a wedding again.
Truth be told, I can see Omari ending up at Sunderland or Leeds if they stay up, if not someone like Wet Sham or Everton. It’ll be a tough season for him this year, hopefully to start again next year. |  |
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| Omari on 23:58 - Oct 26 with 570 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Omari on 22:32 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Speaking of ex Town players, following on from being at the Derby a couple of weeks ago Liam Delap was ringside to cheer on Fabio.
Seems to have a retained great affinity for the club. [Post edited 26 Oct 22:34]
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Regained? Do we know if he ever lost the love of our club? Or even had much love for us in the first place? |  | | |
| Omari on 12:35 - Oct 27 with 373 views | Len_Brennan |
I see Kundai Benyu is now playing (a bit) in the Zimbabwean league, after knocking around in Iceland & in non-league football for a few years, and is still only 27.
Obviously Omari is streets ahead of him as a footballer, but his story is still a good cautionary tale for young players, with an agent in their ear, pushing for a move when it is not in their best interests longterm.
Omari will be fine, and I wish him well, but he'll have to reignite his career somewhat now, whereas he would have been tearing it up for us on the right side, had he stayed. | | | |
| Omari on 13:08 - Oct 27 with 331 views | WestSussexBlue |
Good grief, have we still got negative thoughts towards Omari. | | | |
| Omari on 13:45 - Oct 27 with 293 views | darkhorse28 |
He was outstanding in the cup the other week, superb.
They have a lot of options.., all over them better than ours, so maybe that’s why you’re obsessed with other clubs.
I’d worry about why we’ve been poor for 50 games now, it might help you understand why he didn’t see this as progressive. | | | |
| Omari on 13:48 - Oct 27 with 285 views | football |
| Omari on 16:01 - Oct 26 by StokieBlue |
Not sure there is any continual need for these threads.
People have made their views clear, revelling in the subsequent position of a young player isn't a great look in my view.
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He’s not that young though is he. People younger than him move further for jobs, uni etc. | | | |
| Omari on 13:52 - Oct 27 with 265 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Omari on 23:58 - Oct 26 by Cafe_Newman |
Regained? Do we know if he ever lost the love of our club? Or even had much love for us in the first place? |
A lot of our fans came up with this nonsense that he didn't care and checked out in January as opposed to him just being part of a team that got progressively worse. Same fans who said "Hirst was much better for the system" |  |
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| Omari on 13:57 - Oct 27 with 228 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Omari on 19:39 - Oct 26 by MrPotatoHead |
I’m yet to sit it but I really hope you’re right. He’s a big lad physically but I don’t think he’s shown anywhere near the level of ‘natural footballer’ Omari did. As you say they’re different players but I’m a little bit concerned at the close to £40m we’ve spent on him, McAteer & Ogbene. Really hope this ages terribly but it’s a bit of a concern. |
The Mcateer fee was ridiculous when it was announced and even more ridiculous after watching him play.
Ogbene was ok because he was a perfect fit for that role and in that transfer window it was actually only a small ish fee.
Egeli certainly has potential but the fee is absolutely massive at this level. He has shown some nice touches so far but I really do miss the pace and 1v1 skill of Omari. We just don't have that in our team now. Hopefully Egeli can keep improving, as others have mentioned he doesn't look like a winger to me. | |
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| Omari on 14:05 - Oct 27 with 208 views | Ralphinho |
I'd have him back on loan in a heartbeat, despite the poor way he chose to go about forcing the move, but only if he ditched his agent...
Jaden, Omari, and Sindre (when up to speed) would be a force to be reckoned with.
Total nonsense speculation that will never happen, but its not harming anyone... | |
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| Omari on 15:08 - Oct 27 with 157 views | baxterbasics |
| Omari on 14:05 - Oct 27 by Ralphinho |
I'd have him back on loan in a heartbeat, despite the poor way he chose to go about forcing the move, but only if he ditched his agent...
Jaden, Omari, and Sindre (when up to speed) would be a force to be reckoned with.
Total nonsense speculation that will never happen, but its not harming anyone... |
It's not beyond the realms of plausibility that we could see him back in January, is it?
If so I hope the "no sympathy" mob can at least stay quiet.
Of course who's to say for sure that Omari regrets his move? If money was the main motivator, he's still getting paid and handsomely I would think. 50 big ones in your bank account every single week probably takes the sting out of all that bench sitting. |  |
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| Omari on 16:06 - Oct 27 with 88 views | ronnyd |
| Omari on 15:08 - Oct 27 by baxterbasics |
It's not beyond the realms of plausibility that we could see him back in January, is it?
If so I hope the "no sympathy" mob can at least stay quiet.
Of course who's to say for sure that Omari regrets his move? If money was the main motivator, he's still getting paid and handsomely I would think. 50 big ones in your bank account every single week probably takes the sting out of all that bench sitting. |
He can buy a lot of cushions with that. | | | |
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